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AIBU to think there is often really terrible advice on here?

291 replies

Ahmadame · 30/11/2021 18:17

I mean, people suggest completely random shit and then get quite indignant if an OP says they won’t be taking it.

I don’t know if it’s just me but I regularly see weird suggestions on here, or suggestions that are clearly unworkable (like ‘home school your kids’) and I sometimes don’t know if they are serious or not.

What’s the worst bit of MN advice you’ve seen?

OP posts:
PurpleDaisies · 03/12/2021 09:17

@bonfireheart

Actually the truly worse horrific advice is on the weightloss boards and competitive under eating, I stopped reading after a poster said she regularly went without food for three days, and was recommending it to others.
I agree. I think there are a lot of posters with eating disorders who like to have their disordered eating validated or enjoying encouraging others in a really unhealthy way of eating.
Bluntness100 · 03/12/2021 09:29

@WomanStanleyWoman

Oh, and "always trust your gut" is terrible advice.

Any mention of ‘spidey senses’ also makes me mentally dismiss a poster.

Me too. I never understand the whole trust your gut thing.

We all know plenty of people have mental health issues, jealousy, paranoia, anxiety , intrusive thoughts etc, and the last thing they should do is trust their gut. Yet people post it like if you think it it must be true.

WalkingOnTheCracks · 03/12/2021 09:34

“OP, your husband is having an affair.”

“There’s no reason to think he’s having an affair.”

“Then he’s very good at it.”

QuickSandSickSand · 03/12/2021 09:51

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YANBU

I posted a thread the other day (now deleted as there ended up being quite a lot of identifying info) asking for advice on changing social worker - long story short, exH has been accused by a member of his family’s child of showing her a naked picture of a woman. Initially he was accused of doing this at a particular party, first I heard of it was when 9yo DD said “Lucy said dad showed her a rude picture at Beth’s party last year”. Bearing in mind I was driving, I nearly crashed the car but my immediate panicked and confused instinct was to say “he wasn’t even at Beth’s party last year as it was also YOUR party that day”. I also gave a statement to police saying the truth which was I never had any previous concerns about exH. Since then, there’s been no arrest but exH went for a voluntary interview, and social services have imposed conditions whereby he has his usual EOW contact but with MIL present and no overnight visits.

Anyway fast forward to now and my SW is thick as pig shit, gets SO many things wrong, doesn’t listen at all and is saying it’s a ‘concern’ that I have ‘defended exH’ in my statement (I haven’t, I just stated facts as I knew them at the time) and used the above 2 examples - even though I’ve complied with everything, made it clear that I am supportive of their imposed supervised-only contact and that depending on the outcome of all this I am happy to withhold contact if he is proven to be a risk. My AIBU asked about how to change social workers, and I mentioned that I had a child protection conference coming up.

Cue oodles of posters telling me “STOP CONTACT NOW” - even though I said that could damage me further down the line if no further action was taken but exH then took legal action against me saying I was alienating the kids (look at the active threads at the moment whereby this exact thing from problem men is rampant in a system that doesn’t support women). Not to mention it would be genuinely distressing for my kids when a safe alternative arrangement was in place. I was told I was minimising and therefore I’d absolutely have my kids taken off me in the very near future, some people told me I’d deserve to lose them if I didn’t cut exH out RIGHT NOW (aka go against social services plans) and some said to basically say to SW that I believe his guilt and that I never want him to see the kids ever again. Some told me that my children had DEFINITELY been sexually abused and I was failing them by not coaxing a confession from them (I’ve had the conversation and I know my kids and believe them when they say he’s never hurt them). One prick of a poster even said “Go on then just lose your fucking kids” when I stated that I wouldn’t be refusing to send them to supervised visits. Other posters with alleged experience of the family court said “go to court [not even going to fucking court over this] and INSIST to the judge on contact centre only contact” (ha as if it works like that) and another poster said, when I mentioned I was worried exH was a genuine suicide risk due to past MH issues, that my kids would be better off if he was dead. Bear in mind, no arrest had been made, the only time they could pinpoint him being around this child since she was a baby was a time he wasn’t even present as he was with me and I’d had no suspicions at all, ever, about him and he’s whilst he may have done it he also may NOT have.

Someone also amusingly said - after I pointed it was SS themselves who imposed the supervised-contact plan until the investigation is either over or something is found - - “social workers aren’t your parents, they don’t tell you what to do, you have to figure out what’s best for your kids and if you get it wrong then they WILL be removed from you.” Confused so basically saying if the plan social services made doesn’t work it’s MY fault?!!!?!

Anyway it’s a good job that I’m thick skinned and didn’t cave into the insane scaremongering of “you WILL lose your kids even if you cut contact with exH and no further action is taken, they may as well be gone now” and listened to a few amazing posters who were actually social workers and have me some brilliant advice (and told the scaremongers onto STFU). Honestly it’s like people want others to suffer.

