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Would you report someone to SS for having CCTV in their home

123 replies

Tilltheend99 · 04/12/2021 11:22

As it says really. And hopefully this isn’t outing.

Some extended family have cameras all over their home including bedroom.

The original reason was that the stepchildren were supposedly stealing money but they have since moved out on their own as over 16.

Don’t see them often and even less since lockdown do can’t say if cameras are currently still up.

The primary age child they share presents as fed/well clothed/articulate plus no signs of physical abuse. The whole thing was more about pfb vs scs’. Mother is very gregarious and loving. Father is classic boring bloke with hobbies but perhaps a bit odd.

So basically I have no reason to suspect anything that I would contact social services about but the CCTV has never sat comfortably with me and since reading about the sad case of Arthur I am wondering again if this alone is enough of a red flag to contact ss?

So UABU: having cameras up all over the house is considered normal now and is not enough to report or

UANBU: having CCTV removes the child’s right to privacy in their own house and you would report?

Just interested to see what other people think or if I am blowing this out of proportion.

They used to throw large family parties before Covid and no one else seemed bothered by the CCTV. (TV in kitchen so not hiding it from anyone)

I tried to find a topic to post under but couldn’t find one suitable so sorry if this is in the wrong place.

OP posts:
authenticforgery · 04/12/2021 11:26

@MNHQ make it stop.

iloveautumn3 · 04/12/2021 11:27

UANBU It sits uncomfortably with me. I'm not bothered about being on CCTV at work in the streets or a shop but hate the thought of it being in my home. If people have it in their homes that's up to them but I do not think it should be in bedroom's. What if people hack in to it and were watching you or kids. I had baby monitors when mine were in cots but not since they moved in to beds.

LittleMysSister · 04/12/2021 11:28

Why would CCTV would be an indicator of anything? [Hmm]

ComtesseDeSpair · 04/12/2021 11:28

A “nanny” or pet cam in e.g. kitchen or living room is fairly commonplace for many people; bit cameras in bedrooms and bathrooms is a huge concern. How do these children get any privacy when they’re naked? What are the parents doing with the footage / are they regularly watching it?

EmeraldShamrock · 04/12/2021 11:30

I don't think cctv is necessary or appropriate for a child's bedroom.
In other rooms not so bad if they are security cameras.

SW1amp · 04/12/2021 11:30

We have several CCTV cameras in our house, as part of a professionally installed system

If SS saw it as a red flag, they would presumably ask CCTV companies for a list of houses with systems installed and start there

On its own, I can’t see how it’s any sort of red flag

If you’re only concern relates to the tragic court case, you are being completely ridiculous

ByThePool2021 · 04/12/2021 11:33

Erm don’t all parents have baby cams in their child’s room at some point? Yes bathroom is a little dodgy but it’s quite common practise so I can’t see SS getting involved

RavingAnnie · 04/12/2021 11:33

Yabvvvvu. It's not a concern at all. And as you say yourself you don't even know if the cameras are still up! Mind your business.

ComtesseDeSpair · 04/12/2021 11:34

@ByThePool2021

Erm don’t all parents have baby cams in their child’s room at some point? Yes bathroom is a little dodgy but it’s quite common practise so I can’t see SS getting involved
These aren’t babies, though? Previously teenage stepchildren and an older primary-aged child. Different to a baby monitor.
EmeraldShamrock · 04/12/2021 11:35

SS saw it as a red flag, they would presumably ask CCTV companies for a list of houses with systems installed and start there
They would definitely consider this a red flag if installed in a bedroom.
A friend of mine recorded her sons meltdowns and how she restraints him, her neighbours reported her to SS.
She used it for evidence, she's told not to invade his privacy again and remove the camera recording without consent.

Vapeyvapevape · 04/12/2021 11:36

@MNHQ make it stop

Yes , please

EmeraldShamrock · 04/12/2021 11:37

We have several CCTV cameras in our house, as part of a professionally installed system.
In a teenagers bedroom?

