Royal guard video kicking child in the way

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I wasn't born and raised in the UK and am not into the culture of 'tradition' but I don't understand the majority of reactions to this video blaming the parent and saying of the guards 'it's their job'.

Can anyone more enlightened explain to me why this was necessary? As far as I can see the guard is marching, not saving London from attack. I don't see why a side-step wouldn't work. And if this is a register thing then maybe future control of how close members of the public are able to get in their path

www.indy100.com/viral/queen-royal-guard-trampled-kid-tiktok-video-b1983965

Maybe we could take a moment to consider what would happen if they did break ranks for anyone who got in their way

Well, either they have a serious defence role to play in which case there should be better crowd control, barriers and be able to react to the unexpected in more appropriate ways, and probably not let their military manoeuvres be filmed by every Tom, Dick and Harry, or they're there for the tourists in which case stepping to the side isn't a huge deal.

@mathanxiety

The videos I have seen today show elderly people trying to get out of the way or marching detachments. Maybe they made the rookie mistake of treating an important terrorist target as if it were a tourist attraction that sells tickets to get in.

This also! If it has to be so heavily protected from terrorists then don't sell fucking tickets to it?

The thing that puzzles me...
If a relative posted the video, was it filmed by them?
And if so, why didn't they react before the child got knocked over?

The video wasn't necessarily filmed by the relative who posted it. It could have been posted by an onlooker who forwarded it to the child's mother. Maybe she asked if anyone had footage.

The angle of the filming and the distance from the incident would have made it impossible to react - plus who would expect the Guards to simply plough into the child?

It all happened very fast. There was an audible gasp at the time the Guard roared his order and the child was knocked to the ground. A lot of people were startled.

I’ve reported this pathetic post and so have others I see. Mumsnet isn’t Twitter such goady, causing public outrage with click bait titles and lies should be shown the door.

It was brutal and unnecessary .
Big man boots trampled all over a young child. Where does he think he is, the middle of a war zone?

Literally!!

Maybe we could take a moment to consider what would happen if they did break ranks for anyone who got in their way

Breaking ranks for 10 seconds to walk around a child instead of trampling him isn't going to get the Queen killed or tower bridge blown up.

Where the fuck has common sense gone in this country?

Plus characters dressed up in uniforms that bear no resemblance to anything people wear nowadays, parading about

Just like the uniforms worn at Arlington, then. Totally without resemblance to anything people wear nowadays.

Worn, of course by those “square jawed sentinels”. Which neatly ignores the fact that some of them are (hush, hush, whispers who dares) female

Do they have to get jaw implants before going on duty?

@MollyQueenOfSocks

Maybe we could take a moment to consider what would happen if they did break ranks for anyone who got in their way

Breaking ranks for 10 seconds to walk around a child instead of trampling him isn't going to get the Queen killed or tower bridge blown up.

Where the fuck has common sense gone in this country?

Thank you! It's nice to see some people still have common sense

Hang on you think there are rooftop snipers at the tower of London every day? 😳 I mean, I hate to burst your bubble, but there are not snipers on stag on a rooftop every day and hour. What a fucking shit posting that would be 😂 But you know who are there every day and every hour....the guards, in their functional uniform and not combat gear because last I checked London wasn't an active war zone 😂

This

These guards have been doing this 365 days a year for hundreds of years. There are many similar ceremonies where soldiers wear ceremonial dress all around the world. It's not done for tourist dollars.

But I'm sure the tourist dollars don't hurt all the same.

Are they ceremonial, thus requiring the garb, or are they a serious security force, and if that's the case, why are they still wearing uniforms that were fit for purpose several hundred years ago but may not be useful against the kind of weapons at the disposal of the average terrorist of today?

How is this marching in straight lines remotely helpful as a means of protecting anyone or anything? Surely a truly protective role would involve adaptation to circumstances? A bit of looking left and right? Maybe standing still and looking at what's going on around you?

Hold up, military! @mathanxiety is here to let you all know how it works!

For those who don't like the use of "make way" what do you feel would be more appropriate?

