Page 17 | Royal guard video kicking child in the way

DickMabutt73962 · 2021-12-29T23:23:31+00:00

I wasn't born and raised in the UK and am not into the culture of 'tradition' but I don't understand the majority of reactions to this video blaming the parent and saying of the guards 'it's their job'. Can anyone more enlightened explain to me why this was necessary? As far as I can see the guard is marching, not saving London from attack. I don't see why a side-step wouldn't work. And if this is a register thing then maybe future control of how close members of the public are able to get in their path https://www.indy100.com/viral/queen-royal-guard-trampled-kid-tiktok-video-b1983965

ufucoffee · 30/12/2021 08:29

@mathanxiety
I didn't mean 'infant' so I said 'young child'.
Which the boy clearly is. I would put him at about 8 at most.

Nope, wrong again. 8 isn't a young child. Just a child.

TrishM80 · 30/12/2021 08:30

@Aroundtheworldin80moves

Soldiers marching around with loaded weapons describes the first 10 years of my childrens lives. They learnt not to bother them or go nearvthier dogs by the time they were out of the pushchair. Their first nursery used to take them to watch parade practice (where there were ignored until dismissed then the kids get a hug from the appropriate parent!). Thier first school had its own armed guards patrolling it. The Band of the Welsh Guards visited their second school for a week and taught them music etc. In their last home before moving out of the community, it was a Initial training base so watching out for groups of marching soldiers was like looking for cars before crossing a road.

They are normal people. The Guard is probably mortified about the whole thing. There's likely been briefings on how best to act to errant children wandering in their path. But all tourist attractions have security and visitors need to be aware.

They're not "normal people" though, are they? A "normal" person doesn't deliberately trample on a kid. Pure thuggery.

But a fancy uniform and funny hat forgives a multitude of sins.

abcdeg · 30/12/2021 08:31

@mathanxiety

He doesn't look like a 'young' child (infant).

Is 'infant' synonymous with 'young child' now?

I didn't mean 'infant' so I said 'young child'.
Which the boy clearly is. I would put him at about 8 at most.

Yes, it can be. And what is even your point- that he didn't know not to stand in front of marching soldiers?

If that's the case, it's even more of a reason for his mother to keep him close. But as I say, his own family take it lightheartedly.

For some reason posters are taking it upon themselves to be outraged and compare this to Tiananmen Square.

BlackCatz · 30/12/2021 08:31

They're not "normal people" though, are they? A "normal" person doesn't deliberately trample on a kid

They do if a kid stands in their way causing them to.

Pancakeorcrepe · 30/12/2021 08:32

I would expect a kid that age to know better.
Silly child, lax parents. This is what happens.

KeflavikAirport · 30/12/2021 08:33

I'm on team ridiculous security theatre. Who knows if the kid spoke English or had hearing difficulties or neurological differences. If it's that crucial to the security of the kingdom (hint: it isn't) then maybe don't let tourists watch the manoeuvres in the first place 🤔

Cofifeefee · 30/12/2021 08:33

So if the guards' deviating from their marching path is a punishable offence, are they really providing security?

They seem to march in a straight line, looking straight ahead. Security personnel are usually always looking around them for potential threats.

If that child was actually a terrorist decoy, would the terrorists have been put off because the soldier kept marching? Or should the guards not have checked the area for a potential threat instead of sticking to their path?

A barrier would seem to make sense from a security and safety point of view.

TrashyPanda · 30/12/2021 08:34

@mathanxiety

Do you think this man should have been mowed down too?

Using that clip to try to prove a petty point is totally insulting to the young man

In no way is a silly kid comparable to his brave and heroic act

It’s unconscionable to use that young man’s heroism to try to prove a petty point.

GoodPrincessWenceslas · 30/12/2021 08:35

For those who say the parent should have moved the child…well, they didn’t move him…should the child be punished for that?

No, but neither should the soldier. If, as a parent, you hear people shouting to make way and you don't check your child is out of their way, it's 100% down to you.

underneaththeash · 30/12/2021 08:36

Why on earth was the parent not getting their child out of the way?

They have a massive Busby on and need to keep their chin up, so can't see.

HeadNorth · 30/12/2021 08:36

I would expect a kid that age to know better.

I would expect a grown man to know better. The trouble is, putting on a uniform means blindly following orders, no matter how ill judged, ridiculous or unneccessary. Whic is why I have no respect for anyone in the forces and am not surprised by a squaddie's casually thuggery.

NdujaWannaDance · 30/12/2021 08:36

math having watched the video numerous times yourself, I am sure, are you willing to accept that the child was neither kicked nor trampled, but merely knocked over then stepped over?

You can continue to be of the opinion that the soldier should have made an attempt to sidestep the child to avoid the collision if you want.

But do you accept that language such as 'trampled' and 'kicked' is just plain inaccurate to describe what happened, and we can all see with our own eyes that it's inaccurate?

