To think there’s no way you can wipe your bum clean?

[crazykoo124]

Born in a mixed race family with a Middle Eastern mother, I was always taught to wash my downstairs with water after no 1s and 2s. We have a built in mini shower head thing to just spray our bums clean, and before that we used to have a jug sort of thing.

I’ve always wondered, do you genuinely think your bum is clean if you only wipe?

The way I see it, if someone dropped a few drops of urine or fecal matter on my flooring at home, I’d scrub it clean and atleast use some water. No way would I give it a wipe clean with a dry wad of tissue! So how can your skin be clean….

Am I missing something? Do you wet the tissue before use?

Sorry for the silly question! Have always wondered.

@sst1234

"Are you animal? Serious question. Do you really not want to have a higher bar than other creatures on 4 legs?"

Erm... yes, I am an animal. What do you think humans are? Plants? Fungi?

I’d also like to correct a pp’s assertion that there is something wrong and freakish with people who poo at the same time every day. It’s not freakish it’s healthy and normal.

@CounsellorTroi

I’d also like to correct a pp’s assertion that there is something wrong and freakish with people who poo at the same time every day. It’s not freakish it’s healthy and normal.

Yes, my experience is that the better my diet is (i.e. higher % plant based), the more regular things are.

nc for this topic , lol. First use paper then finish off by using as many wet wipes/toilet wipes until nothing remains, like Andrex Washlets Moist Toilet Tissues (flushable, biodegradable, 100% plastic-free moist toilet tissue) or Natracare Safe to Flush, same. My parents had a hose thing fitted next to the toilet because of my dad's health issue, but I've tried and I cannot see how a person can use that on themselves properly, and without water splashing everywhere. Maybe it was too forceful? It was very forceful. And it wasn't easy to press the trigger thing less so that the spray was less forceful whilst at the same time contorting yourself/the hose/aiming it at the right place. Or is it just I'm not used to it and there is a trick to it? I don't know how people are doing it tbh, it sounds easier than it actually is. Are you sitting on the loo and aiming the hose from behind onto your butt crack? Or from the front ? I've just thought now that from behind risks poo/germs going into your lady bits and infections. But how can you do it from the front? I don't understand how you're doing it. Well anyway, I tried the water spray, it was difficult and ultimately a fail, as I checked with wipes and was not clean. I trust my wet wipes better and they're easier. Anyway, using water without soap isn't going to kill or clean germs away anyway. You need soap, like when you wash your hands etc. or it's not clean. As we all should know by now. I'm not sure if wet wipes have some cleaning/anti-bac agents in the ingredients. My mum actually refuses to have a shower or leave the house until after she has had a poo. She uses paper, wipes, and in the shower uses disposable house cleaning cloths on that area with soap obviously. She also wears disposable gloves for all this. Too much info. We have had a few arguments about her not showering/leaving the house due to this. She has OCD though. I've seen this weird thing on Twitter where some people like to boast that other people are dirty whereas they themselves are so clean because they trickle some water on their arse. And these people seem not to have heard of wet toilet wipes. I'm not sure how a trickle of water especially in a portable bottle does any good at cleaning much off, and definitely doesn't do anything for killing or removing germs. So not sure why this superiority complex and disparaging towards others happens. And please tell me people are not cleaning poo from bum with their bare hands as someone mentioned here? They're not touching their bum are they? It's not water only, is it? I wouldn't want to put that bottle back in my bag either. I also don't like the idea of a shitty arse going in a bath/shower, surely there has to be wiping first? With paper/wet wipes? I recall reading an article of someone staying in a Travelodge or the like and describing using a Travelodge kettle to pour water on their butt after pooing,. And I think the article was defending that act. How nice and considerate for other guests and their cup of tea. I never want to use a hotel/b&b kettle again. I also heard people request cups when out - I don't understand how they are using them, same with your jug, what are they doing exactly, step-by-step? Anyway, I can't do without wet wipes. Sorry to those complaining about wipes, but Andrex and Natracare state they are safe to flush, biodegradable, and plastic-free.

That's what moist toilet wipes are for

@SqiggleWiggle I can't believe I am doing a screen shot but here and yes wipe first
It makes more sense when you actually do it, and if you use a bidet bottle it has an extending bit

To answer a couple of questions,

The way the bidet shower works: you position it in a way in which the water won’t splash back at you and it doesn’t make any mess on the floor! It’s quite easy to be honest and even kids also get the hang of it quickly. Sometimes they’re quite powerful so everytime we’ve had a new one installed we always get the pressure put down a bit and I don’t press on the nozzle too hard.