Anyway had the conference on Wednesday and kids are on a child in need plan - the ‘lowest’ possible outcome. No intention whatsoever to move to the stage to remove kids, I think the IRO in the meeting wondered WTF I was going on about when I asked about that. All agencies happy with me and confident my children are safe wherever they go.

So many catastrophisers on here who need a hobby.

Kebabandchipsplease · 03/12/2021 09:55

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sonjadog · 03/12/2021 11:02

"No" is a complete sentence. Only if you want to seem rude and weird it is.

The cutting exchanges where the OP will come out on top. Those will only work if you give if you hand the other person their lines in advance. Otherwise you will most likely seem like a complete fool.

Blocking people. I know no-one who goes around blocking people like posters on MN seem to.

FirewomanSam · 03/12/2021 11:06

@sonjadog yes to all of these! Also the advice to give a ‘head tilt’ (whatever the fuck that is) and say ‘did you mean to be so rude?’ I would love to meet someone who does that in real life, it sounds hilarious.

And the advice to ‘block, delete and move on’ on every dating thread. Sounds good in theory but we all know nobody actually does that.

QuickSandSickSand · 03/12/2021 11:30

I'm a paramedic and the amount of medical threads with posters advising totally inappropriately to call 999 (as if the ambulance services nationwide aren't screwed enough at the moment)

Further to my post about my exH, I mentioned because he’s a genuine suicide risk I was checking in with him via text every day to basically check he isn’t dead! I was told that would result in my Children’s removal and if I was worried he’d committed suicide to call an ambulance Hmm

MurielSpriggs · 03/12/2021 12:54

"No" is a complete sentence. Only if you want to seem rude and weird it is.

And even then you've totally misunderstood English grammar and the meaning of "sentence".

Kinko · 03/12/2021 13:20

The amount of people who actively encourage people to leave their spouse because of one argument, or some character flaws, or because they did a bad thing. Or cut family members out because of a sarky comment.

SSOYS · 03/12/2021 13:45

The number of threads where someone asks for practical advice on a specific issue and instead receives a patronising lecture on why she shouldn't have that issue at all. There was a mad one recently where someone asked for recipe suggestions for a meal at her boyfriend's flat and received pages of patronising people yacking on about useless men, LTB etc etc, which were completely irrelevant to her situation.

ABCeasyasdohrayme · 03/12/2021 13:54

@SSOYS

The number of threads where someone asks for practical advice on a specific issue and instead receives a patronising lecture on why she shouldn't have that issue at all. There was a mad one recently where someone asked for recipe suggestions for a meal at her boyfriend's flat and received pages of patronising people yacking on about useless men, LTB etc etc, which were completely irrelevant to her situation.
There was a book one a few months back, the poster was buying a book for her mum (I think) and said she likes X genre of books and there was a really angry poster who just couldn't accept these were the types of books ops mum liked at all, they got really annoyed about it.

There was another ages ago telling an anecdote about a funny incident at an operation, happened to mention the surgeon was male and loads of people had a go at op for even mentioning it "And what's the relevance of the surgeon being male??????" 🤣 some people just like a whinge.

MoonRiverLaLaLa · 03/12/2021 14:01

"Just talk to your GP/HV if you're feeling overwhelmed with your baby. The help is out there if you need it"

Like, that are they gonna do?

notacooldad · 03/12/2021 14:10

The number of threads where someone asks for practical advice on a specific issue and instead receives a patronising lecture on why she shouldn't have that issue at all. There was a mad one recently where someone asked for recipe suggestions for a meal at her boyfriend's flat and received pages of patronising people yacking on about useless men, LTB etc etc, which were completely irrelevant to her situation
Oh God yes!!!
Years ago I mentioned something about cooking my husband's tea. Honesty you would have thought I was sleeping with the enemy.
No one seemed to realise that
1, I like making the tea
2 I dont have to make it. Dh will do it if I don't feel like it. He is never bothered if nothing is made.

3 I have loads more free time than he does
4 Dh does loads of stuff to make my life easier and as nice as possible.

I only wanted a bit if advice about cooking a piece of chicken or something because I dont normally cook chicken.
If I listened to the posters I would have thought Dh was a selfish, demanding arse who demanded tea on the table and I would question 'what exactly does he do for you' and taken myself of for a spa day after I've ltb!!!

PinkyPromises · 03/12/2021 14:18

Yeah I remember one YEARS ago as the poster was asking for packed lunch ideas for her husband.

She liked doing it, had the time etc etc

But by the end of the thread she'd been told she was being abused and shouldn't do anything for the poor guy ever again.