BlackCatz · 30/12/2021 08:37

Whic is why I have no respect for anyone in the forces

I'm sure they really care x

TrishM80 · 30/12/2021 08:37

@BlackCatz

They're not "normal people" though, are they? A "normal" person doesn't deliberately trample on a kid

They do if a kid stands in their way causing them to.

Normal people don't trample on children. Professional thugs do. He wouldn't be acting the hard man if it was a 6 foot 4 inch 15 stone bloke standing in his way.

GoodPrincessWenceslas · 30/12/2021 08:38

They're not "normal people" though, are they? A "normal" person doesn't deliberately trample on a kid. Pure thuggery.

No-one trampled on anyone. Look at the video, and don't exaggerate.

BlackCatz · 30/12/2021 08:38

Normal people don't trample on children. Professional thugs do. He wouldn't be acting the hard man if it was a 6 foot 4 inch 15 stone bloke standing in his way

Oh, the hysteria 😂

mathanxiety · 30/12/2021 08:38

I merely responded to @loislovesstewie's very obviously anti-American hostility, @NdujaWannaDance.

You need to look up the difference between 'accidentally' and 'deliberately'.
He was knocked over accidentally because he was standing somewhere he shouldn't have been, and then immediately stepped OVER, not stepped ON

The child was knocked over deliberately. He was seen by the soldiers. He was roared at by the soldiers, who immediately ploughed into him. Neither of them deviated from their route even by one foot even though they knew he was a child and right there in front of them. That's not an accident. It's bloody mindedness on the part of the soldiers and exceptionally poor training.

I hope this family are in fact American, and I hope they lawyer up. The entire environment looks like the setting of a completely preventable tragedy, with members of the public allowed to occupy a public space which is clearly not suitable for any public presence, either for the safety of the public or the security of the presumed targets which warrant all the 'security'.

LegoNinjago · 30/12/2021 08:39

@YourenutsmiLord

His brother pushed him in front of them - You can see the older boy backing away as it happens. How else would the boy be on a forward roll.

He absolutely didn’t

NdujaWannaDance · 30/12/2021 08:39

They're not "normal people" though, are they? A "normal" person doesn't deliberately trample on a kid. Pure thuggery.

TrishM80 I'd like to ask you the same question I just asked math

How can you even use words like 'deliberately trample' and 'thuggery' with a straight face here? I'm embarrassed for you.

loislovesstewie · 30/12/2021 08:40

Who is pearl clutching now?

SunshinePuzzlePiece · 30/12/2021 08:40

Two thoughts on this. The parents were obviously not parenting their kid. It shows lack of common sense and also lack of respect to turn away and let you kid walk around when there are armed soldiers nearby. On the other hand, this is how society is now and the whole spectacle is, like it or not, a tourist attraction. Proper safeguarding ought to be put in place to protect the spectators as well as the soldiers. Maybe it's time to quit this old tradition? It seems out of step, literally.

kittykutty · 30/12/2021 08:40

@mathanxiety

I merely responded to *@loislovesstewie's very obviously anti-American hostility, @NdujaWannaDance*.

You need to look up the difference between 'accidentally' and 'deliberately'.
He was knocked over accidentally because he was standing somewhere he shouldn't have been, and then immediately stepped OVER, not stepped ON

The child was knocked over deliberately. He was seen by the soldiers. He was roared at by the soldiers, who immediately ploughed into him. Neither of them deviated from their route even by one foot even though they knew he was a child and right there in front of them. That's not an accident. It's bloody mindedness on the part of the soldiers and exceptionally poor training.

I hope this family are in fact American, and I hope they lawyer up. The entire environment looks like the setting of a completely preventable tragedy, with members of the public allowed to occupy a public space which is clearly not suitable for any public presence, either for the safety of the public or the security of the presumed targets which warrant all the 'security'.

Are people still replying to this?

BlackCatz · 30/12/2021 08:40

@NdujaWannaDance

They're not "normal people" though, are they? A "normal" person doesn't deliberately trample on a kid. Pure thuggery.

TrishM80 I'd like to ask you the same question I just asked math

How can you even use words like 'deliberately trample' and 'thuggery' with a straight face here? I'm embarrassed for you.

Clearly trying to push their agenda 😂

OhWhyNot · 30/12/2021 08:41

What a fuss over nothing

Child shouldn’t have been in the way. He probably was a bit excited and got too close. He jumped up after all seems fine and will be a story to tell others

The royal guards at certain attractions have to deal with excited children all the time must get really tiresome

PurpleCarpets · 30/12/2021 08:42

I agree OP. SMH; it had to be a little Black boy.

How is that relevant in any capacity?

No one was hurt. The whole story is only relevant at all because it looks absolutely awful, and is a dreadful piece of PR, and that fact makes it worse, given the history of the British army. A small black child is brutally kicked out of the way, quite pointlessly, by two British soldiers armed with guns performing a pointless piece of theatre in fancy dress in front of dozens of tourists. That's how it looks. There might be archaic reasons for them behaving like this. But those defending it are sounding rather like the apologists for the lack of the Royal Standard on the flag pole at Buckingham Palace after the death of Diana.