Hang on you think there are rooftop snipers at the tower of London every day? 😳 I mean, I hate to burst your bubble, but there are not snipers on stag on a rooftop every day and hour. What a fucking shit posting that would be

How so? Do you think a man with a hat down over his eyes, marching in a straight line and staring straight ahead is going to be much use spotting a terrorist, and if deviating from the route of the march and tackling the terrorist is going to cause immediate chaos in the ranks, how useful are the Guards, realistically?

And if London isn't an active war zone, how necessary was it to run into a young child and knock him to the ground?

Never before have I felt more surrounded by delusional, hysterical idiots than I do right now

You know you don't have to be here, right?

Maybe it should be "please Mr tourist can you get out of my way".

The guards at Arlington should do the same rather than ordering people to be quiet.

Unfortunately, the child ended up under the feet of the Guardsman, hence 'trampled'.

I am finding the hair splitting here really sad.

HE. DID. NOT. END. UP. UNDER. ANYONE'S. FEET.

He was bumped into, knocked over and then sort of hopped/stepped over.

At no point did the boy feel the weight of the soldier's feet on him.

He wasn't trampled.

Again, let's have a court room scenario. A black teenaged boy has been apprehended by the police. The reasons why are irrelevant, maybe he committed a crime or maybe he did nothing wrong at all.

He panics, and attempts to escape the police. One of the policemen throws himself to the ground in front of the boy, in an attempt to stop him getting away.

The boy has a choice to either side step to the left to avoid the lunging policeman, but there is another policeman coming at him from the left, to instead he he chooses to continue forwards, stumbling slightly over the first policeman but managing to pick his feet up high and sort of jump over him.

Anyway, long story short, they catch him and he ends up in court for whatever reason and the video is played looking exactly like this one, and the prosecution alleges this boy

'trampled on' the policeman

'brutally kicked him out of the way'

'aggressively stamped' on him.

Are you on the side of the prosecution, or are you on the side of the black boy? No 'oh but but but this is different.' No 'you are splitting hairs' no 'it's semantics. Just answer the question.

Do you see aggressive stamping?
Do you see brutal kicking?
Do you see anyone being trampled on?

Or do you see someone being knocked over then being tripped over?

Breaking ranks for 10 seconds to walk around a child instead of trampling him isn't going to get the Queen killed or tower bridge blown up.

Where the fuck has common sense gone in this country?

I agree.

People saying that the child didn’t have common sense to not get in the way - how about the grown adult has common sense to move a couple inches to the side.

Surely in training there has got to be a scenario that someone or something might block your path.
Imagine someone having a heart attack and collapsing on the floor and they just step over them without a second thought.

Even if he didn’t see the child at first, he could have at least made a gesture to acknowledge the child once he did see them.

@JabNotInArm - you seem to think that taking note of your surroundings isn't a good way to spot suspicious activity in a place you are supposed to be guarding from terrorist attack.

There really are no words..

As a sensible suggestion... maybe marking the routes with lines on the pavement so people know where the soldiers march and to keep away from when they are approaching?

The routes are cleared before hand by a beefeater.

@Watchamocauli

I’ve reported this pathetic post and so have others I see. Mumsnet isn’t Twitter such goady, causing public outrage with click bait titles and lies should be shown the door.

Can I just take this time to say that some MN users act as if MN is going to pay their bills if they report posts just because they don't like the tone of a thread. 'This is MN, not Twitter' pls just get a grip😂

Aroundtheworldin80moves It really isn't necessary. The Beefeaters clear a path and it's very obvious the soldiers are approaching as they call out and their marching is loud.

Well, I'm sure the child and many people learnt a valuable lesson.... dont stand in the way of marching guards.....

@mathanxiety

you seem to think that taking note of your surroundings isn't a good way to spot suspicious activity in a place you are supposed to be guarding from terrorist attack. There really are no words..

You seem to be willfully ignoring the many posters who have explained that they're not guarding anything at this point, they're moving from one position to another. If they're prat about to move out of the way of crowds/children getting in the way, to take photos, etc. then other areas are left unguarded. It's not hard to fathom.

@NdujaWannaDance Everybody here knows that of course. The reality is that posters such as @mathanxiety are just anti-British and will have a crack at anything that is establishment or constitutional to sully this country.