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To think that Angela Rayner could be PM one day.

441 replies

Breathoffreshair82 · 19/01/2022 11:06

I just think she's a breath of fresh air. She's real and authentic, she's come from a poor upbringing. She was her mums carer age 9, was a teenager mum, worked in social care and worked her way up the ladder. I just find it amazing that she's achieved all of this from how her life started. If she was running for PM and the next general election I will definitely be voting for her.

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stitchmaker85 · 19/01/2022 13:24

No, her accent and background don't bother me so much as her inability to pronounce simple words (e.g Secretary)

MintJulia · 19/01/2022 13:24

I suppose anything is possible. She isn't my choice.

I don't see how choosing someone for a job because they are poorly educated is a valid approach.

Maybe when she learns the value of diplomacy....

Shambolicatthleast · 19/01/2022 13:25

@A580Hojas I think it’s the uncalled for personal insults that some are objecting to. Compare her voting record with Johnson’s or Patels or Raabs or Shaps. They might not be ‘common’ but they sure are immoral.

ElsieMc · 19/01/2022 13:25

@LarrytheLurker has it right. I come from a very similar background to Angela Rayner and I absolutely cannot stand her. She is so divisive and I believe she hangs on to the old hatreds within the Labour party. Division and hatred are not the way forward and worst of all it comes out when she is drunk.

I think KS wants rid of her. He just so knows she repels voters but he is stuck with her. Sometimes chalk and cheese works but this is a disastrous pairing. He is too metropolitan, too far removed from the North. She counters this but it just does not work. Sadly good constituency MPs dont make good leaders, look at Tim Farron.

stamina · 19/01/2022 13:26

Anyone as long it's not another Bullingham club bully.

BurnDownTheDiscoHangTheDJ · 19/01/2022 13:26

I hope so, I think she's brilliant. Her actual real-life experience would make her a great PM in my opinion. I'd love to see a genuinely working class prime minister in my lifetime. I think it would engage so many more people in politics too.

stamina · 19/01/2022 13:27

Seriously 2 in a decade - what did we do to deserve that.

jojogoesbust · 19/01/2022 13:27

@MarshmallowFondant

God help us. Uneducated, who revels in her lack of knowledge/education and shovels her "well I left school pregnant at 16 without a single GCSE" into every interview and conversation as if it's a badge of honour. She's foul mouthed, inarticulate and rough as fuck.

Can you REALLY see her at the G7 with Macron and Putin and Biden and the rest of the other world leaders? Out of her depth doesn't even START to cover it.

And before anyone starts on the "classist" nonsense - there's a world of difference between having a rough start in life, getting educated, learning a bit about the world and getting into politics and Angela Rayner.

This with bells on
fluffiphlox · 19/01/2022 13:28

I do hope not.

Floundery · 19/01/2022 13:28

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BurnDownTheDiscoHangTheDJ · 19/01/2022 13:29

@MarshmallowFondant

God help us. Uneducated, who revels in her lack of knowledge/education and shovels her "well I left school pregnant at 16 without a single GCSE" into every interview and conversation as if it's a badge of honour. She's foul mouthed, inarticulate and rough as fuck.

Can you REALLY see her at the G7 with Macron and Putin and Biden and the rest of the other world leaders? Out of her depth doesn't even START to cover it.

And before anyone starts on the "classist" nonsense - there's a world of difference between having a rough start in life, getting educated, learning a bit about the world and getting into politics and Angela Rayner.

Boris Johnson was highly educated in the finest institutions in the land. Not the brightest candle on the cake though, is he? But I'm sure you say that he's far cleverer than Rayner, simply because of a few classical allusions and an accent. Sad really. And proves what an issue with class we still have in this country.
Justcallmebebes · 19/01/2022 13:29

I do like her as a person but for PM, no. She's also too closely associated with Corbyn for the British electorate

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MilduraS · 19/01/2022 13:30

@MarshmallowFondant

God help us. Uneducated, who revels in her lack of knowledge/education and shovels her "well I left school pregnant at 16 without a single GCSE" into every interview and conversation as if it's a badge of honour. She's foul mouthed, inarticulate and rough as fuck.

Can you REALLY see her at the G7 with Macron and Putin and Biden and the rest of the other world leaders? Out of her depth doesn't even START to cover it.

And before anyone starts on the "classist" nonsense - there's a world of difference between having a rough start in life, getting educated, learning a bit about the world and getting into politics and Angela Rayner.

This response explains it more eloquently than I could.
Diddlydeee · 19/01/2022 13:30

No she’s bloody awful!

3peassuit · 19/01/2022 13:32

Her “Tory Scum” outburst turned me off her for good. I expect better of a potential PM.

PelvicFloorTrauma · 19/01/2022 13:32

And the informal poll says "No" to NVQ Level 2 Rayner.

x2boys · 19/01/2022 13:39

[quote Shambolicatthleast]@x2boys but you vote Tory ? You think the tories are the answer to northern woes. Of course she’s ‘utterly vile’. Oh and I think your MP has defected to Labour Grin[/quote]
Not mine no .

Angrymum22 · 19/01/2022 13:39

She reminds me of the brassy, ignorant bullies at my northern comprehensive. The ones that made using loos a truly harrowing activity.
So it’s a no from me.

CounsellorTroi · 19/01/2022 13:41

@PlanktonsComputerWife

Her English is terrible, unfortunately. I fear she'd become a byword in malapropisms, howlers, "misspeak"ings, as George Bush or Bob Dole did in the US.
George Bush went to Yale and got a history degree so he really did not have any excuse for being unable to speak English properly.
BurnDownTheDiscoHangTheDJ · 19/01/2022 13:45

@3peassuit

Her “Tory Scum” outburst turned me off her for good. I expect better of a potential PM.
But calling gay men “tank-topped bum boys” and rating female MPs on a “tottymeter” is polite, is it?! Actually, I would go as far as to say those comments make the speaker Tory scum tbh.
FKATondelayo · 19/01/2022 13:51

I can't think of anything more snobbish and class bound than assuming working class women would vote for and like Angela Rayner just because of her background.

"Ooh I love her cos she keeps it real and says it like it is and grew up in a council 'ouse just like us amirite girlz! I don't like those posh boys because they remind me of teachers at school and that makes me sad because i only have half a GCSE in tanning and wearing Primark."

Shambolicatthleast · 19/01/2022 13:53

Lol love Boris cos he's funny.

ExConstance · 19/01/2022 13:57

I'd like to have her hair, but I'd rather have Jess Phillips for PM.

DdraigGoch · 19/01/2022 14:00

What’s the issue ? Plenty of plummy voiced slickly dressed sleezy tories get away with the same….

@Shambolicatthleast do any of them call other people "scum"?