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To Tell FIL To Go Back To His Own Country?

47 replies

JeremyVile · 20/12/2007 15:50

OK, yes, that's a hideous phrase but honestly, he is pushing me to as yet undiscovered areas of my psyche.

He is Spanish, lived here most of his life and retired to Spain with MIL 6 years ago.

Currently they are here for Christmas, been here a week and will be going some time in January.

So far he has announced that The English are obsessed with America, that we have no identity of our own, no cuisine to speak of, our schools are laughable, our weekly rubbish collections are 'backwards'.
The Scots (my mother) are tight (ooh, original), alcoholic (my family barely drink at all) egomaniacs.

I deal with it by ignoring mostly but have been broken by, of all things, Goose fat!

He saw some in the kitchen last night and asked what it was for, I said that at Christmas I do the roast potatoes in it. (TBH, I dont know why I do, I just do) He then commenced a massive, and very arsey, rant about the Brits having no idea about food, that olive oil was the best thing to use 'that's what we always use in my country'. Goose fat is unhealthy (true, but if we're going down that route then surely he'll be expecting boiled potatoes with his (unbasted) turkey??

The fact is, it has nothing to do with the healthier option, it is because it is not a Spanish thing and he massively resents anything that he cant skew to being about his country.

Even sodding potatoes

Oh, and to top it off his general cultural angst only really gets going from the second week of visits onwards.

Oh farkin' joy

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Blu · 20/12/2007 15:53

His own country - or anywhere, really as long as it's not near you!

franke · 20/12/2007 15:54

He sounds incredibly rude. What does your mother have to say? Not that I think she should be answerable for him in any way, but is she supportive of you?

franke · 20/12/2007 15:57

And actually, yes, you should dish up boiled potatoes and steamed fish or something for him on Christmas Day - at least that way he'll be moaning about something you know is a bit rubbish rather than the lovely dinner you've spent a lot of time and effort over. Childish I know, but I'd be tempted just as a means of saving my own sanity.

Reamhar · 20/12/2007 15:58

YNBU. I bet he's a barrel of laughs at the Christmas table. The Scots are tight alcoholics? Never heard that one before (inserts sarcasm here), but egomaniacs is a new one on me.

morningpaper · 20/12/2007 15:59

WHY ARE THEY WITH YOU FOR SO LONG?

No visitors for more than 3 nights. It's A Rule.

JeremyVile · 20/12/2007 16:00

I'm tempted Franke, sorely tempted!

Mil (English) just sort of rolls her eyes or pretends not to notice when he is being out of order. So not very helpful but I cant blame her, she probably tunes it out for the sake of her own mental health!

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GrimmaTheNome · 20/12/2007 16:01

Silly sod. Goose fat is a Frenchified thing isn't it, not trad Brit?

Make sure all the wine you buy IS spanish. Don't deliberately get crappy stuff...some of its bound to be.

kittylouise · 20/12/2007 16:01

Yep, sod him, give him something authentically Spanish for his Christmas dinner.

A bottle of San Miguel, a bowl of olives and a chupa chups lolly.

morningpaper · 20/12/2007 16:01

They need to rent a cottage

not stay with you

JeremyVile · 20/12/2007 16:02

Oh god MP, I know. It's TORTURE.

DS adores them though and that's the main thing....or something

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FioFio · 20/12/2007 16:03

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merryTissmas · 20/12/2007 16:03

erm olive oil spoils if heated to too high a temperature, it would make CRAP roasties! You need animal fat, we use lard, but dripping, goose fat, whatever will be fine!

wb · 20/12/2007 16:04

Jeremy, your post has me deeply worried.

Either you are my husband's alterego - (your FIL sounds exactly like my dad)

or, worse still, my dad is not the only 'Spain is wonderful (but I chose to live in a foriegn country and just like to moan)' pain in the arse in the world.

God, what if there are more of them?

merryTissmas · 20/12/2007 16:05

buy him a copy of Harold McGee's book, "On Food and Cooking" for Christmas, it's all in there!

choosyfloosy · 20/12/2007 16:13

Exaggeratedly agree with him. 'I so agree, I'd love to move to Spain, everything is better there, can I come and live with you for 6 months?'

Smug Europeans make me want to puke. Local German woman says 'of course we always have presents on Christmas Eve' yes, i know, interestingly different traditions, 'and of course it's much better that way' erm, why exactly does 24 hours' difference in when you hand out presents make you culturally superior?

or play this on a loop from 5.30 am Christmas Day

LittleGoldfish · 20/12/2007 16:14

I can understand the OPs predicament but how many brits go abroad and spend the whole time whingeing about the culture of that country? I hate it when you hear a brit say they want a fry up or fish and chips abroad or wheres the nearest British or Irish pub .

Lauriefairycake · 20/12/2007 16:17

You must trawl the internet for an authentic Spanish dish that's disgusting - I think (apologies to whomevers country this dish is from if not Spain) deep fried entrails in a light batter is one.

You must serve it to him very sweetly, lots of it and nothing else.

Along with a bottle of fifteen year old retsina.

That'll sort the twat out. He will never come to yours again.

youcheaplousyharpsichord · 20/12/2007 16:17

I would just keep laughing at him and pretending he is joking.
the ruder he gets, the louder you laugh.
then mention Franco.

TinyTimsGangGawdBlessUs1andAll · 20/12/2007 16:23

He sounds a complete nightmare. The open ended 'some time in January' return date must be distressing too.

Christmas reletives eh? I really sympathise. Poor you. What does your dh make of him?

(Agree with fil about out rubbish collections though)

holidaywonk · 20/12/2007 16:31

God JV, he sounds like an absolute pig. Can you leave him and MIL to do the babysitting and get out of the house as much as possible? And tissy is right about using OO for roasting - it ruins all the antioxidant properties and makes it carcinogenic.

Is it worth just taking the direct approach ('You're being very rude.')?? I must say I'd be tempted. My FIL can be a bit like this sometimes, but I've never had to suffer him for such an extended period.

Ubergeekian · 20/12/2007 16:49

Portrait of Franco on the wall should do the trick.

tribpot · 20/12/2007 16:57

Or frequent mentionings of the Armada, maybe?!

What a nightmare, just plain rude to be dissing someone else's country, esp one that he found acceptable to live in for most of his life, I note.

Since you have no idea about food, I assume he'll be cooking Christmas dinner for you, to show you how it should be done?

holidaywonk · 20/12/2007 16:59

IIRC, JV's DP's granddad did actually die under the Franco regime (I mean, died directly as a result of it - or have I got that garbled Jezza?)

holidaywonk · 21/12/2007 20:18

Are you OK jezza? Have you exploded in a big ball of fury, rioja, animal fat and root veg? Is FIL pinned to the wall with skewers fashioned from bauble shards? I think we should be told.

JeremyVile · 24/12/2007 11:23

Oh gosh, yes I am still here! No blood spilled. Yet.

(thats right about dp's grandad - 'spose it would be in bad taste to mention Franco then?? Shame, it would have been perfect - I'll go for the amount of dog shit on the pavements instead, that always has him spitting feathers).

Great ideas there ladies and I'm rather pleased to hear he is not the only militant Spaniard.

At the moment he is manically banging on about how inefficient our postal service is.

Yup cos letters never go astray in Spain

He really is an antagonistic old git. Bah friggin' humbug

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