Simonjt · 03/12/2021 15:17

@PinkyPromises

Yeah I remember one YEARS ago as the poster was asking for packed lunch ideas for her husband.

She liked doing it, had the time etc etc

But by the end of the thread she'd been told she was being abused and shouldn't do anything for the poor guy ever again.

Ha similar happened to me, after a few ‘interesting’ replies I pointed out that my partner has a severe physical disability that limits the use of both his hands and arms. I also love cooking, and actually I see me doing all the cooking as a bonus as its something I really enjoy I’m also a feeder
PinkyPromises · 03/12/2021 15:20

So annoying.

I think if the OP had asked for lunch ideas that travel well she could have got some good answers. People just went nuts. Odd.

onceandneveragain · 03/12/2021 16:38

@hangrylady

When people say 'No is a complete sentence' if the OP is asking how to get out of doing something. It is not a complete sentence and just saying No, without any explanation will just make you look rude and weird.
technically agree but I think the thought behind it, e.g. not needing to provide an explanation is good. e.g. it's okay to just say "Oh I'm sorry no, I can't," and that's not rude. It's only a small minority that would be bolshy enough to then demand 'why,' and even then you can be vague and say "Ah it just won't work,' or 'I won't go into all the boring details.' If they press yet again they look a bit unhinged. So it's helpful for people like me who think others always deserve detailed explanations as to why you don't want to do x.

I think people here often give advice that is too insular. e.g. about weddings, 'Do whatever makes you happy it's your special day,' and Christmas 'Ignore MIL moaning Christmas is for you and your little family,' etc. A lot of the time it's good to put yourself first and women don't do that enough, but at the same time (TAAT, sorry), if you don't invite family to your wedding or see them at all over christmas, don't be surprised if they are then hurt/upset/annoyed at you!

I also once tried advice to condition then shampoo my hair - terrible idea!

onceandneveragain · 03/12/2021 16:49

@BookFiend4Life

I see a lot of suggestions to "go part time" to solve various problems. No job I've ever had would have let me reduce my hours, and in many cases people usually need all their income? I'm in the US so maybe it's more common in the UK but part time jobs are not thick on the ground here.
I think this is a different countries thing then, as yes it is very usual in the UK to decrease your hours, and in fact all employees have the right to ask for flexible/part time working hours. The employer doesn't have to agree to it but they must explain (and give a good reason not just "we don't want to) if they don't. It's very very common everywhere I've worked for at least one parent to reduce their hours after having a baby.

As a PP has said it often can work out financially better after you've paid less tax, NI, student loan, childcare fees, travel costs etc, and sometimes get additional benefits. It's not a fix all but it's not a stupid suggestion for people to look into it, as until they do they won't know if they and their specific circumstances would benefit or not.

BookFiend4Life · 03/12/2021 17:08

@onceandneveragain
Ah I stand corrected! Yes cultural difference then. I don't actually know anyone that works part time! It would be nice if that were an option, I would do it in a heartbeat.

BiscuitLover3679 · 03/12/2021 17:12

@bonfireheart

Actually the truly worse horrific advice is on the weightloss boards and competitive under eating, I stopped reading after a poster said she regularly went without food for three days, and was recommending it to others.
I second this. It's so messed up.
QuickSandSickSand · 03/12/2021 18:08

I completely agree about the advice about sassy replies.

Another thread recently a poster was worried about going to a wedding where the man who raped her as a child would be the best man and lording it up. The amount of ridiculous replies that either told her to go the the police (like it’s that easy to just have the mindset to go!) or to give a cutting reply. One person said go up to him with a piece of paper that says “Leave now, or I will announce to everyone here what you really are and I will go to the police”. Some people seem to think others live in Eastenders

FirewomanSam · 03/12/2021 22:53

Actually the truly worse horrific advice is on the weightloss boards and competitive under eating.

Oh yes yes yes. A million times this. Anything weight related gets a wide berth from me here, it just enrages and depresses me too much.

Stuckhere2021 · 03/12/2021 23:09

The ones where advice is given out via a very middle class lens and loads of assumptions eg in 10 years your DC will be at University and you can return to your career then…..make your snoring DH sleep in the spare room etc etc. Also - when people ask “why are you doing your DPs washing” as if people can’t work as a team and help each other. And advice to basically chuck DC out the second they turn 18 unless they are a cross between Mrs Hinch and Nigella Lawson.

WalkingOnTheCracks · 03/12/2021 23:20

Those ‘chuck the kid out’ replies really upset me.

People come here asking how to help a troubled child, and arseholes suggest abandonment as the best course of action.

It’s a version of ‘well, I was regularly beaten right up until my teens and it never did me any harm. In fact it made me the person I am today.’

Well, yeah. Obviously.

Jesus…

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