Why does 'wokeness' annoy people so much?

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Isn't it just trying to make the world a better place but making people feel accepted no matter their race, gender etc?

It seems to wind some people up so bad - and it's usually those that are part of a majority group that gets wound up most by it (usually white/men) - is it because they feel threatened?

Whenever anyone stands up for a cause they are automatically called woke - and it's now as if it's a bad thing.

It's sad, I see people fed up with 'wokeness' as code for 'we can't get away with our racist, sexist BS anymore as people are calling us out'.

I know lots of black and asian people who will tell you that this country is still racist, but better than other places.

The police apoligised to the family of Dalian Atkinson today after the manslaughter conviction of one of its officers after they used excessive force on him.

But BLM is an American issue.

I have long suspected that whether they are consciously aware of it or not a lot of white people don't truly want racial equality. So rendering words like 'woke' a pejorative is one such crafty technique to ensure that it never happens.

The naivety on this post! Assuming a lot of white people think like this. What percentage do you think?? I'm sure I've already asked this

@MarieKlepto

What basic things do you think need addresed?

Like the fact that white people don't think there is racism and issues because of it?

@JohnHuffam1812

Its interesting that the people who are accusing the woke of being intollerent on this thread appear to be the least tolerant.

BTW can you name me an actor or artist who has been cancelled because they aren't "woke".

J.K. Rowling.

They even tried to erase her from her own film.

Its a word that has suddenly popped up and all trendy...i dont understand it and i dont understand cancel either....really not interested in any of these fads !!

Although I would argue JK as woke as per the original meaning

@WhiteXmas99

The ones I have met behave like religious fundamentalists.

Believe what I say. Do as I say. Or burn in hell.

Wow. That does sound extreme. Where are you meeting these people? Work, socially, maybe family?? Have you met many of them?

No one has said there isn't racism.

Because it supplants conversation with dogma. It prioritises feelings over reason. It makes judgements of affiliation. It denies room for shades of grey between black and white. It is a faith based code that shuns critical thinking.

It is absolutely necessary to fight sexism, racism and intolerance. And it is entirely possible and absolutely necessary to do so without being woke.

"J.K. Rowling"

J.K Rowling has not been cancelled. She still has a publishing contract, she had a book at no 1 in 2020 which sold 65,000 copies in 5 days, and another children's book launched this year.

They didn't try to remove her from her films either.

@LethargicActress

Because there was nothing wrong with plain old good manners. We do t need wokeness, we just need to get on with being polite and live and let live.

That's all well and good, and yes nothing wrong with good manners and live and let live -, the fact that racism, homophobia and transphobia exists shows that people don't always live and let live though, do they?! YANBU op, I find that if you call out any of this stuff you get called woke, virtue signalling etc - usually by people taking the huff that they can't say what they like anymore without someone taking offence -

That's not for want of trying by the younger generation ( excluded from events , bad mouthed by the stars whose careers she launched )

@IcedPurple absolutely JK. The whole quiditch argument is insane.

"It denies room for shades of grey between black and white. It is a faith based code that shuns critical thinking."

Give examples of this?

Lots of sweeping generalisations and other fallacies on display on this thread, ironic considering lots of you are mentioning the importance of critical thinking.

@JohnHuffam1812

"J.K. Rowling"

J.K Rowling has not been cancelled. She still has a publishing contract, she had a book at no 1 in 2020 which sold 65,000 copies in 5 days, and another children's book launched this year.

They didn't try to remove her from her films either.

That's because the general public still love her books and don't care for shallow wokeism.

But they definitely did try erase her from her own films. It would be impossible to do so entirely, given that she was scriptwriter and producer, but they made her name as tiny as possible in the trailer.

And mediocre actors who would be nobody without her tried to disown her.

It's not so much the cancelling of celebrities because of their lack of wokeness, it is the robotic conformity that many of them employ in order not to be cancelled.

Daniel Radcliffe, Rupert Grint and especially Emma Watson, who claims to be a feminist, are perfect examples of this.

JK Rowling is an incredibly intelligent, generous and inspiring person and I hate how she has been treated. Anyone who says she is transphobic has clearly not read her essay.

@JohnHuffam1812

Oooh ohhh woke

Lets watch MN decsend into anti trans batshittery that misundertands the process of becoming trans and blames all changes on the Labour party.

Even though the reforms to the GRA were insitigated by the Tories and are being led by a Tory MP. Who also recieves death threats and more from those ever so balanced people just trying to look out for women.

Essentially getting cross at the woke is part of the right wing culture war, they'll stoke whatever issue they want to, and provide loads of misinformation ( see above) and in order to maintain their status quo.

Yep. I don't know why I'm shocked at the level of bigotry in MN these days but it is so disappointing...

So many lazy, ignorant and narrowminded comments and I'm only on page 2.

Thanks for the few posters who have the courage to go against the avalanche of hate.

Racism homophobia sexism and agism have always existed

AND people
From every generation have fought against it

It's not new !!!

"The whole quiditch argument is insane."

and doesn't in any way "cancel" JK Rowling.

@Circlesandtriangles

It's a real problem now how anyone who cares or acts on something around social injustice is labelled "woke" and summarily dismissed and tarred with all the problematic associations with the term.

As if cancel culture and wokeness are the problems - and not the underlying racism, corruption in our political system, lack of integrity displayed by our government, violence against women and any other number of awful inequalities. It's a convenient way to distract from the issues at hand to dismiss anyone raising them as woke. Similar to how young people and their issues are all dismissed as being "snowflakes".

I hate the terms woke and snowflake. They are horrible in how they are used to shut down conversations.

Agree! "Woke" is the new "PC gone mad" as they used to say when I was younger.

Being woke or PC was actually supposed to be about being considerate about other people's experiences, especially of those who are marginalised in society or don't usually have a voice. But I find that whose who are anti-PC/woke usually see it as a threat as it questions the existing power structures and status quo. Often they are the bottom feeders benefitting from an already unequal societal hierarchy and don't want to lose what they've got.

@baffledbunny

Spot on

Give examples of this?
This is another thing I hate. Making demands for "evidence" without using any manners.

Old people hate young people trying to challenge order of things, even if it's trying to make positive change

Greenham common
The sufregettes
The protests and radicalism of the 1970s?

So called old people were the pioneers of change!

I love it when white Brits say the UK is 'MoRe tOlErAnT' than many other places. As though I should be absolutely grateful and doff my cap at them for not throwing bananas at me and calling me a monkey for merely asking where the closest station is.