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HunterHearstHelmsley · 24/01/2022 20:11

@AlDanvers

I am an android user. Samsung specifically.

I find it really odd how there's alot of android users with a snobbery around it. Like it makes them superior. Really really weird.

You get it both ways. Android users think iPhone is shit and iPhone users think Android is.

I think iPhones are shit. Not for snobby reasons, I just don't get on with them at all. I had one for work and when we swapped to Samsung for new users, I accidentally dropped mine in a sinkful of water.

HunterHearstHelmsley · 24/01/2022 20:15

If she has a decent Android phone, it seems an odd choice to downgrade to an iPhone.

Also, I can't imagine she means a second hand iPhone 6! If she's expecting a new current one, is she intending to put anything towards it? An iPhone 13 must be £800+?

HunterHearstHelmsley · 24/01/2022 20:18

@Ohpulltheotherone

People who dislike Apple just for the sake of being someone who dislikes Apple are the worst.

I have an android for work (not by choice) and it is the worst piece of shit. The IT man took great pride in telling me he’d gotten rid of all the Apple devices in the last upgrade - I just looked at him in outrage and disgust.
It’s such a inverted snob thing to hate Apple just because it’s Apple.

Also besides the point - he sounds v controlling and just a bit of a dick tbh.
I don’t like XYZ so that means the whole family can’t like XYZ.
Get to fuck, no man would pull that shit with me or my kids.

The vast majority of people don't dislike Apple because its Apple. They dislike it because its an inferior product with bloody good PR!

Rubyupbeat · 24/01/2022 21:09

My husband is totally anti Apple, for many reasons I agree with, but my son still got iPhones and mac books bought by us when he was younger, for the simple reason for him to fit in, its important as a teen.

Grilledaubergines · 24/01/2022 21:11

@InSpaceNooneCanHearYouScream

'Friends DH is extremely anti-apple and will not entertain the idea' Code for 'controlling dickhead'

It doesn’t mean he’s controlling. That’s dramatic.

Being told no doesn’t mean a parent is controlling. Or are we saying a 5 year old being told it’s bedtime is under the power of a controlling dickhead now?

OP, the lesson of not being a sheep or not having everything you want is of course a good one but in the right circumstance. In this scenario where it’s important to feel included at that age, it will do no harm at all to sort her with an iPhone. Although I’d want her to contribute to it as I think when children/teens have a financial input into something they tend to look after it better.

Kite22 · 24/01/2022 22:16

Why does he get to decide no one in the family is allowed Apple products?
Controlling dickhead.

Maybe because he is the parent ?
Maybe because she is expecting him to pay ?

When I was 13 my parents wouldn't let me stay up and watch Starsky and Hutch. Even though I told them EVERYONE ELSE was allowed. You know, they had the right to make those decisions, as I was a child and they were the parents. Did it scar me for life ? No. Did it mean I couldn't watch S&H when I was older ? No. But, at that time in my life I couldn't watch it, because my parents were making pretty sound judgements every day about how to raise their dc.

You seem to be forgetting that this isn't a partner trying to control another adult, but this is a parent making a decision about how to bring up their child. It is hardly abuse or neglect to not replace a perfectly good phone and spend hundreds of ££ on a new one she doesn't need.

StrangerYears · 24/01/2022 22:27

we bought our daughter a Samsung for the 'going to HS' birthday.
She was delighted until she was actually at HS and 'everyone' had an Iphone.

We are not Apple users but it meant a lot to her. So she saved all her pocket money/dog walking money/present money and paid half towards an Iphone 12. We paid the balance as a birthday present.
She uses it so much- the Samsung sat in her bag.

Teens need to feel part of a tribe, as long as it is not over important stuff ( - like drugs, drinking)
The 2 girls who have Nokia, never use their phones- they borrow other peoples. It is 'way too embarrassing' to use a Nokia.

I feel the pick your battles saying applies here

InSpaceNooneCanHearYouScream · 24/01/2022 23:05

@Kite22

Why does he get to decide no one in the family is allowed Apple products? Controlling dickhead.

Maybe because he is the parent ?
Maybe because she is expecting him to pay ?

When I was 13 my parents wouldn't let me stay up and watch Starsky and Hutch. Even though I told them EVERYONE ELSE was allowed. You know, they had the right to make those decisions, as I was a child and they were the parents. Did it scar me for life ? No. Did it mean I couldn't watch S&H when I was older ? No. But, at that time in my life I couldn't watch it, because my parents were making pretty sound judgements every day about how to raise their dc.

You seem to be forgetting that this isn't a partner trying to control another adult, but this is a parent making a decision about how to bring up their child. It is hardly abuse or neglect to not replace a perfectly good phone and spend hundreds of ££ on a new one she doesn't need.

Well, I'm not sure banning a 13 year old from watching Starsky and Hutch was a 'sound parenting judgment' so we'll have to agree to disagree I'm afraid.

Refrosty · 25/01/2022 00:21

My teenage nephew and his friends are all into environmental issues, saving the planet, eating less meat, wearing second hand, etc... yet they all have the latest/near latest iphones. ALL.OF.THEM. Iphones have a tight hold over teens.

I'm an Android user obviously . I'm not anti-Apple. I'm just anti bandwagon for sake of the brand name. An iphone is (imo) too expensive for what it is, and the upgrade culture ain't cute. I recently upgraded my 5 year old phone to the latest one of my preferred brand, but it's nearly half the price of my nephew's non-latest iphone. Takes better photos (he admits) and is actually innovative in terms of design. But he likes what and he's entitled to that.

ecoanxiety · 25/01/2022 07:06

[quote godmum56]@toppkatz
"No it's not being a controlling dickhead actually. My DH is very anti-Sky, I am very anti-Starbucks, in both cases because we dislike the companies' business ethos."

