To think the Tories have given the middle finger to the people of Britain yet again?

[Iamnotminterested]

On the BBC News website. Apparently 'dozens' of people attended a Christmas party at no.10 on 18th December last year, when London had just entered tier 3 lockdown rules. Boris, who it's quoted wasn't there, says no rules were broken

What did Mark Spencer do?! I’ve never heard of him.

He's not any old corrupt and abusive Tory, he's a....

I broke the rules in London last year after seeing all my neighbours leaving & I'm glad I did now!

No, I don’t really think I’ll get my wish list this year or ever but it is true that I don’t vote according to the MP’s personal lives. And the pandemic was an unprecedented situation so I don’t think there was any possibility of anyone making a success of it. Who makes a success of a pandemic anyway. If I were PM it would have been a disaster. And I usually think I have ALL the answers… However. I want the government to have learned. Hindsight is 20/20 and I want them to not just do a big repeat.

It would be great if we had two centrist parties. I could choose to vote left of centre. But I can’t vote Labour at the moment for reasons I won’t bore myself listing. But I would be so keen for an option that wasn’t the least worst. I want slightly higher taxes. I want good social care. I want women to be allowed to keep the rights they fought for, I want entrepreneurs to keep enough of their profits to keep them motivated to grow their business and not just Chuck it in and work for the Man. I would have said only Labour would introduce furlough if you asked me in 2019. I found the support of furlough and grants pretty socialist. I want Covid to not being a spectre. It’s a giant turbo charged cold that kills the vulnerable. It should not be allowed to bankrupt us as a nation when we stuck our neck out and did well at the vaccination bit. And Boris’s drinks parties are not relevant to how I vote. Hope they all get it from their own silliness and have to do the governing WFH. But it doesn’t affect my vote at the next election.

but it is true that I don’t vote according to the MP’s personal lives.

But, to be strictly accurate, this would have been technically breaking the law. So I’m not sure the “private life” defence really works.

@FOJN

But imagine the horror if Corbyn or Starmer had been found out to have had two people over.

Corbyn was photographed holding a dinner party during lockdown, yes there was "horror". To me it just proves there are lots of people who think the rules don't apply to them.

It is unacceptable for Johnson to claim no rules were broken, that's clearly a lie.

Yes I think it's more a case of the elites vs the plebs than anything.

Obama had a massive party not so long ago, and many celebrities have been caught out too.

Boris is, of course, still a twat. A lying twat.

@SusieBob

"I couldnt care less."

And this is why we have a shower of absolute twats in charge.

What would make you care? You can't see why people might have a bit of a trust issue with the government at the moment?

this

for those who couldn't care because you want to focus on current issues, isn't previous behavior the best indicator of future behavior?

What in previous behavior indicates they are capable of or care about fixing any current issues?

Which one of them is making any effort to address the chronic longstanding issues with the NHS?

@Everanewbie

Hi OP. I am a life long Tory voter. I agree with their low tax, controlled spending ideas, and feel that they attempt to balance welfare with incentivising work. Especially in recent years I have found the Labour party to be completely unelectable with their anti UK stance on everything, obsession with Isreal and identity politics.

But I'm done. To think that this lot were having parties while police were arresting people for having a walk with a coffee, and benches were being taped off, playgrounds were closed, schools closed, sports cancelled, pubs closed, aisles in supermarkets closed off, i could go on. And Hancock having it off with a colleague while it was illegal to meet my mother.

Absolutely screw you and your covid rules. And I'll never vote for this lot as long as Boris and co. lead.

Yeah, yeah, yeah ...

It doesn't matter. I can't get annoyed by someone else's Christmas work do a year ago.

To a pp so you are done with them because their ineptitude actually affected you personally but you were quite happy to see services cut to the bone and 'work incentivised' ? Says it all.....

Whilst you are worrying about this type of trivia the country is falling apart at the seams. We are in desperate need of some leadership not this nonsense. If you want to get mad at the government get mad on behalf of the women and kids that are being slaughtered on our streets or the migrant crisis that see babies drowning in our waters or the lack of decision over the biggest health crisis of our age or rich people buying up housing stock so that there’re no homes for local people in Cornwall or that their green strategy is a red herring.

This is just piffle and Starmer should rise above it, grow some and start making some noise on what really matters.

We shouldn’t even know what a bunch of toffs did behind closed doors last year. They’re always up to that sort of thing. What does it matter? It’s just distracting from the real stuff.

The rules don't apply to Johnson and his chums.
Except for always being a lazy, lying cunt. He sticks to that one.

(I rarely get deleted but this might be one ).

I don't think people who vote for the tories are stupid. It's a far more calculated vote. They know that work incentivising policies won't hit them, neither will cuts to social services. But they do know that there will be tax cuts of various types and the 'scroungers' will be punished.

