Aibu to not like drag Queens?

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And why don’t I? To me there is something intimidating and scary in the make up, and harsh glamour, parodied until it’s ugly and I think, aggressive. I remember going to drag shows long again in the 90s and they seemed to be a bit of fun and almost innocent compared to whatever it is about ru Paul et al. Nothing wrong with a bit of dame Edna from what I remember as a kid. What’s the reasoning behind this new style I wonder, and aibu?

@TrishM80

Being a gay man was a criminal offence in the UK until the 1960s, being a woman was never a criminal offence!

Compare like with like. Being a MAN has never been a criminal offence either. A gay man still has more power over a woman.

@DickMabutt73962 Interesting nickname, so it appears we have a male trying to gaslight women into believing we are wrong for not seeing womanface for what it is. Which is what the acceptance of womanface (drag) is. Gaslighting writ large.

"Being a gay man was a criminal offence in the UK until the 1960s, being a woman was never a criminal offence!"

Women have been legally considered chattel though.

Interesting nickname, so it appears we have a male trying to gaslight women into believing we are wrong for not seeing womanface for what it is. Which is what the acceptance of womanface (drag) is. Gaslighting writ large.

Is womanface a real word ? I've never heard it anywhere except here. If I google it..pictures of womens faces just come up.

Women could still be raped in marriage until the 1990s.

@Notimeforaname

Interesting nickname, so it appears we have a male trying to gaslight women into believing we are wrong for not seeing womanface for what it is. Which is what the acceptance of womanface (drag) is. Gaslighting writ large.

Is womanface a real word ? I've never heard it anywhere except here. If I google it..pictures of womens faces just come up.

It's a word that has been used on many, many websites, forums and social media, not just Mumsnet. It's been in common parlance for several years now.

I'm finding some of the responses on here truly astounding. I knew misogynists hadn't gone away but bloody hell it's rife. Women really aren't allowed to say anything about their own rights. Just throw all our rights away. We don't matter.

People of colour would argue that white women have, and always have had, more power than black men.

[quote ClaudiaJ1]@DickMabutt73962 Interesting nickname, so it appears we have a male trying to gaslight women into believing we are wrong for not seeing womanface for what it is. Which is what the acceptance of womanface (drag) is. Gaslighting writ large.[/quote]
What about my username makes you think I'm male it's the name of a train that I found funny, from an Instagram account I follow

But because you don't understand my name, I MUST be male

@AppleJane

I'm finding some of the responses on here truly astounding. I knew misogynists hadn't gone away but bloody hell it's rife. Women really aren't allowed to say anything about their own rights. Just throw all our rights away. We don't matter.

👏👏 And now we seemingly have a gaslighting male who has joined with a vulgar name wouldn't you know it, just like the names used in drag. Way to prove our point.

@TrishM80

Being a gay man was a criminal offence in the UK until the 1960s, being a woman was never a criminal offence!

Pedantically, being a gay man was not illegal- engaging in homosexual sex acts was.

I will not insult your intelligence by thinking for a moment that you really believe women have traditionally enjoyed an advantageous position under English law.

Two wrongs don't make a right.

Yeah we're just power-hoarding dinosaurs 🦕

DickMabutt73962 Sure.... Not buying it.

@ClaudiaJ1

DickMabutt73962 Sure.... Not buying it.

🤷🏽‍♀️

@Notimeforaname and I've got another one to add to the list of things you must be if you don't agree...male! 😂

So the people most likely to feel that drag is offensive to women tend to be women ?

Hum

Guess that's ok then , it's only women who are upset

@Moolia

Yeah we're just power-hoarding dinosaurs 🦕

Can I get that on a badge?!

DickMabutt73962

Its actually getting funny now. Very trolly indeed.

Women telling other women not to think for themselves ...and to think as they do. Funny that

So dame edna is ok, in other words a white man cos playing as a woman. But something about Ru Paul - a Black man cos playing as a woman sets you on edge. Geeee.... I really wonder what it could be! I'm so perplexed! I just can't figure out the difference! Hmmm

I hope I can figure it out! I can't OP! Can you tell me what sets them both apart? I'm just so confused?

I appreciate that gay sex was illegal until the 1960s, but women were still locked up in Magdalen Asylums in Ireland until 1996 - literally locked away and made to work as slaves for crimes such as being attractive, being raped or getting pregnant out of wedlock.

Similar asylums existed in the UK, Australia and the US from the 1760s until very recently.

Let's not pretend that women aren't oppressed. And drag is perpetuating that oppression by reducing us to highly sexualised stereotypes.

Dame Edna was funny.

@heathspeedwell

I appreciate that gay sex was illegal until the 1960s, but women were still locked up in Magdalen Asylums in Ireland until 1996 - literally locked away and made to work as slaves for crimes such as being attractive, being raped or getting pregnant out of wedlock.

Similar asylums existed in the UK, Australia and the US from the 1760s until very recently.

Let's not pretend that women aren't oppressed. And drag is perpetuating that oppression by reducing us to highly sexualised stereotypes.

This!