To think there’s no way you can wipe your bum clean?

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Born in a mixed race family with a Middle Eastern mother, I was always taught to wash my downstairs with water after no 1s and 2s. We have a built in mini shower head thing to just spray our bums clean, and before that we used to have a jug sort of thing.

I’ve always wondered, do you genuinely think your bum is clean if you only wipe?

The way I see it, if someone dropped a few drops of urine or fecal matter on my flooring at home, I’d scrub it clean and atleast use some water. No way would I give it a wipe clean with a dry wad of tissue! So how can your skin be clean….

Am I missing something? Do you wet the tissue before use?

Sorry for the silly question! Have always wondered.

[quote Milomonster]@RedHot22 not tmi at all. I fill the bottle with warm water. After a pee, I pour the water on me. It takes some practice but works a treat (the bottles with squirter caps are the best). I then dry myself with tissue. After a poo, I wipe with tissue first, pour water and dry again. A lota (ergonomically designed jug that can be found in Asian shops) works much better as the water stream is quite targeted but I hesitate to pack this for travels and save bottled instead. Invariably, room service bin them if I forget to leave the bottle by the loo.

Before I had my fibroids removed, my bleeding was horrific. Being able to remove all the blood with warm water made me feel so much cleaner as it removed all of it. Jumping into a shower is not always practical.[/quote]
It won’t actually make you any cleaner/more germ free though. Absolutely fine to do it for your own comfort, but a bit baffling to hear everyone saying ‘oh but if you got poo on your hands would you just wipe it off with tissue?’

No, but neither would I use a splash of water from a bottle that’s been lying out. I would wash with hand soap and hot running water. It’s two different situations.

@Tan2201

That’s even worse. You get poo on your hand and you wouldn’t even wash it off even without soap. So I guess if you went toilet and there was no soap you wouldn’t wash ur hands. You would just wipe it with tissue and walk out the bathroom? Ew Wiping followed by washing even with clean warm water is cleaner then just wiping. All that defend are tissue wipers. 🤣

And wiping followed by scrubbing with soap is cleaner yet. A bath in dettol is even cleaner. A biohazard shower with full scrubbing by an outsider in a hazmat suit is the cleanest because they could reach all the parts that you can’t see/wouldn’t notice.

And yet for some reason you think splash in with water is super clean compared to wiping? It’s not. Unless you’re having a full scrub down with soap every time you go to the toilet it will make very little difference overall.

And ‘poo all over your bum’ shouldn’t be happening either way unless you’re a preschooler.

**And yet for some reason you think splash in with water is super clean compared to wiping?
It’s not a splash of water. It’s a full stream of water that can be used for a few seconds or a few minutes if you want.
Obviously showering and cleaning thoroughly with soap daily is a must but for me and many others washing even with “just water” after using the toilet is a must.

It’s not uncommon around the whole world to wash your privates after going to the toilet just not in the UK. More people in the UK are turning to wet wipes instead of just toilet tissue.

Unlike many others here. If after I went to the toilet there was no hand wash I would still use water to wash my hands and then get hold of some antibac or hand wash and re wash but water itself is better then not bothering to wash or just wiping your hands with dry tissue as some have suggested.

So I guess if you went toilet and there was no soap you wouldn’t wash ur hands. You would just wipe it with tissue and walk out the bathroom? Ew Wiping followed by washing even with clean warm water is cleaner then just wiping.

Where on earth do you think I am that I am not walking distance to soap? I can't even think of a hypothetical situation where I put my hand in shit and didn't first think of where the soap is. Where do you toilet with no soap? Why are you using bathrooms without knowing where the soap is? You'd have wet your entire hand and I guess both hands if you're trying to 'wash' them and make sure the bacteria is all over your hands and then get on with your day? Foul.

The thing is people that are wiping with tissue aren't pretending their arses are 'washed' or 'clean' by wiping. But the people spreading germy poo water around a greater portion of their body are insisting they are the hygienic benchmark we should all be aiming for. Clearly not understanding the definitions of washing, clean and hygienic. Rinsing is the word you're looking for.