I was taught to wipe with my left hand as the water is spraying but I grew out of that. I see no problem in it however as long as you maintain short nails and use anti bacterial soap after. You do feel a lot fresher after as compared to dry wiping.

I find it strange in particular that those who choose to dry wipe are the most defensive though many admit to having a shower after as well! Therefore basically the same thing as what I do (washing your bum with water). I think there’s never any harm admitting a way may be more efficient and sanitary than your own, and if after you try it and don’t like it, you can do whatever you find best for yourself !

The British way of doing many things is the best way ( not biased at all haha ) however I definitely think there’s never any harm in adopting ways from around the world if they’re of benefit!

You may not need to eat off your bum hole but never harms to have a freshly cleaned one at all times :)

Hope I have not offended anyone, was never the intention and just wanted to see what everyone else does and this isn’t really spoken about in person !

This is the funniest thread that I've read in a while 🤣🤣

I know someone who has always washed, and he says that his bum itches when he doesn't wash it after going to the loo.

I've been up brought up to use loo roll and my bum doesn't itch.

I guess it's what you're used to, but sometimes I wonder whether this is similar to the effect whereby people who over clean are more susceptible to allergies and autoimmune disorders (i.e. when body doesn't get enough exposure to normal bacteria, then it becomes hyper sensitive). Not sure.

Anyway, I do think that generally it is cleaner to wash with water, but I don't feel it's necessary. Personally I'm comfortable with the level of cleanliness provided by loo roll.

For thousands of years people had neither loo roll, nor a regular shower. Our species survived! 😂

@aurynne

Unless you're planning a sexual session with bum sex on the carts (in which case you just wash it beforehand), there is no need to have a sterile bumhole. There will always be a number of fecal bacteria around the anus regardless what we do. it does not harm us. It is normal. Humans were never meant to be sterile. No animal is. All other mammals walk around with a bit of poo around their anus. it is normal.

By the time I got to this comment I had almost given up hope that we can actually survive as a species. Are we really soaping our arses each time we crap now? This obsession with 'cleanliness' on mn is fucking bizarre. I don't know anyone in normal life that does anything more than use tissue. (actually that's a lie, I do have one friend who openly admits to struggling with OCD and anxiety and she uses wipes or poo cloths)

Human's have survived for thousands of years without daily showers, soaping our arses or antibac'ing our homes every hour. Please stop destroying the environment

[quote NMC2022]@SqiggleWiggle I can't believe I am doing a screen shot but here and yes wipe first
It makes more sense when you actually do it, and if you use a bidet bottle it has an extending bit [/quote]
Thank you lol, but I don't know if I'm dumb, probably I am since I spelled my username wrong, but I'm reading that screenshot and still not understanding it. If you're sitting forward with back slouched forward, how are you pouring from vagina backwards/downwards, how is that possible for water to get where it needs to be? How is that the right angle? Surely water will just drop vertically due to gravity and not go anywhere? I'm probably embarrassing myself but I really don't get it I give up. I probably need a video tutorial. Don't worry, I'm not asking you for that, lol. It might have to remain a mystery to me.

Don’t get me wrong, I’d rather have the option of a bidet toilet (anyone know how much this costs to install?). If its affordable, I’ll get one. However, the way I see it, no one is touching my bum hole all day in the same way as they’re walking along the floor. My bum may have bacteria on it but no actual faces (I wipe thoroughly with thick wads of paper, no way are my hands going near it).

In Greece, many places I aquatinted not only avoided bidets but also the option to flush said spoiled toilet roll, meaning public bum wipes had to be deposed in (mostly unlined) bins next to the toilet, which was particularly foul during the summer weather. This surely deserves more attention than the British way?

You know what maybe one of the issues with the metal hose thing at my mum and dad's house is that it was fitted in front of the toilet on the side of the sink unit, it's not at the side of the toilet as I'm seeing on images online it's supposed to be?. This is in downstairs loo. When you sit on the toilet the side of the sink unit is in font of your knees (not immediately, obviously) and the hose thing is attached to that. Can't explain. Maybe not a problem if you're caring for someone and helping them, but probably more difficult to use yourself from that position? Oh no, wait, it's supposed to come from the front anyway when you use it? OMG, I'm going overboard trying to understand it. Maybe my brain is broken but all I know is I tried it and it was difficult and didn't work for me. I was trying to do it by aiming it down the back from behind, which of course we actually probably shouldn't do as women. I couldn't do it anyway. Maybe I'll try again. I should probably research. And try to press the lever less or do something about the pressure.

