To be really enjoying Boris Johnson's downfall?

[GrendelsGrandma]

I know he'll be replaced by someone equally awful and I know he's not quite gone yet, but I can't remember when I felt uplifted about politics and the ejection of this national embarrassment is warming my cockles. Anyone else feel the same?

@JaniieJones

'think you are saying that you can't socialise with work colleagues. That is a shame for you'

Nooo you're missing my point. Yes they can it's about location and context though isn't it. Hopefully Sue Gray can understand these things.

The location being a massive garden and the context being 40+ people eating, drinking and not working.

Is a funeral wake a party? They certainly can be, for those who aren't the immediately bereaved.

Personally I hope he is forced out. I hope some dark horse comes forward who is not in his circle of cronies, and becomes Tory leader. And then the whole crowd of them Raab, Truss, Patel, Rees-Mogg get booted out to the back benches where they can get on with the important job of representing their constituents.

@JaniieJones

Anywayyyy I think we should focus on the brilliant news that plan b is over, we will have the most open economy in Europe and face masks are to be ditched 🥳

@JaniieJones as long as in your excitement you remember that the lack of restrictions is more a reflection on the weak and wobbly Prime Minister we have and not the covid situation, then that is fine.

A few years ago I went to a wake for an elderly relative. There was eating of canapés and drinking. of a toast. Was that a party?

Do you think it was a work gathering?

Nooo you're missing my point. Yes they can it's about location and context though isn't it.

Presumably because your point is rubbish. Nobody has pretended that anyone was working.

Do you think it was a work gathering?

It must have been, because bringing booze to any gathering seems to be the new definition of work.

@Florianus

"a social gathering of invited guests, typically involving eating, drinking, and entertainment."

There was no entertainment at No.10, as far as I know, so the event immediately fails that description.

A few years ago I went to a wake for an elderly relative. There was eating of canapés and drinking. of a toast. Was that a party?

Your dictionary definition, as so often the case, is too broad.

@Florianus

Feel free to offer your own definition for our amusement.

You will note the word typically in relation to eating, drinking and entertainment, so I think the average person on the Clapham omnibus would understand that entertainment wasn't required to make a party a party.

Anywayyyy I think we should focus on the brilliant news that plan b is over, we will have the most open economy in Europe and face masks are to be ditched 🥳

Just because you are celebrating being able to go out without face masks doesn't mean that you still won't catch Covid. The brilliant news will be when the WHO is able to declare that the pandemic is over.

The party defences on here are hilarious.

@JaniieJones

'think you are saying that you can't socialise with work colleagues. That is a shame for you'

Nooo you're missing my point. Yes they can it's about location and context though isn't it. Hopefully Sue Gray can understand these things.

@JaniieJones

"a social gathering of invited guests, typically involving eating, drinking, and entertainment."

So I think we are now in agreement that it was a social gathering?
That people were invited, food and drink were consumed.
There was at least one clown there for entertainment (but whilst that is my opinion and is probably widely shared I will concede it is not a fact).

Can we also agree it was a duck?

'Presumably because your point is rubbish. Nobody has pretended that anyone was working.'

Don't be so rude. My points arent 'rubbish' at all thanks very much.

No one has pretended anything. I think the facts are they were work colleagues eating and drinking at work. Just like Labour did.

@callingon

The party defences on here are hilarious.

I am not getting any work done this evening with all the entertainment here. My bottle of wine remains untouched.

@JanieJones a wake is a social gathering - as such they were severely limited in numbers allowed to attend during lockdown.

See helpfully the speech by the PM on what was and wasn't allowed. www.gov.uk/government/speeches/pm-address-to-the-nation-on-coronavirus-10-may-2020

You can sit in the sun in your local park, you can drive to other destinations, you can even play sports but only with members of your own household.

You must obey the rules on social distancing and to enforce those rules we will increase the fines for the small minority who break them.

No, you can't get pissed with workmates in the garden.

'Just because you are celebrating being able to go out without face masks doesn't mean that you still won't catch Covid'

Well no but it is a step in the right direction, no? Good news!

@JaniieJones

'Presumably because your point is rubbish. Nobody has pretended that anyone was working.'

Don't be so rude. My points arent 'rubbish' at all thanks very much.

No one has pretended anything. I think the facts are they were work colleagues eating and drinking at work. Just like Labour did.

@JaniieJones could you please provide the date when the Labour party or senior members of it attended a party of 25 or more people that broke the lockdown rules.

Much obliged.

Just like Labour did

Even if that was true, it didn’t happen 17 times and involve a DJ and a suitcase full of booze the night, before Prince Philip’s funeral.

No one has pretended anything. I think the facts are they were work colleagues eating and drinking at work.

This is not a defence that anyone is presenting

David Davis asked the PM to resign today.

Your points are rubbish because they bear no relation to what is happening at the moment, or the email that was sent, or what anyone has claimed has happened.

'could you please provide the date when the Labour party or senior members of it attended a party of 25 or more people that broke the lockdown rules.'

No just the snap of Starmer in a room drinking beer and eating snacks whilst at work with work colleagues. Which is a party according to some of you. Indoors too, without windows open tut tut! It's no wonder he's forever isolating is it.

I’d enjoy it more if Britain had anything else decent to offer. Someone who knows the country, north, mid and south and has actually had to work for a living rather than be given it all. Someone outside of the London economic bubble and prepared to admit it is a bubble, causing substantial harm to all of us. Someone who believes in sustainability, living within one’s own means, and rewarding work. But outside my fantasy land, it is always nice to see a lying conniving misogynistic backstabber get some comeuppance. I bet Theresa May thinks so too.

@Blessex

Sadly I will have to vote Tory at the next election despite never voting for them before because every other party is intent in throwing women and girls under a bus. Until Labour and the Lib Dens get their act together on gender ideology I will be forced to vote Tory. It’s a sad state of affairs.

Because Tory austerity policies haven't negatively impacted on women and girls?! I'm as GC as anyone but seriously look at the bigger picture, poverty has a devastating impact on women.

@JaniieJones

'could you please provide the date when the Labour party or senior members of it attended a party of 25 or more people that broke the lockdown rules.'

No just the snap of Starmer in a room drinking beer and eating snacks whilst at work with work colleagues. Which is a party according to some of you. Indoors too, without windows open tut tut! It's no wonder he's forever isolating is it.

@JaniieJones I am glad you agree that Labour did nothing like the Downing Street party on the 20th May 2020. It is a shame that you wrongly gave a different impression in an earlier post, but thank you for the clarification.

'David Davis asked the PM to resign today'

So what. Sir Edward Leigh told him to 'keep going', in a far more convincing manner than Davis' mumbling.

I bet Theresa May thinks so too

So what you ask? Your sainted Boris didn't know how famous the quotation "In the name of God go" was. First used by Cromwell to the Long Parliament, just before the country was riven by Civil War. Second said to Chamberlain just before the start of WW2.

Johnson babbled - he didn't know the quote. Find the recordings of today's Parliament if you don't believe me.

@JaniieJones

'Presumably because your point is rubbish. Nobody has pretended that anyone was working.'

Don't be so rude. My points arent 'rubbish' at all thanks very much.

No one has pretended anything. I think the facts are they were work colleagues eating and drinking at work. Just like Labour did.

Not really - was Kier’s wife there? Were they mixing departmental bubbles? Were restrictions at the time preventing people meeting for work.

I think you need to visit the government website and brush up on what the restrictions were at various point instead of making foolish comparisons and hoping no one points out the obvious flaws.