Let me make this easier to understand for the non-washers:

1. You wipe with tissue
2. You wash with water
3. You dry off with tissue.

There is no germy poo water splashed around anywhere. It stays in the toilet. At no point is the poo touched or smudged around on hands and nor do you wash your bum cheeks in the process, unless you’re really inclined to.

So so stop acting so fucking precious that you wouldn’t touch this and you wouldn’t do that. Fact is, washing your bum is more hygienic than not. Plus, you should avoid rubbing soap in your intimate areas, it’s harsh. Water is natural and harmless. Why would I or anyone else claim washing your anus or vagina with soap is good? It’s not.

And YES, you do wash your hands with soap after your poo. Ffs.

We understand you like your water we just don't agree with you that it's hygienic. That's why the old way of plumbing bidets is banned. Because shooting water at your poo sprays it back at the hose. People were drinking their own shit germs. The water helps these germs get to places they wouldn't be if kept dry, it's just physics. There are plenty soaps especially made for the genital areas. It's okay that you want to put water on your bum nobody is stopping you, it's just not hygienic. And we're not terrible people for not being convinced that your preferences are more sanitary than ours.

Who’s talking about bidets? The water is going down the toilet waste pipe. No one is drinking shitty water.

It is more hygienic:

www.wellandgood.com/how-to-clean-your-butt/amp/

Australian government site promoting washing your bum every day:

www.healthdirect.gov.au/amp/article/anal-care

@EIIa

You all need a lovely Japanese toilet where you can have a lovely warm bum shower whenever you fancy. Invaluable when you have your period too

I agree OP.

Oh god yes. I really enjoyed that week in Taipei.

The Australian website says to wash your anus once a day, it doesn't say use a bidet or that it has to be straight after a poo. It also says to use non aqueous cream or no soap cleanser. That means you should be using something to emulsify the poop before rinsing it off. Be it aqueous cream or shower gel or fem fresh it doesn't matter what you call it, plain water will not remove poo which is fat based (this is really basic science).

Good anal hygiene:

Keep the anal area clean by washing with water every day. Don’t use soaps as they will reduce the natural oils that protect the anus and may make the area dry and itchy. Use aqueous cream or a soap-free cleanser instead.
Avoid vigorous wiping with toilet paper because this may cause further chafing of the skin, which can become inflamed or infected.
Avoid cleansing wipes or chemicals.

And you can keep telling everyone that they're racist or don't understand, but it doesn't change the fact that if you add water to shit without an emulsifier (soap of some kind) or disinfectant you are spreading germs around.

The big concern about bidet use boils down to bacteria and viral organisms that can be present in a bidet’s nozzle. A 2017 study of a university hospital in Japan found that 254 out of 292 bidet toilets were contaminated with Staphylococcus aureus, Streptococcus spp., Enterococcus spp., or other organisms.

Of course, if you use a bidet that has any type of bacteria in the nozzle, it’s not a guarantee that you’ll develop an infection or a virus. However, it is possible.

Bidet use may pose a particular health concern for people with vaginas. Normally, your vagina has a healthy ecosystem of bacteria called Lactobacillus. These bacteria actually work as a protection for your vagina, warding off infections caused by harmful bacteria such as bacterial vaginosis.

A 2010 study of 268 women found that habitual use of bidet toilets may disrupt healthy vaginal microflora. Normal microflora (Lactobacillus spp.) was not found in 42.86 percent of bidet users, compared to 8.77 percent of people who did not use bidets. In addition, out of the 268 women, fecal bacteria were detected in 46 of the bidet users and in only 4 of the nonusers.

www.healthline.com/health/are-bidets-sanitary#research-findings

Such a lot of unscientific and unhygienic nonsense on this thread. Just like the people that go on about needing to douche, promoting bidet use and the like actually makes women's vaginas unhealthier. A wash daily is all that's needed to keep yourself clean.

@OhPeeQueue just water on your anus is not that cleanly. If you had poo on your hands, would just water be enough to remove it? No, you would use soap.

@OhPeeQueue

Let me make this easier to understand for the non-washers:

1. You wipe with tissue
2. You wash with water
3. You dry off with tissue.

There is no germy poo water splashed around anywhere. It stays in the toilet. At no point is the poo touched or smudged around on hands and nor do you wash your bum cheeks in the process, unless you’re really inclined to.

