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Do lip fillers make you mask exempt?

129 replies

LindaBlinda · 07/12/2021 17:18

Because I'm in Sarf East London and it feels as if the only people I see around here now not in masks are young women with very large filled lips.

Do masks damage the filler? Or hurt?

OP posts:
AnotherOneWithNoGoodName · 07/12/2021 20:41

[quote Justheretoaskaquestion91]@MrsTerryPratchett

It’s not about the persecution as a whole though, is it? It’s about the fact that Jews were made to identify themselves. A bit like how disabled people or those with problems requiring them not to wear a mask are forced to identify/justify themselves using a fucking lanyard[/quote]
I mean you don't need to "identify" that you are not wearing a mask. You can just not wear one. So it's not a great comparison.

CloudyStorms · 07/12/2021 20:43

I reckon 95% of the people I see not wearing masks are CHOOSING not to. I imagine most people who aren't wearing a mask are choosing not to, but the reason for this may be medical, emotional trauma etc that makes it very difficult for them to wear one.

SmellyOldOwls · 07/12/2021 20:46

@Justheretoaskaquestion91

I don't need a lanyard to say I'm exempt, the lack of mask when I walking with mask wearers surely suggests that I am indeed exempt. Why, WHY would I want or have to wear a lanyard that is for hidden disabilities just bastard I was raped and abused my sisters godfather as a child? I'm not disabled. I'm a rape survivor

This is exactly what I am talking about. I am also exempt and I have a doctor’s email that I had to obtain for travel to explain it but I am in no way going to wear anything around to show that to people because it’s awful IMO to expect that.

Yes! I don't have to wear a mask when I'm with my son as he is deaf and lip reads (I often do though - depending on the situation) but when I can't I'm not wearing a sunflower lanyard to tell the world I have a hidden disability when I don't Confused

RedWingBoots · 07/12/2021 20:49

I reckon 95% of the people I see not wearing masks are CHOOSING not to.

Doesn't that depend where you are?

If I get on a particular bus on a certain route on say a Saturday or Sunday mid-afternoon up to half the bus may not be wearing a mask. They are clearly all exempt but you would only work that out if you knew the places along the route.

FangsForTheMemory · 07/12/2021 20:49

@xenobitch, you are making this up as you go along. Jog on.

A580Hojas · 07/12/2021 20:51

I'm sure I'm opening a can of worms - but what are the reasons for people being mask exempt? I've never got into reading a thread about it before. Is it all mental health? (I ask because my 90 year old parent with severe copd - who has 3 different inhalers per day - can wear a mask for hours at a time.

XenoBitch · 07/12/2021 20:52

[quote FangsForTheMemory]@xenobitch, you are making this up as you go along. Jog on.[/quote]
You say you are exempt from wearing a mask, yet wear one anyway. So you are not exempt then. How could you have been exempt back before the first lockdown when there was not even a mask mandate then?
You make no sense at all, and I think you are the one making things up.
And all this "I am exempt but wear one anyway" gets used as a stick to beat the people who are genuinely exempt and genuinely can't wear one. Like they are just not trying hard enough.

FangsForTheMemory · 07/12/2021 20:52

Here's the RNID guidance for deaf people: rnid.org.uk/coronavirus-response/face-coverings-how-the-regulations-apply-to-you/

FangsForTheMemory · 07/12/2021 20:57

@xenobitch I've just posted a link that you might find informative. I didn't say I was exempt before the first lockdown, I said I was wearing a mask before the first lockdown. If I'm not making any sense, perhaps it's because you don't know as much as you think you do.

fruitpastille · 07/12/2021 21:03

Anybody who genuinely thinks that everyone not wearing a mask is exempt for some reason is deluding themselves.

Of course some of them are not able to wear one but loads either don't want to wear one, just don't care or believe that wearing a mask is harmful to their health.

curlymom · 07/12/2021 21:05

@Haffiana

The only people I see with no mask have no brains in their heads. You can see the light shining through.

I haven't noticed the lips though.

You are ignorant.
AnotherOneWithNoGoodName · 07/12/2021 21:08

@A580Hojas

I'm sure I'm opening a can of worms - but what are the reasons for people being mask exempt? I've never got into reading a thread about it before. Is it all mental health? (I ask because my 90 year old parent with severe copd - who has 3 different inhalers per day - can wear a mask for hours at a time.
Might be mental health. Might be cognitive (ie someone with dementia who might forget), might be physical- eg my grandfather who has a tracheostomy clearly can't wear a mask (and would be pointless if he did, as he breathes out of his tracheostomy). And even people with the same condition might have various levels of tolerance.
AnotherOneWithNoGoodName · 07/12/2021 21:09

@fruitpastille

Anybody who genuinely thinks that everyone not wearing a mask is exempt for some reason is deluding themselves.

