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To think this couple's attitude has no place in modern society?

618 replies

Georama · 20/01/2022 18:35

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10419543/Christian-couple-ban-gay-man-partner-buying-dream-650-000-sexuality.html

A church-going wife who banned a gay man and his ITV producer partner from buying her £650,000 Surrey home has hit back in the row and insisted they are just sticking to their beliefs.

Luke Whitehouse and Lachlan Mantell were stunned when they were told that they could not buy the three-bedroom home because the Christian owners didn't want to sell to 'two men in a partnership.'

Honestly, they should be ashamed of that text. I hope no estate agent will work with them ever again.

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OneTC · 20/01/2022 22:02

And gay people regularly get beaten up because of attitudes reinforced by this pair of arseholes (and you, and @cultish, and @omicrone and your mates.). No ‘possibly’ about it.

But you don’t care about that. I wonder why?

Keep posting, please. It’s easier when you are out in the open

I don't think anyone should be getting attacked really, which is apparently outlandishly homophobic who knew Hmm

I was just pointing out that you can't read very well

Innocenta · 20/01/2022 22:02

No, @Cultish - I've read all your posts, but the cloying evasive attempts to be as homophobic as possible while not breaking TGs enough to get deleted neither impress nor engage me enough to want to rebut them in detail.

Get offline and work on yourself, for real.

Cultish · 20/01/2022 22:04

Lol. You may have read them. But you weren't able to understand them.

And on that note I'm out. Enjoy your frothing rage and inability to see the bigger picture.

Innocenta · 20/01/2022 22:04

@OneTC Isn't it funny how you and other homophobic posters incessantly try to claim we - gay and lesbian posters, and allies, but I've noticed this is especially aimed at gay commenters - can't read or can't understand?

I think we can. I think we get it very, very well.

Bitofachinwag · 20/01/2022 22:05

@Elsiebear90

“Or, people are actually defending a freedom that actually people should be concerned about losing”

The freedom to be a homophobic judgemental bigot and not be called out on it?

No one is suggesting they should go to prison, they are saying their behaviour while not being illegal is immoral and they deserve to be criticised for it.

Do you ^really& think that's the freedom posters are worried about losing?

Yes the gay couple could have criticised them for it, in private, face to face. No need to "call people out" in the newspapers/internet all the time.

Elsiebear90 · 20/01/2022 22:05

“You don't know anything about me or my relationships for fucks sake. And I don't need to put my protected characteristic out there in order to be allowed to give an opinion.”

I don’t need to know anything about you, what you’ve posted here tells me enough.

Innocenta · 20/01/2022 22:05

@Cultish

Lol. You may have read them. But you weren't able to understand them.

And on that note I'm out. Enjoy your frothing rage and inability to see the bigger picture.

See below, my reply to another person relying on the same fallacy. You have one argument and everyone sees through it, I'm afraid.
thedancingbear · 20/01/2022 22:06

@Innocenta

No, *@Cultish* - I've read all your posts, but the cloying evasive attempts to be as homophobic as possible while not breaking TGs enough to get deleted neither impress nor engage me enough to want to rebut them in detail.

Get offline and work on yourself, for real.

I’m just ignoring @Cultish from here on in. He’s a nasty bit of work (you’ll see up thread he called me a ‘thick cunt’ presumably because certain other slurs have been rightly criminalised).
Innocenta · 20/01/2022 22:06

@Bitofachinwag Why are you more worried about the newspaper than the homophobia?

That's... worrying.

Elsiebear90 · 20/01/2022 22:07

“Do you ^really& think that's the freedom posters are worried about losing?

Yes the gay couple could have criticised them for it, in private, face to face. No need to "call people out" in the newspapers/internet all the time”

Yes I think that’s exactly the freedoms you’re concerned about given you have shown zero concern for anyone in this situation other than the homophobes.

OneTC · 20/01/2022 22:08

This is a first for me and I am slightly unsure how to proceed Grin

Innocenta · 20/01/2022 22:08

Very wise, @thedancingbear - happily the vein of insults this lot enjoy happens to be the one I find least likely to do any damage to me, not that it makes their behaviour any less awful. Hope you're okay too.

voldr · 20/01/2022 22:10

Yes the gay couple could have criticised them for it, in private, face to face. No need to "call people out" in the newspapers/internet all the time.

Why should anyone just have to put up with homophobia or racism or sexism? Things never change if they do.

Bitofachinwag · 20/01/2022 22:11

[quote Innocenta]@Bitofachinwag Why are you more worried about the newspaper than the homophobia?

That's... worrying. [/quote]
Sigh...I haven't said I am more worried about the newspaper than the homophobia.

Elsiebear90 · 20/01/2022 22:12

“Sigh...I haven't said I am more worried about the newspaper than the homophobia.”

