To be really enjoying Boris Johnson's downfall Part 3 Cake ambush

[Notonthestairs]

To be really enjoying Boris Johnson's downfall Part 2 http://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/amiibeingunreasonable/4459992-To-be-really-enjoying-Boris-Johnsons-downfall-Part-2

And on it goes.

@Notonthestairs

I think the idea of some is to move Johnson out before the next election - fresh face, clean hands etc - and let Johnson take the flak for the cost of living etc. Whatever Johnson says I doubt he'll be in situ for the next election.

Yes but surely they want to switch in time for the new person to be better known? They will want the recognition advantage of being in power surely?

We have Nick Coyle, the Labour MP, to thank for referring partygate to the Met and thus probably obfuscating matters.

Oh yes how dare he tell the police of suspected crimes?

@ItsSnowJokes

Its all another cover up. Civil service can say the police told us we can't publish in full, the police will then "investigate" fine a few lower grades a few hundred quid each, then never release their investigations and it will all go away.

I am disgusted that this is what has happened with this report.

I have to say Bozo, the Met & of course Sue Gray have all played this remarkably well.

they'll be leaks of course but the main retort to keep Bojo in power will be "there is no evidence, its all Rhubarb"

So according to the BBC:

"The Metropolitan Police has asked senior civil servant Sue Gray to make "minimal reference" to events they are investigating in her."

It all very convenient, isn't it? We are being stitched up aren't we? The bastard is going to slime out of it all and survive.

Maybe the Met should have investigated at the time. They dragged their heels.

Sorry a word (report) dropped off at the end there!

It always comes back to 'whatabout blame Labour'

Maybe Cummings has another grenade to lob. Something bigger than parties.

Yes, it’s a stitch up, though I think the original intention was for SG to produce a bland overview report rapping a few knuckles… that went wrong when the birthday party ( clearly an offence) was revealed … enter Cressida and it’s all under wraps again for the foreseeable.

Perhaps you might get a better understanding of the legislation if you looked at the fixed penalty charges.

Perhaps you would have better understanding if you read my post and thought about what the legislation meant to people. It wasn’t just about penalty charges.

Anyway, we can argue all day about which legislation was more restrictive, but I do assume that Attlee actually read and understood the legislation his government was passing.

It all very convenient, isn't it? We are being stitched up aren't we? The bastard is going to slime out of it all and survive.

Yep, saw this in one of the replies to either DAG or Sam Coates

1. Release a partial report with bits redacted.
2. Declare innocence based on partial report.
3. Some time later, police conclude no case to answer.
4. Declare innocence again.
5. State that it’s all in the past and there’s no need to release it as we’ve had two investigations.

We have Nick Coyle, the Labour MP, to thank for referring partygate to the Met and thus probably obfuscating matters

Given that people seem to think Dame Cressida Dick is in the pay of the PM, it will probably not cast any light on Partygate, and looks as though it could derail Sue Gray's report. Far be it from me to wonder if Nick Coyle is in the pay of No.10

Utter rubbish.... It was Sue Gray who referred the 'parties and what she uncovered to the Met & this triggered their so called investigation.

Coyle referred the matter to the Met over 6 weeks ago and at that time point blank refused to consider the matter.

Javid has his brother as a commander in the Met.

I think you ve gone completely overboard with your description of Maxwell.

I worked at Pergamon Press when Maxwell was in charge. There were one or two sycophants who thought he could do no wrong, but otherwise 'completely repellent' seems a fair description. I don't think anyone found him physically attractive.

Back to Johnson - why does he attract women? It can't be the old cliche 'What attracted you to the multi-millionaire?' because he's famously strapped for cash.

@Peregrina You may have missed my poor attempt at humour?

The bastard is going to slime out of it all and survive.

Depends what you mean by survive.

Removal from office depends on Tory MPs, and they may want to wait till after the May elections.

However Cummings has no intention of keeping quiet, and it’s likely that sacrificed staff will have their own stories to tell.

He might limp along for a bit by bribing MPs, but they have conflicting goals so that won’t create cohesive policy. He can’t do a U turn in national insurance and also increase spending.

@Zonder

We have Nick Coyle, the Labour MP, to thank for referring partygate to the Met and thus probably obfuscating matters.

Oh yes how dare he tell the police of suspected crimes?

Of course he can, but the price is everything being kicked down the road - and I wouldn't be surprised if, after waiting weeks and weeks, the police will take the same line as they did with Dominic Cummings excursion to Barnard Castle: a "minor breach" of lockdown rules might have occurred, but the police are not taking any further action.

So this internal enquiry turns out to be toothless. How surprising

And Cressida will do exactly what she’s told by her boss.

The whitewash we all expected.

Cold War Steve

@Florianus We have Nick Coyle, the Labour MP, to thank for referring partygate to the Met and thus probably obfuscating matters

Well we have Johnson, Mrs Johnson & colleagues at No 10 to thank for their whole mess in the first place. If they hadn’t been a culture of parties during national lockdowns nothing would need investigating! The whole problem is Johnson has now admitted they happened, he lied about them happening, got caught out so apologised then he’s shrugged his shoulders as if to say I broke the law but so what!

Alexandra2001:
It was Sue Gray who referred the 'parties and what she uncovered to the Met & this triggered their so called investigation.

Well, whoever it was has probably succeeded in kicking everything down the road for a long time to come.

I wonder how Sue Gray is feeling about it? Relief that it’s been taken out of her hands perhaps, or fury that her findings have been silenced? I’d love to be a fly on her wall.

[quote 22itsallnew]**@Florianus* We have Nick Coyle, the Labour MP, to thank for referring partygate to the Met and thus probably obfuscating matters*

Well we have Johnson, Mrs Johnson & colleagues at No 10 to thank for their whole mess in the first place. If they hadn’t been a culture of parties during national lockdowns nothing would need investigating! The whole problem is Johnson has now admitted they happened, he lied about them happening, got caught out so apologised then he’s shrugged his shoulders as if to say I broke the law but so what![/quote]
Who were the "colleagues" to which you refer?

I wonder if this latest all-too-predictable stumbling block will be one too far?
Exasperation levels both in the Conservative party and the country in general must be at boiling point.

Spot on @22itsallnew

@Peregrina You may have missed my poor attempt at humour?

I wasn't quite sure how to take it. I thought my own anecdote about the nastiness of Maxwell might cast some light on how some people could find such men attractive. Maxwell was very tall, and a genuinely good linguist, and I imagine that he could have been considered handsome in youth with an aura of mystery about him. But that didn't apply in middle-age.