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Who is being U, Australia or Novak Djokovic?

999 replies

inheritancetrack · 06/01/2022 08:06

Me, I'm in the you can't have your cake and eat it Novak, camp!

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MarieG10 · 09/01/2022 06:38

So apparently his defence is he has had covid and is exempt for 6 months....only the date he was positive he has been photographed at a public event. Ummm?

marcopront · 09/01/2022 06:57

@MarieG10

So apparently his defence is he has had covid and is exempt for 6 months....only the date he was positive he has been photographed at a public event. Ummm?
Don't forget he applied for the visa saying he had had Covid before he got if.
MarieG10 · 09/01/2022 07:11

Accepting he lives in Serbia...don't people normally isolate when they are covid positive rather than going out doing public events?

JustUseTheDoorSanta · 09/01/2022 07:29

@MarieG10

So apparently his defence is he has had covid and is exempt for 6 months....only the date he was positive he has been photographed at a public event. Ummm?
No, his defence is that he knew in October that he'd catch covid in December. The public events are a different matter but fine, he obviously didn't have covid so he couldn't spread it.
milkyaqua · 09/01/2022 07:29

We didn’t see people like Nicole Kidman, Julia Roberts and Ed Sheehan isolating in the quarantine hotel with everyone else.

That has nothing to do with Border Force.

Gremlinsateit · 09/01/2022 08:20

@milkyaqua

We didn’t see people like Nicole Kidman, Julia Roberts and Ed Sheehan isolating in the quarantine hotel with everyone else.

That has nothing to do with Border Force.

It might have nothing to do with individual ABF officers, but it has a great deal to do with the relevant Cth Minister’s policies, that such individuals were allowed into the country before vaccines were available here, and then permitted to make private quarantine arrangements.
Pensieve · 09/01/2022 08:23

Team Australia.

billysboy · 09/01/2022 08:29

He is free to go back to Serbia at any time

Lots of footage now emerging of him out meeting other people whilst he was allegedly positive

All this following his super spreader tournament when covid first hit

PurplePansy05 · 09/01/2022 09:39

But the vaccines are available in Australia now and the rules cover ND too. It's pretty simple.

IcedPurple · 09/01/2022 09:42

@MarieG10

Accepting he lives in Serbia...don't people normally isolate when they are covid positive rather than going out doing public events?
I think he mostly lives in Monaco.
sashagabadon · 09/01/2022 09:54

Argument i heard on radio this morning is that his positive test was dated 16th Dec but as tests can take up to 28 days to come back ( which sounds very long as we are mostly 24hours in U.K.) he had already completed his isolation well before the test came back.
So was free to go about his business.
We had similar at start of pandemic here where test results were taking 5-7 days and so some people only had a few days of isolation left by the time their test result came back.
If test turn around is 28 days in Serbia Shock it’s a terrible testing system but a plausible explanation.

ajandjjmum · 09/01/2022 10:18

@sashagabadon

Argument i heard on radio this morning is that his positive test was dated 16th Dec but as tests can take up to 28 days to come back ( which sounds very long as we are mostly 24hours in U.K.) he had already completed his isolation well before the test came back. So was free to go about his business. We had similar at start of pandemic here where test results were taking 5-7 days and so some people only had a few days of isolation left by the time their test result came back. If test turn around is 28 days in Serbia Shock it’s a terrible testing system but a plausible explanation.
I can't believe that - 28 days - what's the point of testing?!! Be interesting to hear if that anyone else had that experience.
IWentAwayIStayedAway · 09/01/2022 10:20

Team australia. Every country has always had its rules re entering. If you dont like it. Hard luck.

sashagabadon · 09/01/2022 10:30

I assume they mean up to 28 days ( worse case). So average could be 14 days I assume which is still terrible but not unbelievable. We were sometimes 7 days here in U.K. at bad points in 2020 and I think the U.K. testing system is (now) one of the best in the world.

Sheabutterisdelish · 09/01/2022 10:43

This is all quite fascinating!

JustUseTheDoorSanta · 09/01/2022 10:43

he had already completed his isolation well before the test came back
14 days in Serbia would be 31st December. So the argument now is that he tested on 16th December, got the results on 1st January 2022 or later. Got a ticket and flew on 5th January. His entry all this time being based on a visa that Tennis Australia had approved for him back in October 2021, including confirmations that his exemption for the covid infection he found out about 3 months later was fine. It's ever so much like taking the piss.

Flywheel · 09/01/2022 10:43

So he made all his arrangements and applied for his visa and exemption before knowing he had covid and then conveniently found out he had covid too late to have to do any isolation, but conveniently just in time to travel to Australia. On the visa and exemption he had applied for months in advance. Sure. All seems perfectly above board.

ListeningButNotHearing · 09/01/2022 10:48

Team Australia
Rules are rules whoever you are.

Roussette · 09/01/2022 11:34

Absolutely no way would a demi god in Serbia like Djokovic be told to wait 28 days to get a result!
He would know the same day. He has the best medical facilities at his disposal.

He went out shaking hands, hugging children, playing tennis with them knowing he had covid (if you believe he was tested on 16th December and it isn't just a story made up to get him into Australia)

There's a photo of him with a young kid playing tennis on Christmas Day. He should've been in isolation if that was the case

marcopront · 09/01/2022 12:15

@sashagabadon

Argument i heard on radio this morning is that his positive test was dated 16th Dec but as tests can take up to 28 days to come back ( which sounds very long as we are mostly 24hours in U.K.) he had already completed his isolation well before the test came back. So was free to go about his business. We had similar at start of pandemic here where test results were taking 5-7 days and so some people only had a few days of isolation left by the time their test result came back. If test turn around is 28 days in Serbia Shock it’s a terrible testing system but a plausible explanation.
But he didn't isolate

He tweeted about being out and about.

whynotwhatknot · 09/01/2022 12:47

So did he go out and about knowing he had covid?

if hes let in to play thats stil not going to go down well is it-convienently is infected just int time to be exempt but is seen out in public?

CorrBlimeyGG · 09/01/2022 13:37

It will be interesting to see how the court rules on this. If they accept the Serbian authorities claim that he did have a positive covid test, then they let him in, and piss off the thousands of people that can see it's not true. Or do they go with all the evidence that disputes his assertion, and face the diplomatic wrath of Serbia?

Can Serbia cause problems for Australia? I genuinely don't know.

JassyRadlett · 09/01/2022 14:03

It will be interesting to see how the court rules on this. If they accept the Serbian authorities claim that he did have a positive covid test, then they let him in, and piss off the thousands of people that can see it's not true. Or do they go with all the evidence that disputes his assertion, and face the diplomatic wrath of Serbia?

The underlying question is whether a positive recent test was ever a valid exemption from vaccination for temporary visa holders wanting to travel to Australia. I’d seen it as a domestic exemption from vaccine mandates in some states but never from a borders point of view. In which case, the while ‘I had Covid!’ thing is totally irrelevant.

Can Serbia cause problems for Australia? I genuinely don't know.

I think the last time they did was 1914.

Porridgeislife · 09/01/2022 14:14

Can Serbia cause problems for Australia? I genuinely don't know.

Not really. Currently Serbia has visa free travel for Australians. They could do what Turkey did in 2012 and whack up the cost of an entry visa for Australian passport holders.

Otherpeoplesteens · 09/01/2022 15:02

I'm amazed that his sponsors haven't publicly dumped him. I wouldn't buy anything from Peugeot or Lacoste at the moment.