You don’t have to it’s pretty obvious

YoBeaches · 20/01/2022 22:12

@BoredZelda

What you can't do is treat people differently because of it.

Wrong. You can do that as a private individual. As you should be able to. You can’t do that as a business and as an individual if you physically harm them in any way which is already illegal it will have an additional “hate crime” element on the charge.

But you can, if you like, say I don’t want gay people in my home. Or I don’t want to sell them my home. There is nothing wrong in law with doing that and neither should there be.

And yes, to whomever it was who asked I’d defend that action of the same was said about a different race or if it were disabled people or whomever. Because when the law decides who I should allow in my home, that’s not a situation I would be comfortable with. What if in 20 years time the law decides that you have to allow, say, convicted criminals who have done their time in to your home? People who think this should be illegal should be careful what they wish for.

I disagree. The gay couple were treated differently because of their sexual Orientation as a protected characteristic. They were unlawfully discriminated against.

They can take this to the civil courts and would likely win some small damages.

That doesn't mean the vendor is forced to let them access their home or to sell them their home. Simply confirms that they acted unlawfully.

Bitofachinwag · 20/01/2022 22:13

@voldr

Yes the gay couple could have criticised them for it, in private, face to face. No need to "call people out" in the newspapers/internet all the time.

Why should anyone just have to put up with homophobia or racism or sexism? Things never change if they do.

I didn't say they should have to put up with it!
Isaw3ships · 20/01/2022 22:14

Hard to believe anyone is defending these bigots or worrying that there’s a ‘pile on’ against them. They’re keen on the bible so ‘you reap what you sow’ should be familiar enough to them.
And I’m sure there are plenty of people in the church they go to happy to comfort the and tell them they’ve done the right thing.

Isaw3ships · 20/01/2022 22:15

‘ Yes the gay couple could have criticised them for it, in private, face to face. No need to "call people out" in the newspapers/internet all the time.

Will no one stand up for bigotry! How dare those gays go and shame the poor homophobes in public

RobotValkyrie · 20/01/2022 22:17

But you can, if you like, say I don’t want gay people in my home. Or I don’t want to sell them my home.

Not a lawyer, but not convinced at all these two things are equivalent in the eye of the law.
Selling something (or not) is a commercial activity, a kind of service being provided. Even if it's not your main job/source of income, that kind of activity tends to be quite heavily regulated. Anything involving money generally is.
Inviting (or not) someone into your home isn't.

Bitofachinwag · 20/01/2022 22:19

@Isaw3ships

‘ Yes the gay couple could have criticised them for it, in private, face to face. No need to "call people out" in the newspapers/internet all the time.

Will no one stand up for bigotry! How dare those gays go and shame the poor homophobes in public

Your comment is not relevant to what I said.
Ozanj · 20/01/2022 22:21

Discrimination on religious or cultural terms does happen and I know of many houses where EAs will ensure a property in a popular Hindu / Jewish / Muslim / Christian area is available to view by a customer on their books who is the right background first & so by the time the rest know about it or it goes on RM it’s sold. Never known other types of discrimination tho

Cultish · 20/01/2022 22:21

I’m just ignoring @Cultish from here on in. He’s a nasty bit of work (you’ll see up thread he called me a ‘thick cunt’ presumably because certain other slurs have been rightly criminalised)

😂 I didnt call you a thick cunt. I simply said that people might call you a thick cunt, in response to you calling the couple bigoted cunts. You seem to be quite at home refering to other people as cunts. You've said it plenty of times on this thread. Or is that ok in your mind, until it gets directed back at you 😉

timshortfforthalia · 20/01/2022 22:27

Why all the talk of the gay couple taking it to the papers? Its 2022. I imagine they tweeted about it (as you would) and then press got in touch with them.

One poster was suggesting that they went to the papers with photos of the Christians and the house Confused

What amazes me is how stupid the sellers were. Surely they could have just quietly pulled out of viewings without a reason. That way, they stick to their religious principles. Instead they not only told the buyers why, but quoted the bible. So much unecessary theatrics and escalation. They just had to be right. And that makes me have very limited sympathy for those claiming that we should protect them by not talking about their actions.

5128gap · 20/01/2022 22:31

@Cultish

I’m just ignoring *@Cultish* from here on in. He’s a nasty bit of work (you’ll see up thread he called me a ‘thick cunt’ presumably because certain other slurs have been rightly criminalised)

😂 I didnt call you a thick cunt. I simply said that people might call you a thick cunt, in response to you calling the couple bigoted cunts. You seem to be quite at home refering to other people as cunts. You've said it plenty of times on this thread. Or is that ok in your mind, until it gets directed back at you 😉

Anyone who thinks that calling someone bigoted based on their behaviour is the same as calling someone thick as an insult, is probably deserving of one of those adjectives being ascribed to them. (Clue: it's not bigoted. On this occasion.)