Oh and I would love one of those Japanese toilets with all the functions, you just press the buttons and it does it all?

@MysweetAudrina

I spray it with flash bathroom and a damp j cloth.

Harpic and a stiff brush for me.

@HarlanPepper

I use loo roll and I wouldn't say my arse is surgically clean, no. But it's clean enough. It's usually covered by at least two layers of clothing, I almost entirely use it for sitting on rather than as a food preparation surface, so it's not something I lose sleep over.

This is where I've been going wrong all these years, I regularly prepare a gourmet bolognese sauce on my bum surface, the cracks' just right for holding my wooden spoon.

No, I technically agree with you OP. I prefer to shower or bathe after a number2. If I'm at home and can't for whatever reason, I'll wash the area. I always have, for reasons you mention-I've always said if my dog pooped on the floor Id not just wipe with a dry tissue, so what's the difference?

BUT, life doesn't always allow for that. What I do make sure I do is, never get into bed, go to the gym, (I do gymnastics and pole so instructor often has to be 'up my ass' so to speak) or be intimate until I've showered after a number 2.

@OhMyCrump

I've been to some of these apparently clean and hygienic countries where people are saying bum washing is the norm, and saw an awful lot of very unclean, unhygienic things! Not all the time, or in all places obviously. I can't think that impeccable bum hygiene is outweighing those things! We're pretty hygienic here in the UK, let's be honest.

Same.

I've been to some of these countries where they crow about how superior their pristine bums are to loo roll and I've seen downright appalling things wrt sanitation.

Raw sewage into water ways and people swimming and bathing in it.
People doing cleanup up trash on shorelines with bare feet and hands.
Non-existent food hygiene. Food sitting out for hours. Dead insects on it.

I think there’s never any harm admitting a way may be more efficient and sanitary than your own

Well firstly I'm not sure there's any great difference. When I shower I use soap. Plain water isn't the same.

But secondly, I'm all for hygiene as far as it serves a purpose. Clean bums are important so that people don't get sick or infected. Loo roll and regular showering achieves this, so job done.

Promoting greater and greater 'hygiene' simply for the sake of it, as if it's a desirable end in itself is all at bit 19th century,

@RantyAunty @OhMyCrump

Did you ever think that “those countries” regardless of whether they wash their bums or not, are actually poor? They work in the toughest situations to make ends meet. Yes they clean up shores bare hands because they don’t have any other means.

Actually find these comments disgusting, making fun out of poor countries hardships. Maybe the British should pay reparations to every country they fucked up with their quest for global domination?

If you have a good enough diet your bum will be clean. You shouldn't be seeing poo on your toilet roll?

I've seen people fill a jug from the tap in communal loos to take in with them.

Public loos not communal

@edenhills

If you have a good enough diet your bum will be clean. You shouldn't be seeing poo on your toilet roll?

Ha ha ha ha ha

The British diet traditionally was very high in fibre compared to other cultures.

If there is fecal residue around your anus after defecation it is an indicator that your diet is not sufficiently high in fibre.

Therefore in the UK excess washing wasn't necessary.

This is a problem that need fixed at the dinner table not in the bathroom.

I need someone to explain how toilets work in India etc! I have seen a bucket and sponge , or hose attachment.. What are you supposed to do with just a bucket of water? How do you avoid getting all your clothes wet? Surely you still need to wipe to get it off? And if just a sponge are you supposed to just...share it?

The idea is great but I lack understanding of the practicalities!

In India when I was travelling and working, we had to use the left hand method and a jug of water. Which means wiping your poo with your left hand while poring water over it. To many westerners, this was an anathema ( having to actually touch your faeces!) You are taught not to use your left hand to eat as it’s ‘unclean’. I personally preferred the paper method but this wasn’t the set up in most places and where it was, the plumbing couldn’t cope so you had to dispose of the tissue in a bucket. Not great in a really hot climate. I think different cultures probably view each other’s methods as bizarre and unsanitary just because they are not used to them.

@TakemedowntoPotatoCity see above!