I thought people would do this anyway, at a time with lots of vacancies it should be normal to find a stop gap
Those that CAN do take stop gap jobs but it's a huge risk.
Not least because stopping and starting...or even just "adjusting" benefits takes weeks sometimes months!
It's SUPPOSED to all happen smoothly it never does!
back payments mean nothing when the landlord is banging at the door
Exactly
That was in the days before you were sanctioned for leaving a job
This has NEVER been true since the inception of the welfare state! It's always been the case that you wouldn't get anything for a set period if you were sacked for cause or left "voluntarily" I put in quote marks as the definition of voluntarily has changed over time. At points "voluntarily" has also included if you left because the bus route you used to get to work vanished, or your childcare was no longer available or your boss was a shitty bully!
If I’m being honest I don’t see any reason for somebody on UC to turn down a job they are capable of doing. I mean, why wouldn’t they take it? Unless I’m missing something?
Again the problem is with the definition of "capable of doing"
I've had work coaches tell me a 2.5 hour commute both ways is acceptable even when this was a route/setup that would likely mean my often being late/unable to get home, jobs where the hours meant working outside available childcare hours "can't your mum have her" er...well considering she's almost 300 miles away no! Jobs where I'd need to be on my feet all day despite the disability, jobs I didn't have the basic qualifications or experience for...
It's bullshit!
It’s only ever a small number who stay on benefits longer than this
But this info doesn't make the news cycle does it?
And you're right also a pita and money wasting for employers too. As op says stupid!
Parsley1234 this govt is incompetent and corrupt in SO many ways!
Plus if you have family and get low wage job you still be getting UC top up pay your rent and bills. But no outrage there about “draining the system”. Companies don’t pay a living wage and society is fine with that. Only one benefit claimed is seen as bad the other is fine as working
Exactly! And that goes back to the most recent tax credit system which was never about helping working people but indirectly subsidising businesses! And very often businesses that didn't NEED subsidies!
A true living wage as the nmw needs to be introduced - and not only for this reason. It would also stimulate the economy because as loads of research shows the people on lower incomes when they have free money spend it! They don't hoard it like the rich do!
The statutory working conditions are abysmal in this country.
And in the last 10 years have been getting worse and worse
The way employees are being treated and the lack of rights at the moment is shameful!
Not just on the govt on employers too because even if good treatment of employees isn't in legislation there's nothing stopping employers being good employers by choice!
Indeed it's very short sighted not to be as again many studies show this benefits business too. A happy, well treated workforce is always more productive and more loyal.
KurtWilde well said
ScottishNames thank you
Because all this affects women and mothers more than any other sector of the community.
Absolutely
LakieLady I've long since given up trying to get through to someone with half a brain myself I use my local welfare rights office but you're right even they're having trouble getting resolutions now! I've a situation ongoing since about 3 months ago. We've chased and chased and chased and still no resolution at this point.
I agree. A job is a job. No it might not be your ideal job but it's still paying the bills!
You can't even be bothered to read a thread properly yet you're calling others lazy?
Lazy feckless work shy themselves
Yep
KingstonMumOf1 I take it your post also means you weren't told about help with childcare or any other help you may have been eligible for
This is another issue I've learned since and when I first claimed almost 20 years ago.
Unless you ALREADY KNOW what you are eligible for and know to request the means to apply for it they won't tell you!
When I first went in to get the forms (still paper applications at this point) I was lied to and they refused to give me the forms.
The lie?
They said I wasn't eligible to even attempt a claim because my soon to be ex was in the army! I was told ex forces dependents weren't eligible for benefits at all
TOTAL BULLSHIT and I knew it was but this woman plain refused to give me the forms!
I walked away that day but returned the next and got the forms from a different person.
But even then just literally gave me the form, no advice, no guidance at all and this also meant that I didn't know about another form I needed to have and complete.
This was when I had just split from ex and was claiming as a single mother but I was job hunting too.
Several years later when I was claiming as a disabled person that was a whole other level of obstruction!
Those who've never claimed or worked in the system haven't a bloody clue just how appalling it is!
LolaMento if we didn't have a welfare system at all crime would be rife and people would be dying in the streets even more than now
We're also not rushing into having kids. Indeed mostly and problematically the opposite! British women are often leaving it too late to conceive and then needing help with conception and pregnancy and this can also lead to birthing children who aren't totally healthy - this also costs the state money!
XenoBitch I'm on legacy benefits for now I'm dreading being moved onto UC
ShirleyBadass many of those things you mentioned aren't available everywhere. I live in one of the most deprived areas in the country, our "high street" is on futile life support, our college has been amputated to the point it is now just a torso, employers aren't interested in apprenticeships etc
I hold 2 degrees I can write a bloody CV and even the so called experts have said there's nothing more they can advise me there.
My whole life if I made it to interview stage I was always offered the job. No problem with interviews.
What's screwed me are the things I cannot change! Mainly being disabled!
They are not imbeciles they are parasites
They're both! They're imbecilic when it comes to understanding how it is to BE poor
John Bishop once appeared on last leg just after a corporate gig which David Cameron had also attended. This was while Cameron was PM. Bishop said that from talking to him it became clear that he simply hadn't the first clue how life was for ordinary people.
That he was the type of man who'd never wanted for anything his whole life, didn't know what it was like to job hunt, have to look for a home, have to BUDGET! He wouldn't have known how much a loaf of bread or pint of milk was he certainly wouldn't have known what it was like to have to choose between the 2 as you had only enough money for one!
WHY ordinary people vote for these people I will never understand!
They not only aren't you they have no idea whatsoever what your life is like or what you need from them!
MumOfSend exactly - they want the moon on a stick employee wise yet won't pay/provide the conditions for said employee
BeachBreak2411 another who hasn't bothered to properly read the thread
Invariably said by someone who has never claimed UC or worked in hospitality in their life. yep!
If the government wants people in work, they need to put in place simple and easy infection control mitigations. (Masks, vaccine passes, good ventilation). Or else there will be an ever growing number of newly disabled Long Covid sufferers.
Also very true