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If there was an election tomorrow, who would you vote for?

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SecretKeeper1 · 12/01/2022 19:23

Obviously the Tories are a complete shitshow, but Labour aren’t a lot better and I couldn’t hand on heart vote for either in good conscience right now.

So… IF a snap election was called, like in December 2019, who would you vote for? Would it make a difference to you if Boris was replaced as Tory leader? Would you even bother voting or maybe go for a totally different national or local party?

Just curious!

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Sabire9 · 13/01/2022 08:12

Liz Truss?

What happened to change her mind on BREXIT do you think? She'd always been a strong supporter of our membership of the EU.

You don't think it could be because she has no deeply held principles and would say she believes in anything that would be politically expedient, even if she actually thinks it would be terrible for the country?

A bit like Boris Johnson?

NiceShrubbery · 13/01/2022 08:24

The Lab-Con stranglehold needs to be broken. Everyone needs to vote Green and/or LibDem, SNP, Workers' Party, Communists or anyone except Labour or Tory. Pulverise their support. Then the obsolete two-party system dies and they have no choice but to listen and reform.

Or vote Tory/Labour and keep the whole sorry mess on life support, under another chaotic useless lying bastard leader in a fake democracy.

I'll be voting Green but would quite happily vote any other minor party.

user1497207191 · 13/01/2022 08:28

@NiceShrubbery

The Lab-Con stranglehold needs to be broken. Everyone needs to vote Green and/or LibDem, SNP, Workers' Party, Communists or anyone except Labour or Tory. Pulverise their support. Then the obsolete two-party system dies and they have no choice but to listen and reform.

Or vote Tory/Labour and keep the whole sorry mess on life support, under another chaotic useless lying bastard leader in a fake democracy.

I'll be voting Green but would quite happily vote any other minor party.

Lots of people voted Clegg/libdem in 2020 but they sold their soul to form a coalition with Cameron/Tories for a sniff of power. People won't forget that betrayal, especially young adults due to the tuition fees hike the Libdems promised they wouldn't increase.

So, no voting for a less popular party doesn't work either.

JulesJules · 13/01/2022 08:29

I have never not voted, and am furious that I have no options to vote for a party who know what a woman is. I live in a safe Labour seat, and my MP is pretty good, but I cannot vote for a party whose MPs think it's fine to house male rapists in women's prisons, accuse women of being 'rights hoarding dinosaurs' and support self id.

Sabire9 · 13/01/2022 08:34

JulesJules - how many trans sex offenders have been housed in women's prisons?

ecoanxiety · 13/01/2022 08:35

I've always voted green.
I would never ever vote tories and I can't believe my parents (lower working class, struggle with money) do. its like the tree voting for the axe.

Sabire9 · 13/01/2022 08:37

"The Lab-Con stranglehold needs to be broken. Everyone needs to vote Green and/or LibDem, SNP, Workers' Party, Communists"

Except they won't.

And we'll have the Conservatives back in for another term.

We need PR first. And we'll never get that with the Conservatives in power, never, because it'll mean we'll never again be ruled by people who are politically right of the centre.

Sabire9 · 13/01/2022 08:41

@ecoanxiety

I've always voted green. I would never ever vote tories and I can't believe my parents (lower working class, struggle with money) do. its like the tree voting for the axe.
If they get all their news from The Express The Daily Mail The Telegraph The Times The Sun
  • then they've been exposed to years of propaganda and lies by the hard right. Tough for people to see beyond that.
GuckGuckDoose · 13/01/2022 08:42

@Sabire9

"The Lab-Con stranglehold needs to be broken. Everyone needs to vote Green and/or LibDem, SNP, Workers' Party, Communists"

Except they won't.

And we'll have the Conservatives back in for another term.

We need PR first. And we'll never get that with the Conservatives in power, never, because it'll mean we'll never again be ruled by people who are politically right of the centre.

Again, this.

There is so much fundamental misunderstanding of the political system we are currently in and it could walk us blindly in to term after term more of this shit, and the conservatives know this.

Dumblebum · 13/01/2022 08:46

Tory to be honest, as much a Boris is a maverick who does as he pleases, I do think brexit was handled well and the vaccination program for Covid the same and the other parties are a proper shit show right now.