@DerTrotzkopf

I don't think people who vote for the tories are stupid. It's a far more calculated vote. They know that work incentivising policies won't hit them, neither will cuts to social services. But they do know that there will be tax cuts of various types and the 'scroungers' will be punished.

Well then they really are stupid because the Tories don't actually cut taxes much at all and when they do the benefits are only for the mega rich.

Anyone who technically breaks the law can be prosecuted and I support that. But in the context of Covid and Christmas parties, it doesn’t affect my vote. I understand that this view will enrage people and that not everyone thinks as I do, but I weigh other things heavier in the five years between elections. Rightly or wrongly. Even people next door keeping me awake from their illegal Christmas parties didn’t really annoy me. I didn’t give their house so much as an angry look the next morning!

Whilst you are worrying about this type of trivia the country is falling apart at the seams. We are in desperate need of some leadership not this nonsense. If you want to get mad at the government get mad on behalf of the women and kids that are being slaughtered on our streets or the migrant crisis that see babies drowning in our waters or the lack of decision over the biggest health crisis of our age or rich people buying up housing stock so that there’re no homes for local people in Cornwall or that their green strategy is a red herring.

Why do people think you can’t be mad about more than one thing? Not that I would say I’m especially “mad” about this.
I can give you a long list of things I think this government has screwed up, including the things you’ve mentioned. Thinking Johnson shouldn’t have broken lockdown rules doesn’t prevent me from caring about drowning migrants. I didn’t vote for him and never would, this is just another reason for my low opinion of him. It’s not as important a reason as others, but still, any criticism he faces for it is deserved. And if this is an issue that reduces his vote, then good.

Because too much air time and energy is being wasted on trivia. ‘Don’t sweat the small stuff’. It’s embarrassing watching Karmer try and get one over the tories. There so much he should be doing, but isn’t. Priorities!

@MynameisWa

Whilst you are worrying about this type of trivia the country is falling apart at the seams. We are in desperate need of some leadership not this nonsense. If you want to get mad at the government get mad on behalf of the women and kids that are being slaughtered on our streets or the migrant crisis that see babies drowning in our waters or the lack of decision over the biggest health crisis of our age or rich people buying up housing stock so that there’re no homes for local people in Cornwall or that their green strategy is a red herring.

This is just piffle and Starmer should rise above it, grow some and start making some noise on what really matters.

We shouldn’t even know what a bunch of toffs did behind closed doors last year. They’re always up to that sort of thing. What does it matter? It’s just distracting from the real stuff.

Yes, the country is in desperate need of leadership.

Not the kind of leadership that says "don't mix outside your household" and then proceeds to hold a fucking party.

Of course it fucking matters.

They get away with it for the same reason they overwhelmingly win elections. People don't care. The only reason anyone is outraged is because they want to get away with this behaviour too.

The one thing covid has taught me is it's stupid and naive to think people are nice and care about others.

We could have had a different direction and a fairer country, but protecting your own pay packet is more important to most people.

Being outraged by stuff like this is pointless.

It's so depressing reading people saying they don't care about things like this or that being outraged by it is pointless.

We should expect better. We should, as a basic standard, expect the people leading the country to be decent, honest people who want the best for the country rather than being a shower of absolute cunts who have proven time after time that they shouldn't be trusted to run a bath, let alone the UK, and they they prove, as the Tories undoubtably have that they can't we should use our votes to get the fuck rid of them

But here we are, with an apathetic electorate who prefer to be led by a moron with funny hair.

Oh, I care. I just find being outraged pointless.

We had a chance in the last election to vote for a party with a manifesto that would mean change and a fairer country.

But here we are. If people genuinely cared about the Tories pulling these stunts they wouldn't have a majority.

If any of them thought the rules made a difference then they would also follow them.

Obviously the government think the rules don’t make sense and therefore don’t follow them. I guess they give the plebs some sense of order and something to hang on to.

I can’t understand why anyone believes a word any of this shit shower spout.

@Stellaris22

Oh, I care. I just find being outraged pointless.

We had a chance in the last election to vote for a party with a manifesto that would mean change and a fairer country.

But here we are. If people genuinely cared about the Tories pulling these stunts they wouldn't have a majority.

except that most people didn't vote for this shit.

If it was 'most' then why do they have a majority?

Plus people don't care enough to get rid of first past the post.

Tory HQ must be desperate with the number of minions they’ve instructed to write ‘nothing to see here’ and ‘they’re all as bad as each other’ posts.

Hope they pay a decent Christmas bonus for this effort.

The ‘nothing to see here’ works though.
Every shit storm is met with it, within days we have “moved on” because they point blank refuse to discuss it and then they’ve fucked something else up so we move on to shouting about that and then they fuck something else up and we move on to that one.