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Who is being U, Australia or Novak Djokovic?

999 replies

inheritancetrack · 06/01/2022 08:06

Me, I'm in the you can't have your cake and eat it Novak, camp!

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milkyaqua · 06/01/2022 12:53

Those are temporary medical exemptions for Australians, not for visitors wishing to enter the country.

Alondra · 06/01/2022 12:58

and unless I'm very much mistaken Djokovic tested positive in June 2020. In June 2021 he was playing and winning the Roland Garros.

Alondra · 06/01/2022 13:09

@milkyaqua

Those are temporary medical exemptions for Australians, not for visitors wishing to enter the country.
Thank you for this.

I looked at the previous poster's link of healh.gov. au and didn't realise it was for temporary medical exemptions for Australians and not visitors.

Fairyliz · 06/01/2022 13:18

Sounds like they are all as dim as each other. Him for not getting vaccinated and checking the rules properly; the Australian for having conflicting rules. It’s not like Covid has only just started.

Sportslady44 · 06/01/2022 13:25

send him home.

PlanktonsComputerWife · 06/01/2022 13:26

Yes but the Australians have been such good boys and girls, they have followed all the rules, blah blah blah.

Australia also technically were within the rules of cricket when they did the infamous underarm bowl to NZ in 1981 (as no one has ever anticipated that particular form or cheating till the Australians did it).

Sometimes the rules are horseshit.

And sometimes the Australian government cocks up and one end of the dog doesn't know what the other end is shitting out, as happened here. Novak has absolutely been fucked around by the nation of cricket cheats here.

Also, the Australian army lost a war against fucking unarmed emus in 1932.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emu_War

alwayscrashinginthesamecar1 · 06/01/2022 13:31

Wow Plankton. Tell us where the kangaroo hurt you? Grin

YoureAllABunchOfBastards · 06/01/2022 13:33

@alwayscrashinginthesamecar1

Wow Plankton. Tell us where the kangaroo hurt you? Grin
GrinGrin
ElvisPresleyHadABaby · 06/01/2022 13:34

Funny when actions (or inaction in this case) have consequences, isn't it?

mbosnz · 06/01/2022 13:38

Speaking as a Kiwi, I reckon it's a bit of an own goal to bring up something that happened in 1981. It was 40 years ago, ffs. . .

JogooRoad · 06/01/2022 13:40

He has always come across as being quite an arrogant man. I think he has brought this on himself. I have absolutely no evidence for what I am about to say, but I have a suspicion that if he had kept his mouth shut he would have probably been allowed into the country with no issues. A blind eye would have been turned. Australia are obviously going to want the big names at their grand slam. Instead he chose to post quite a triumphant/cocky post on social media about getting a medical exemption.

This obviously raised the heckles of most Australians who have been living under such onerous border controls for over two years, prevented from leaving/entering for funerals in some cases...

We reap what we sow.

I liked Nadal's reaction to all this. He comes across as a humble, gentle person and far more likeable. A class act.

Livpool · 06/01/2022 13:45

Team Australia - he is an arse anyway

regthetabbycat · 06/01/2022 13:46

Objecting to vaccination is not a medical exemption.

PlanktonsComputerWife · 06/01/2022 13:50

@mbosnz

Speaking as a Kiwi, I reckon it's a bit of an own goal to bring up something that happened in 1981. It was 40 years ago, ffs. . .
I bet you're the kind of Kiwi who didn't even laugh when the Australian yacht One Australia broke up and sank, SMH.
HikingforScenery · 06/01/2022 13:50

Who gave him the visa he presented, which was then cancelled after uproar from the public? I’m guessing it was the Australian government? It’s so ridiculous.
Why didn’t they just refuse the visa in the first place?

LookItsMeAgain · 06/01/2022 13:50

@Sirzy

Australia have their entry rules. He doesn’t meet them therefore he can’t enter.

The rules can’t differ just because of who he is

100000% this!!!!

I heard Nadal coming out and saying that there are rules and you follow the rules or don't but don't expect special treatment.

Novak's team really dropped the ball on this as they applied for the wrong type of visa based on his decision not to be vaccinated so I'm completely behind Team Australia Border Force here!

EerieSilence · 06/01/2022 13:52

@Jconnais1chansonquivavsenerver - he used the excuse of having a celiac disease.
Hence the remark on breadcrumbs.

DerektheGoose · 06/01/2022 13:52

Team Australia! 🐨

JogooRoad · 06/01/2022 13:58

He is still not really being treated like everyone else though. Whilst in a quarantine hotel awaiting the results of his appeal, the judge himself asked if he had access to a tennis court (obviously not). No doubt he will get moved to some five star hotel with his own floor or private facilities with their own courts.

You or me wouldn't even be offered a shower before being escorted on to the next flight home.

HPFA · 06/01/2022 14:05

I liked Nadal's reaction to all this. He comes across as a humble, gentle person and far more likeable. A class act.

I think he and Federer have a more realistic view of who they are in the world. They understand they're rich and privileged and that at a time when "ordinary people" are suffering it looks really shit for people like them to be dodging around the rules.

One of the problems for Novak is he's surrounded by a bubble of yes men convinced he's some kind of persecuted "man of the people" - they assumed that everyone would support him and be against "the authorities."

Whereas of course everyone just sees an entitled, privileged, person boasting about what he can get away with.

mbosnz · 06/01/2022 14:18

[quote EerieSilence]@Jconnais1chansonquivavsenerver - he used the excuse of having a celiac disease.
Hence the remark on breadcrumbs.[/quote]
He what?! My dd is coeliac, and she's double vaccinated - in fact she was invited to have her second vaccine early, as it was deemed that being coeliac made her more vulnerable. That's just batshit!

Porridgeislife · 06/01/2022 14:21

He doesn’t have coeliac disease. He has a gluten intolerance that was diagnosed by a “doctor” checking his arm strength after Djokovic touched a slice of bread.

www.allergy-insight.com/novak-djokovic-wimbledon-runner-up-gluten-free-not-a-diagnosed-coeliac/

MadeOfStarStuff · 06/01/2022 14:23

He’s being massively arrogant and unreasonable.

He is free to choose not to be vaccinated, same as everyone else.

But there are consequences to choices. Not being able to enter a country for not meeting their requirements is one of those consequences. And that absolutely shouldn’t change because he’s rich and can shout louder than most people.

Thousands of Australians haven’t been able to travel to see family for 2 years, or have family travel to see them. So I have absolutely no sympathy for an arrogant prick like him who thinks he’s above the rules that apply to everyone else just so he can go and hit a ball over a net.

Tiredalwaystired · 06/01/2022 14:35

It’s amusing me that his name is No-vak. Talk about living up to your name.

Oz are right though.

Brainwave89 · 06/01/2022 14:36

He is entitled to his view. However, Australia had one of the most draconian lockdowns in the western world, and some Australians were prevented from returning to Aus for months. The idea of Novak entering without a vac is deeply unsatisfactory for most Australians. If Novak just does not fancy being vaccinated (we do not for sure know this), then Australia should not let him in.