Yes and while you may explain this to your children, its not up to you to control their mores or politics[/quote]
it bloody well is when you are going tp be paying out 700 pounds.

mrspitt · 25/01/2022 07:17

@Fluffycloudland77

Androids shit, just get her an iPhone already. It’s just a phone 🤨

She’s allowed to have different tastes to her parents,

I’m still salty about not getting a Mr Frosty when I was little and I’m 44 now.

I hankered after Mr.Frosty also and finally Santa brought me him! It was SHIT! Please don't feel hard done by. I'm 43

FinallyHere · 25/01/2022 08:37

He doesn't like Apple but his daughter does.

The joy of parenting teenagers.

Having parents who do not cave in to peer pressure is something that you really only understand and value in later years.

Of course, it's lovely to give your children everything they want and stops them whining until the next thing comes up. That may make the parents life easier short term but it does nothing to prepare the child/teenager for adult life

Much better to have a reasonable conversation about their reasons. The teenager can present their arguments for liking and he can present his reasons for disliking the thing he boycotts. There are in fact plenty, the stats on suicides at Apple factories are no secret.

Only when they understand each other's reasons can they really expect to find any compromise.

If there really is a knockout reason for wanting an iPhone (there was a time you could only FaceTime on iOS) then a solution may be to seek the android and buy a second hand iPhone. If the teenager wast it badly enough to do without a phone while this happens then maybe ...

This process is exactly what a lot of us spend our working lives doing. Getting to be comfortable with understanding each other's differing points of view and working through it would stand them in good stead in future years.

RedskyThisNight · 25/01/2022 08:56

I'm interested to know what the children of all those people who are vehemently declaring "Android is shit" have as phones?

And how many of them have Android phones ...? Or have you imposed your own views on your children?

PrincessNikla · 25/01/2022 09:05

@RedskyThisNight

I'm interested to know what the children of all those people who are vehemently declaring "Android is shit" have as phones?

And how many of them have Android phones ...? Or have you imposed your own views on your children?

My whole family are on android except 1 elderly relative.

By choice.

That elderly relative has all sorts of problems with their equipment, closing down, thinks that they have been hacked, all sorts of issues across all their devices, and guess what, even though I am techy, I have no idea what the fuck is wrong with them.

GreenFingersWouldBeHandy · 25/01/2022 09:05

@Fluffycloudland77

I’m still salty about not getting a Mr Frosty when I was little and I’m 44 now

I never got one either. It still rankles and I'm 47!

Seriously though, going back to the OP, why is DH so anti-Apple but Android companies are OK? Any reasoning? Or just a control issue?

Singlebutmarried · 25/01/2022 09:08

[quote positivevibesonly22]**@saraclara* and @Fluffycloudland77* I'm 44 and never did get a Mr Frosty either and wanted one so badly! However I was allowed a Sindy but was not allowed a Barbie due to Sindy being a British doll and Barbie being American 🤣 we are an apple family too as once you have everything with apple its basically a pain in the arse to change but I do remember the last Samsung I had was superb and I loved android. [/quote]
Blimey. Also 44, not allowed a Mr Frosty AND had to have a Sindy

Are we all the same person?

Sartre · 25/01/2022 09:08

If she actually needs a new phone and wants an iPhone then she should absolutely have one, provided the family can afford it of course. We all have iPhones and I much, much prefer apple software. My Dad hated apple when I was younger fwiw but still bought me an iPod when they were released.

Sartre · 25/01/2022 09:09

Oh and I also never got a Mr frosty. MIL bought my DC one a couple of years ago and it was shite so my Mother did the right thing .

CounsellorTroi · 25/01/2022 11:00

@ufucoffee

I'd say she can have an iPhone if she pays for it herself. Xmas birthday money plus getting paid for doing jobs for people

So would I. She is old enough to learn that she can’t have everything she wants and expect parents to pay.

PrincessNikla · 25/01/2022 11:43

[quote GreenFingersWouldBeHandy]@Fluffycloudland77

I’m still salty about not getting a Mr Frosty when I was little and I’m 44 now

I never got one either. It still rankles and I'm 47!

Seriously though, going back to the OP, why is DH so anti-Apple but Android companies are OK? Any reasoning? Or just a control issue?[/quote]
Not speaking for the DH (obviously), but I dont like Apple because of the way they would change their charging ports, with nearly every release and make all your accessories obsolete and you would have to buy new versions.

I also dont like the way you cannot access your files easily from the phone, I feel that Apple products are for people who are not techy, as they hide all the stuff you want to be able to access

I dont know if it has changed, but I want to have music on my phone, and maybe copy some off and add more, I dont want to have to use itunes to get there.

FrankGrillosWrist · 25/01/2022 12:08

Oldest trick in the book saying “Everyone has one, except me”. I don’t think the dad’s a control freak … Loads of people don’t like Apple. Why would you pay for it under those circumstances? I’d probably get the kid the same as what I had.

FrankGrillosWrist · 25/01/2022 12:18

Forgot to say, I wouldn’t be without my iPhone. They’re so easy to use, for those who say they don’t know how to use them.

Kite22 · 25/01/2022 18:03

Have had to google what a "Mr Frosty" is / was, on the back of this thread

Fluffycloudland77 · 25/01/2022 20:23

@Singlebutmarried 🤣 possibly. Sindy was the good girl, Barbie was a bit tarty. Sindy was shit though.

I had peaches and cream barbie AND day to night barbie. I had ALL the flower fairy stuff though, including the queens horse and carriage.

MauveMavis · 25/01/2022 20:56

As an adult you are either an apple or a PC person.

I'm apple and loath and detest my work PC.

All my tech is apple. It just works better out of the box.