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AIBU?

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Would you report someone to SS for having CCTV in their home

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Tilltheend99 · 04/12/2021 11:22

As it says really. And hopefully this isn’t outing.

Some extended family have cameras all over their home including bedroom.

The original reason was that the stepchildren were supposedly stealing money but they have since moved out on their own as over 16.

Don’t see them often and even less since lockdown do can’t say if cameras are currently still up.

The primary age child they share presents as fed/well clothed/articulate plus no signs of physical abuse. The whole thing was more about pfb vs scs’. Mother is very gregarious and loving. Father is classic boring bloke with hobbies but perhaps a bit odd.

So basically I have no reason to suspect anything that I would contact social services about but the CCTV has never sat comfortably with me and since reading about the sad case of Arthur I am wondering again if this alone is enough of a red flag to contact ss?

So UABU: having cameras up all over the house is considered normal now and is not enough to report or

UANBU: having CCTV removes the child’s right to privacy in their own house and you would report?

Just interested to see what other people think or if I am blowing this out of proportion.

They used to throw large family parties before Covid and no one else seemed bothered by the CCTV. (TV in kitchen so not hiding it from anyone)

I tried to find a topic to post under but couldn’t find one suitable so sorry if this is in the wrong place.

OP posts:

Sparechange · 04/12/2021 14:06

@toomuchlaundry

If people have CCTV on in their home, do you sit and watch it all the time, otherwise what is the point of it?

I’ve never sat and watched it other than maybe to watch our dogs when I’m at work at a bit bored on a long call

I am required to have it by the police as a condition of having a gun licence
They told us where the cameras have to be positioned and that means they film inside and outside the house

The police also know we have DC in the house so would be mighty weird if SS started investigating me for child abuse when the authorities not only know about the cameras but mandate them to be there

wrappedupforchristmas · 04/12/2021 14:07

Reported

EveryFlightBeginsWithAFall · 04/12/2021 14:12

Op doesn't even know if there's a camera still in the child's room.

Anyone with an alexa could drop in and listen to their kids conversations if they wanted too.

I don't think many people would but surely thats a lack of privacy concern too.

TheVolturi · 04/12/2021 14:13

@wrappedupforchristmas

Reported

For?

toomuchlaundry · 04/12/2021 14:17

@Sparechange I assume you don't keep guns in bedrooms so don't have cameras in there. And if some reported someone for having cameras then I assume if it was taken further it would be investigated why, and if a good enough reason and not an invasion of privacy it would be fine

ivfbabymomma1 · 04/12/2021 14:22

@BungleandGeorge well yes this has definitely made me think that by his 3rd bday I'll absolutely get rid of it ☺️

peaceatlastnot · 04/12/2021 14:28

I think the cctv by itself may not be a cause for concern (although I would hate to live in a house with cctv all over!). But if you have a funny feeling about either of the adults living in the house then that might be a concern. Depending what their behaviour is like etc

Sparechange · 04/12/2021 14:29

[quote toomuchlaundry]@Sparechange I assume you don't keep guns in bedrooms so don't have cameras in there. And if some reported someone for having cameras then I assume if it was taken further it would be investigated why, and if a good enough reason and not an invasion of privacy it would be fine[/quote]
Well I can’t tell you where I keep the guns

But OP has said the only bedroom that might have a camera is a young child. Nothing unusual about that…

Mind boggling that anyone would waste the time of any social services with such a pointless report though. These things have to be followed up

If CCTV was an actual red flag, there would have been threads about it for years

But the ONLY reason this thread is here is because of what came out during the trial of poor Arthur
So this isn’t a thread about a legitimate concern, it’s a thread about knee jerk reactions

Hmumoftw0 · 04/12/2021 14:34

I have a camera in DD5 room its not running constantly but I can go on the app and see her when I want to, as far as privacy I dress her so?

julieca · 04/12/2021 14:41

At 5 she will be slowly learning to dress herself. By the time she can, I,O the camera really needs to go.

EveryFlightBeginsWithAFall · 04/12/2021 14:41

I bath and dress my 8 year old because he needs the help. I still think he deserves some privacy in his own room though. I'd hate to think I could be being watched at any time in my own bedroom it's weird once they get past the toddler years (unless for safety reasons)

toomuchlaundry · 04/12/2021 15:05

Why does a 5yo need a camera in their room? It really isn’t the norm to have cameras in bedroom, even in a young child’s

BungleandGeorge · 04/12/2021 15:09

[quote ivfbabymomma1]@BungleandGeorge well yes this has definitely made me think that by his 3rd bday I'll absolutely get rid of it ☺️[/quote]
Well yes if he’s advanced enough to start primary school when he turns 3 you probably should

godmum56 · 04/12/2021 15:13

@toomuchlaundry

Why does a 5yo need a camera in their room? It really isn’t the norm to have cameras in bedroom, even in a young child’s

how do you know what the norm is? are you the norm police?

ivfbabymomma1 · 04/12/2021 15:19

@BungleandGeorge well no he's not but still

Bitofachinwag · 04/12/2021 18:11

@Hmumoftw0

I have a camera in DD5 room

its not running constantly but I can go on the app and see her when I want to, as far as privacy I dress her so?

Does it use wifi? In that case someone can hack into it.

You are also getting your child used to it being normal to be constantly watched. Would you want someone to watch you constantly? Imagine what could happen
when these children who think constant surveillance is normal grow up.

thewhatsit · 04/12/2021 19:35

In bedrooms is a different thing, but general cameras I think is not abnormal now.

I was out with a quasi- friend for coffee the other day, she couldn’t get hold of her husband (who she knew to be wfh) so checked the security cameras in her home to locate him…

julieca · 04/12/2021 20:02

I would hate cameras in my home.

SW1amp · 04/12/2021 20:22

@julieca

I would hate cameras in my home.

And I would hate cats in my house

But that doesn’t make it a Social Services situation when they are present

toomuchlaundry · 04/12/2021 20:27

I hope people tell guests if they have cameras on in their house

Evergreenblue · 04/12/2021 21:12

OP you better not watch this then

julieca · 04/12/2021 21:35

I have a middle-aged male relative. When we were all over for a family party one relative caught him watching footage of his nieces playing together in a room. He was in his bedroom and Aunt just walked in without knocking. No one had known there were hidden cameras.

hotmeatymilk · 04/12/2021 22:20

Judging by this thread people with CCTV in their houses are really, wildly, irrationally angry.

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