Of course some of them are not able to wear one but loads either don't want to wear one, just don't care or believe that wearing a mask is harmful to their health.

I agree, but obviously you can't possibly know what is the case for each person.
Justheretoaskaquestion91 · 07/12/2021 22:04

@AnotherOneWithNoGoodName

I mean you don't need to "identify" that you are not wearing a mask. You can just not wear one. So it's not a great comparison

Sure but people on the thread are suggesting people do indeed need to wear a lanyard or something to identify themselves as exempt, which is my point.

Justheretoaskaquestion91 · 07/12/2021 22:05

@Orchidflower1

I most certainly am genuine and I don’t see why my post is vile but I can’t see the merit of arguing with you if you read my subsequent explanations and didn’t see what I’m driving at.

stuckinsouthafrica · 07/12/2021 22:08

Just back from SA. (Yes am in hotel quarantine) and everyone wears them all the time. Outside. Inside. Unless you're seated at a table eating.

Didn't see one person not wearing one. Ever. What is it that means South Africans don't need exemptions???

Justheretoaskaquestion91 · 07/12/2021 22:08

@GlintingFuriously

I lived in Austria for 2 years- many Austrian friends etc. I know what you are saying but my point is more about the principle of being about to order people to be vaccinated. I don’t think that’s alright.

CoffeeRunner · 07/12/2021 22:09

@Sparklfairy

Round here it's normally the trackie wearers with that distinctive swagger that says, "you can't tell me what to fackin do, fackin try it bruv".
Same here.
ShirleyPhallus · 07/12/2021 22:13

I can’t believe this thread is still running, some of the comments here Shock

Labellex · 07/12/2021 22:14

Don’t know what part of south east London you are in but most of the mask avoiders are men in tracksuits I see.

MolkosTeenageAngst · 07/12/2021 22:20

@A580Hojas

I'm sure I'm opening a can of worms - but what are the reasons for people being mask exempt? I've never got into reading a thread about it before. Is it all mental health? (I ask because my 90 year old parent with severe copd - who has 3 different inhalers per day - can wear a mask for hours at a time.
There are a number of reasons. It could be because the mask makes it difficult to breathe due to conditions such as asthma, COPD, heart conditions etc. It could be because the person cannot cope with the sensory side of wearing a mask, for example due to autism, a past trauma or extreme anxiety. It could be because a person doesn’t understand why they need to wear a mask and so can’t keep it on, for example due to dementia, a learning disability or mental health condition. It could be because wearing a mask significantly interferes with aids they have for a disability, for example hearing aids or glasses. It could be because they are supporting a person with a disability who needs to be able to see lips, such as a deaf person, or who can’t tolerate mask wearing due to a learning disability or mental health condition. There isn’t a specific list as far as I’m aware and obviously people with different conditions won’t all be effected in the same way so not everybody with, for example, asthma or autism will be exempt but some will. It’s also worth noting for some people the ability to wear a mark may fluctuate, they might be able to tolerate it one day and not another.
CoffeeRunner · 07/12/2021 22:21

I work in a GP surgery. When booking appointments the Receptionists tell the patients that masks are compulsory. If the patient replies that they are exempt or unable to wear a mask, their name is passed to one of the partners to call them & assess their exemption.

Do far two whole patients (in a large practice in the best part of two years have been agreed with that they are exempt). One is deaf so lip reads & the other is a now adult child abuse victim (their abuser held fabric over their face to muffle screams).

That's absolutely not to say we don't have plenty of patients who wouldn't be exempt - COPD for example. However those patients seem to be choosing to keep wearing a mask for their own protection.

CoffeeRunner · 07/12/2021 22:23

Sorry - plenty of patients who would be exempt.

JudgeJ · 07/12/2021 22:24

[quote GreenFingersWouldBeHandy]@ILoveHuskies

Or maybe they have a reason why they are exempt ?

Don't be so damn judgemental.

If you are exempt you can get a lanyard explaining this. It's not difficult.[/quote]
They just need to buy extra-large masks to accommodate the trout pout.

Beautiful3 · 07/12/2021 22:28

@Justheretoaskaquestion91 I agree with you 100 percent. Wearing a sign to allow society to identify you as disabled, is a step too far.