VenusClapTrap · 13/01/2022 08:48

Lib Dem to get the tories out.

luckylavender · 13/01/2022 08:49

@Pyewhacket

Conservative, the alternative is too awful to think about.
And I think we are living through the worse government imaginable. And I lived through the Thatcher years.
Strugglingtodomybest · 13/01/2022 08:50

Lib Dems or Labour

Sabire9 · 13/01/2022 08:51

"Brexit was handled well"

So the ongoing 4% hit to GDP - double the cost of the pandemic - that counts as a 'Brexit success'? The hit to GDP that's going to impact on every single area of public spending for a decade - schools, hospitals, social care? Really?

Confused
NiceShrubbery · 13/01/2022 08:51

Except they won't.

If enough people just consider even the possibility of change, change is possible. Automatic responses like that will keep us stuck in the mire.

I think the political situation is getting painful enough now for everyone to at least consider the options.

luckylavender · 13/01/2022 08:53

@Nightlystroll

You think the Labour Party caused the 2008 US sub prime scandal, subsequent financial crash and global recession?

They didn't cause it but they must have known it was coming. It had been reported in the broadsheets for a couple of years before. My dad told me about it and he had no idea about finance. So even if the Treasury didn't have its eye on what was happening in different parts of the world, all they had to do was open the Times, the FT, the Telegraph and they could read about. Brown was meant to be this money wizard (I won't mention gold prices), why didn't he get us prepared for it whilst in the Treasury and even more so as PM. Instead of leaving it and then making last minute negotiations of bailing out banks on favourable terms for the bankers. He should have been reforming the banking sector long before the crisis hit our shores. Other countries rode out the crisis because they had money in the bank and hadn't just kept spending money they didn't have because it looked good with the voters.

Do you know how Brown stabilised the WORLD economy at this time?
hopperrock · 13/01/2022 08:54

And I think we are living through the worse government imaginable. And I lived through the Thatcher years.

Speaking as someone who celebrated for days when she went, this pandemic has actually made me quite nostalgic for the Thatcher years. I don't believe we would have seen such incompetence, arrogance and naked corruption if she were PM.

luckylavender · 13/01/2022 08:56

@hopperrock

And I think we are living through the worse government imaginable. And I lived through the Thatcher years.

Speaking as someone who celebrated for days when she went, this pandemic has actually made me quite nostalgic for the Thatcher years. I don't believe we would have seen such incompetence, arrogance and naked corruption if she were PM.

I agree (although it sticks in my throat!)
User135644 · 13/01/2022 08:59

@NiceShrubbery

The Lab-Con stranglehold needs to be broken. Everyone needs to vote Green and/or LibDem, SNP, Workers' Party, Communists or anyone except Labour or Tory. Pulverise their support. Then the obsolete two-party system dies and they have no choice but to listen and reform.

Or vote Tory/Labour and keep the whole sorry mess on life support, under another chaotic useless lying bastard leader in a fake democracy.

I'll be voting Green but would quite happily vote any other minor party.

Will never happen without PR voting.
onlychildhamster · 13/01/2022 09:00

I would say it really depends on where you live.

Mumsnet is a parenting forum so there would be a disproportionate number of people living in suburban areas and towns (due to things like schools, access to green spaces and cheaper housing); and in England generally, a lot of these areas tend to lean tory. So voting Lib Dem as a protest vote (not because you necessarily support them) could be a wise move as it is too big of a leap for them to vote Labour. In North Shropshire, the voters voted for Lib Dem even though majority would have voted for Brexit. there would probably be a tactical voting calculator floating around nearer to the election.

hopperrock · 13/01/2022 09:02

I could never say it out loud @luckylavender Smile

I am also nostalgic for the times when senior politicians were on the whole, intelligent people with principles (that I may or may not have agreed with) who had at least a hint of public service about them. Thinking about how John Major and Gordon Brown were so derided when they were PM. They look like titans now.

SmallElephant · 13/01/2022 09:05

Labour

NiceShrubbery · 13/01/2022 09:08

Will never happen without PR voting

And PR will never happen until people split the vote strategically and stop voting for the effing Tories and Labour. Got to start somewhere!!

BellaChagall · 13/01/2022 09:09

I'd vote for my current MP if he stands as I believe he is a good constituency MP.

hopperrock · 13/01/2022 09:09

@NiceShrubbery

Will never happen without PR voting

And PR will never happen until people split the vote strategically and stop voting for the effing Tories and Labour. Got to start somewhere!!

Do the Lib Dems still have PR in their manifesto?