SW1amp · 04/12/2021 11:37

OP, can you be clearer

You say the cameras are everywhere including ‘bedroom’ singular
Who’s bedroom?
And where are the other cameras?
If there are a few pointing at the main doors and windows, and one in the parents bedroom, that’s very different to one in every room of the house including multiple bedrooms and bathroom

vodkaredbullgirl · 04/12/2021 11:37
Hmm
SW1amp · 04/12/2021 11:37

@EmeraldShamrock

We have several CCTV cameras in our house, as part of a professionally installed system. In a teenagers bedroom?
Where does OP say there is a camera in a teenagers bedroom..?
Tilltheend99 · 04/12/2021 11:38

@ComtesseDeSpair

A “nanny” or pet cam in e.g. kitchen or living room is fairly commonplace for many people; bit cameras in bedrooms and bathrooms is a huge concern. How do these children get any privacy when they’re naked? What are the parents doing with the footage / are they regularly watching it?
Not a baby monitor a full set up with different rooms monitored from TV in kitchen. No camera in toilet/bathroom though. (Hope not anyway as have used toilet in their house)
OP posts:
TurnUpTurnip · 04/12/2021 11:40

@EmeraldShamrock

SS saw it as a red flag, they would presumably ask CCTV companies for a list of houses with systems installed and start there They would definitely consider this a red flag if installed in a bedroom. A friend of mine recorded her sons meltdowns and how she restraints him, her neighbours reported her to SS. She used it for evidence, she's told not to invade his privacy again and remove the camera recording without consent.
I'm on a facebook group for children with autism and quite a few people have cc tv for similar reasons, I was advised to get cc tv but it's not something I would do personally. I don't think ss would do anything about this
Tilltheend99 · 04/12/2021 11:42

@SW1amp don’t think there were cameras in the teens rooms but don’t remember. Was a camera in the child’s room they were around 4/5 at time so maybe would be considered by some as more like nanny cam.

OP posts:
JuicySatsuma85 · 04/12/2021 11:48

This is utterly insane. You don’t seem to even actually know what the whole set up is with the CCTV, where it is, why they have it, if it’s actually in use.

Btw people saying they don’t agree with it, that’s fine. I don’t either. But not agreeing with someone’s parenting style isn’t a reason to call SS.

diddl · 04/12/2021 11:48

@ByThePool2021

Erm don’t all parents have baby cams in their child’s room at some point? Yes bathroom is a little dodgy but it’s quite common practise so I can’t see SS getting involved
Erm really?
Tilltheend99 · 04/12/2021 11:48

Realised I have not been clear enough sorry.

CCTV in all communal rooms of house plus bedroom of child who was staring primary when I was last in their home. But NOT in master bedroom or bathroom/toilet. Don’t think it was in teens room but don’t remember. So really the concern was for this one younger child who would get no privacy except in bathroom.

OP posts:
SW1amp · 04/12/2021 11:51

So how do you envisage this call with Ss going..?

“Hi social services. I want to report a family I know. The kids are all happy, well looked after and doing well in school, with 2 parents who seem to love them, and there are no abuse concerns.
But the parents have CCTV in the communal areas of the house, so I think you should investigate them”

Tilltheend99 · 04/12/2021 11:53

@JuicySatsuma85

This is utterly insane. You don’t seem to even actually know what the whole set up is with the CCTV, where it is, why they have it, if it’s actually in use.

Btw people saying they don’t agree with it, that’s fine. I don’t either. But not agreeing with someone’s parenting style isn’t a reason to call SS.

I think the CCTV is insane lol.

They were using it to keep tabs on older step DCs

I agree about parenting style etc which is why I am seeing what peoples opinions are rather then actually just calling SS because, as I said on my op, I have no other reason to think anything is untoward other than a ‘bad feeling’ over the use of cameras.

OP posts:
TokyoDreaming · 04/12/2021 11:53

Get a life OP for fucks sake.

toomuchlaundry · 04/12/2021 11:54

If you have CCTV in your house surely you only have it on when you are not in the house, for security reasons

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