So so stop acting so fucking precious that you wouldn’t touch this and you wouldn’t do that. Fact is, washing your bum is more hygienic than not. Plus, you should avoid rubbing soap in your intimate areas, it’s harsh. Water is natural and harmless. Why would I or anyone else claim washing your anus or vagina with soap is good? It’s not.

And YES, you do wash your hands with soap after your poo. Ffs.

Surely the ones acting ‘fucking precious’ are those insisting that unless you run water over yourself you are somehow a disgusting shit caked person who can be sniffed out in a yoga class?

I have no issue with people pouring a plastic bottle of water/spraying their bum if they want to. But realistically it won’t make a massive difference in terms of hygiene. That’s why we don’t get in the shower and just stand under a stream of warm water. Or why we don’t just put our hands under water before we eat.

You might enjoy the feeling/feel more comfortable after putting water on but it won’t make a difference in terms of cleanliness.

Take for example the pp asking how anyone manages ‘spontaneous sex’ without doing what she does, which is running water from a plastic bottle over herself.

If you’re worried about germs in the anal area before sex, the difference between pouring a bit of water and wiping will be negligible.

I still don’t understand how you wash your asshole with a normal water bottle whilst sitting on a loo.

Firstly, gravity. Do you put the bottle below your butt and squirt up? Stand up and pour down? Does it not run down your legs?

Also, you dry wipe and then touch the bottle. Do you then wash the bottle?

Born and raised in the U.K. I’ve always been uncomfortable with using loo roll alone. My mother thought that I was silly and would say ‘you don’t use your backside to eat your meal’
I still wash after a poo.

You pour the bottle from vagina down in a slow pour then use your left hand to wash your pre tissued bum. Left hand does not touch bottle. Then you dry with tissue again left hand and wash your hands.
Give it a try and report back.
I dont know how men do it though.

@RedHot22 I wish o could send you a video but I suspect that’ll not be welcome.
It really depends on the bottle. If it has a squirter cap, no though required; you squirt. If it’s a 2l bottle, a la my pic, you have to do a see-saw type motion so that the water is directed and pulsated appropriately. You are seated at all times. At no point do you squat on the seat or stand up.
I suggest you give it a try.

How the duck has this turned into a discussion about not washing hands?

Ok here is one guy showing how it's done. He has all his clothes on.

Loool!!
I do not use my left hand other than to use tissue but, yes, the hand is used by many.

@WrongWayApricot I don’t anyone is advocating spraying a jet of water up the vagina. I’ve never done and I never will. The aim is for water to pass over the nether regions rather than directed at them. Some bidets have very high water pressure and there is a risk of lacerating. Water jugs and bottles are much better.

You pour the bottle from vagina down in a slow pour then use your left hand to wash your pre tissued bum. The left hand bare breaking away the poop.
Why not use a tissue over the left hand?
I'm sure there are people men in the world who don't scrub their left hand after this method of cleaning.

Only if you flush them. In truth they are no as worse for the planet than everything we consume.

@OhPeeQueue

Fact is, washing your bum is more hygienic than not

Do you have evidence to back up this?
Cases of disease caused by poor hygiene for example in water and left hand using countries compared to dry paper using countries?

Kendodd there won’t be any evidence to back it up as there is no advantage/disadvantage to either method.

I’ve treated more people than I can remember over a few decades and the only health related issues related to poo and bums I have come across have been homeless people who are generally also hard core alcoholics who seemingly go in their clothes and sit/lie in layers of it for significant stretches of time or, unfortunately vulnerable people who are meant to be cared for and are neglected and also sit/lie in their own waste for periods of time.

I’ve never come across anyone with a health related issue stemming from the fact they wipe their bum with toilet paper, or that they use water and their hand to wipe their bum. Given this, my perspective nap preference is toilet paper rather than risking a shitty hand but really, it doesn’t matter, either way gets the job done adequately in regards to hygiene.

*personal preference. Apologies, post full of dodgy autocorrects and fat fingers.