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How am I a racist?!?

163 replies

Cinderella1 · 18/12/2021 10:48

Still a bit shaken after an exchange with someone on Nextdoor site that called me a racist. Post might be long but don't want to be accused of drip-feeding, so here it is: Original post was about the tragic fire that took the life of four young kids. A neighbour posted this:
"After the tragedy of 4 little boys died in a house fire, I will ask for any single parent which need a help with their kids for a babysitting during Xmas , I am happy to help.
I am not child minder and not insured but I am mum with two grown up boys.

Pls pls do not leave your kids alone". This person then starts asking if she's had a DBS check, etc, so my response is here: "so you think people leaving their very young kids alone for hours is less of a risk than leaving them with a neighbour? This site is not Twitter. What's next - needed a food hygiene certificate and chefs qualifications when helping in a soup kitchen? The whole world will be a better place if we got to know our neighbours better and could ask for help when needed!" , Then him: "not sure what you think your post is about? Please vent some where else where they can understand you. Me: "it's written in British English - apologies for the confusion for those who need to revisit their comprehension skills."Then this from him: "oh sorry being
Welsh I am sorry I’ve offended all you Anglo Saxons as you’ve just offended me" "Racist", "going to apologise for your racism Dora?? Or are you just an Anglo Saxon bigot???" Me: "clearly your geography is as bad as your comprehension. Wales is still part of Great Britain and English is the official language!" Him: "reported to site as clear racism. No we don’t identify ourselves as Great Britain, we obviously have our own Synedd or do you deny that??". AIBU here or is this simply insane? I am not even Anglo-Saxon btw

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ThirdElephant · 18/12/2021 10:50

I don't think anyone is Anglo-Saxon anymore tbh.

Toolatebaby · 18/12/2021 10:50

Sounds like he was being goady. Ignore him.

MaskingForIt · 18/12/2021 10:51

Bet he’s wanking off over winding you up. With people like that the best course of approach is simply to ignore them, and if you have to say anything, just say someone nice to the person offering.

Cooperjay · 18/12/2021 10:53

Nobody comes off well here

araiwa · 18/12/2021 10:54

What a waste of fucking time

Cinderella1 · 18/12/2021 10:55

I actually asked him if he isn't ashamed for derailing a thread about a neighbourly offer of help and he answered "nope" and still "I've reported you!" I have never been accused of racism and not sure whether to cry or laugh 😅

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BHX3000 · 18/12/2021 10:56

Meh, ignore. The whole exchange was unnecessary.

Wilkolampshade · 18/12/2021 10:57

Ignore ignore ignore.
Lesson learned OP. From past experience I've learnt never to rise to even the first post like this and keep replies directed to who ever is asking the question or making the post.

UserBot314 · 18/12/2021 10:57

It was a bit snarky to say British English as though that were superior to Australian English or Hibernian English, but yr biggest mistake here was arguing online!! Never bother. Say "ok" and leave it.

Bimblybomeyelash · 18/12/2021 10:57

I’d leave the site and I wouldn’t go back. It sounds full of over agro types (including you).

BurscoughBooths · 18/12/2021 10:58

So glad I deleted nextdoor within 5 minutes of installing it. What a waste of time

Cinderella1 · 18/12/2021 11:00

@**10:57UserBot314 My reply was meant to be sarcastic but racist 🤔

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Thwackit · 18/12/2021 11:01

Don’t engage with idiots. Idiots frequently call people racist, sexist, fat, ugly, thick and slags during online discussions because they have nothing more valuable to add. There are millions of them on twitter, Facebook etc etc. Rise above it!

Shiningpath · 18/12/2021 11:01

Maybe you’re not aware but there’s a strong commonality between people who put emphasis on British English, those who fly flags in their gardens and massive gammons. Your presumably innocent use of the term has led your Welsh neighbour to associate you with others who throw it around with gay abandon, usually alongside more pernicious statements about race and nationality.

meadowbleu · 18/12/2021 11:02

He was offensive and contrary but you are right, that site is not twitter, you should have left a DBS question response to the person offering help.

Always remember 'Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.'

UserBot314 · 18/12/2021 11:02

I'd just ignore it so.

I responded to something on a single parenting site once and the misogyny in the responses was horrifying. I just stepped away thinking whoah there are some keyboard warriors out there who are not overburdened with logic or intelligence and on top of that they are filled with hatred for women.

You can't engage. You'd go mad.

PickElaine · 18/12/2021 11:03

I think the way you started your post by writing 'so' started off the whole thing and then you continued it too. Your response reads as quite aggressive.

It isn't a good think to say to someone you don't know 'British English'. For a start the phrase is 'The Queen's English'.

tttigress · 18/12/2021 11:03

I don't think there is a Welsh "race", wasn't really true 200 years ago, definitely not true now.

Incidentally, a lot of the population of South Wales came from England and Ireland for the coal a steel industry. It was considerably less populated before that (I don't advise adding that to your thread!)

ArblemarzipanTFruitcake · 18/12/2021 11:04

Just a troll looking for an argument.

He was right that English is not the official language of Wales, but that could have been pointed out without trying to start a bunfight.

The whole conversation sounds a bit tedious - virtue signalling from people about leaving their children home alone and so on.

I'd leave the group and have nothing more to do with it.

PixelatedLunchbox · 18/12/2021 11:05

Sarcasm is not a good idea online either. Your initial post was fine, but starting with the British English one and needing to "revisit comprehension" ... seems you were sparring for a fight. I am not without sympathy - I frequently write and post ballsy comments, then delete them, knowing they'll only bring further pissy comments. Lesson learned. Online is a vicious swamp of late.

x2boys · 18/12/2021 11:05

I don't think any of you should be using the tragic death of four boys ," to prove a point" it's very distasteful.

SnarkyBag · 18/12/2021 11:06

To be honest anyone who gets them selves into a ding dong on the next door app has too much time on their hands. Agree people who attach “British” where it’s not needed tend to be a bit Nigel Farrage like.

madisonbridges · 18/12/2021 11:07

Op, I don't yhink you were aggressive at all. He attacked you and you were defending yourself. He's an idiot.

Cinderella1 · 18/12/2021 11:09

I obviously can't post here all his comments (plenty). My response was triggered by him (and a very few others) posting various comments previously and the nice OP feeling really hurt that her kindness was so misconstrued. How is it not relevant?

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Chachasha · 18/12/2021 11:10

You both sound awful.

His question may have been quite genuine. Has she said yes, he might have gone on to ask for help. It was a fair point even if you don't agree with it. Helping in a soup kitchen doesn't involve an adult being left with a child alone. You just leapt on him and were then incredibly sarky. Very trollish.