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To think Montessori is massively overhyped?

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Sherekhancarolbaskin · 19/01/2022 01:38

Or does it truly have proven pedagogic advantages?

I’m already not a fan of the Waldorf Steiner method at all.

Montessori does seem a lot better to me but after having looked into it a lot of it seems a bit off to me. Besides the fact Maria Montessori did questionable things as a parent herself, abandoning her own son

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Kanaloa · 21/01/2022 13:26

@mathanxiety

And do you have a very large sample and control group picked from similar home environments? Because otherwise this just isn’t really provable.

I know loads of self starting, hard working kids who have a good self awareness who didn’t go to a Montessori nursery.

And if the adults I know I really don’t know what nurseries they went to. I don’t put mine on my CV and honestly I can’t remember anybody ever asking me where I received my preschool education.

The point of Montessori is to empower the teacher to engage with the children on an individual level and while carefully guiding them through tiers of understanding, empower children to take charge of their own learning.

I have had the experience of observing young adults who have gone all the way through to age 17-18 in Montessori schools.

I am curious as to why you restrict your observations to preschool, and why you brought CVs into the discussion @Kanaloa?

I explained it pretty clearly. I’ve only worked in reception/year 1, and I was giving my experience that there is very little noticeable difference by year 1 in children who have attended different preschool setting.

I then went on to say that in real life very few people know wether someone attended a Montessori nursery or a childminder at the end of the road, because few people put ‘elm road Montessori nursery school’ at the top of their CV.

Realistically the idea that a Montessori nursery is somehow superior and the alumni can be easily spotted 20 years later is daft.

Hope that satisfied your curiosity.

Kanaloa · 21/01/2022 13:26

*whether

pastypirate · 21/01/2022 16:39

Insta-eco huns and Montessori-inspired parents are two completely different breeds.

This. I you want to me the grims rainbow evangelists they are in the limited screen time fb group I'm in. They are loons. And nothing like the Montessori parents from dds nursery.

Curlyreine · 21/01/2022 18:13

@CatJumperTwat

Hi twat! I replied upthread. Good night!

Hi lyre! You posted some contradictory waffle, first backtracking but then saying it was about cooperation vs competition. What does that mean?

Hi Twat, I can only apologise if you read my explanations as ‘waffle’ or contradictory. Not my intention at all. I did backtrack as I was (multitasking and speed reading) and my ‘to adulthood’ response was referring to how far the montessori pedagogy goes, which was not the post I responded to. Of course, I apologise profusely for any misunderstanding.

The Montessori pedagogy goes much further than nursery years, and each plane of development follows on from each other.

You can tell the difference in the children who have attended (certified) Montessori schools, in my experience. Not in terms of the child’s intellect or ambition, but in the expectations the child has of their individual learning, their autonomy and the order in which the child learns. I also stated that (again, IMO) the British system is one of the best for being child centred. I don’t agree with or like the fact that the pedagogy is mostly only available to those who can afford it, but the British system has adopted a lot of aspects towards it, so there is some hope that lots of children can have a part of the experience.

The differences are far too numerous to explain in one post. I came from the usual teaching background and spent quite some time observing Montessori, with many many questions myself. If you wish to have a decent conversation in an attempt to gain some understanding in the differences, then I am happy to do that (preferably via PM). However, if You just want to demand that I justify myself for holding a view that is different to yours, then I prefer not too. I trust you understand that.

Google the principles of montessori. That will help you to understand the differences between cooperation and competition in this context. It will also explain other misunderstandings on this thread such as imagination/fantasy or freedom/responsibility.

The maths materials are just wonderful. This is what first led me to explore this pedagogy, as I noted in my classroom that some children struggled with the abstract concepts. Within the 3-6 classroom, for example, children become familiar with binomial squares, to help develop visual discrimination (shape, color, pattern). It also has an indirect aim, which is to offer sensorial input so that when we used the material in the 6-12 classroom to explain the binomial equation, the material is already known to the child. This is an example of familiarization over memorization, and the children are able to grasp this concept easily. I find watching the children learn in this sensorial way absolutely fascinating. And yes… they are usually ahead of the standard national curriculums (again, in my experience.)

For further reading, I would recommend ‘Montessori speaks to parents’ ‘Educating the human potential’ and ‘The Absorbent Mind’ all written by Maria Montessori. She also has a fascinating life story and it’s worth reading.

As I also previously mentioned, there was an interesting study done by neuroscientist Sophie Dénervaud in the University of Lausanne, demonstrating the benefits of the Montessori pedagogy on the students neural networks and how they approached stress/managed unforeseen circumstances. You can also find this on the internet.

Lyre

Curlyreine · 21/01/2022 18:26

@Kanaloa you might also find the study interesting.

serval.unil.ch/resource/serval:BIB_921000E081D3.P002/REF.pdf

Link to an article summarizing the actual study (but in French, sorry I couldn't find an English one).

www.google.ch/amp/s/amp.rts.ch/info/suisse/12211126-la-methode-montessori-favoriserait-la-gestion-de-lechec.html

emi1234 · 23/01/2022 19:51

I can't answer your question specifically sorry, but I am wishing to interview some UK based Montessori, private or home-educating parents for my psychology dissertation.

The requirements to participate in my study include having a primary school aged child and you are considering or have already started the education types listed.
If anyone would like to get involved or have some questions you would like to ask about the study - please email me the researcher [email protected] 😁

Thank you in advance!

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