Sorry, but I don’t completely understand what you’re saying. It’s not ok for a comedian like Frankie Boyle to mock disabled people. But it’s ok for GC to tell DF to rot in hell after she died because she deserved it since she insulted him first, more than two years ago.
I think you're being disingenuous but I'll repeat what I've already said.
You think that Frankie Boyle saying horrible things about people is OK because you think he's brilliant and a comedian. Whereas you don't like GC because he's a privileged, publicly educated, white guy so you think what he says is disgusting. As I've detailed before I think that stance is unjustifiable. Both of them have said nasty things, excusing one because you think it's funny and ignoring how hurtful it was to others, is wrong. Rebecca Adlington gave an interview on how his words affected her long after.
I’d you dish it you have to take it even if you’re dead and it exacerbated the grief of your family.
Yes, if you dish it out, you have to expect it back.
I criticised GC for saying what he did. It was unpleasant and unnecessary. Its not something I would ever do or would like my friends to do.
And you don’t read The Times or follow him on Twitter anyway. Are you a massive fan of Amazing Hotels then?
I don't do twitter and I don't buy newspapers. I read online newspapers but The Times is pay per view.
I saw two episodes of Amazing hotels. I remember the South Africa one because of the relationship between staff and owner so it stood out to me.
I wouldn't have remembered it was GC but I recall the presenter was OK and elicited nice interviews . I'm not sure if watch AH2 but I might.
Why do you care? GC seems a strange person to want to defend if you’ve got no skin in the game.
I don't care about either GC or DF, nor do I really know anything about either of them. So I'm not interested in defending either one. I care about fairness and your posts are very unfair. I didn't like how you labelled them both. They're both competent human beings and shouldn't be defined by a childhood they had no say over. I don't like your contention that it's OK for women to take potshots at men but if men fight back, they're abusing their privilege. As a woman if I pick a fight with a man, I don't need the poor little woman defence. I'll make my argument on my intellect, and it's up to me to defend it, not other people to say oh but she's a working class woman, be nice to her.
Further, I didn't agree with your defence of Frankie Boyle whilst condemning Giles Coren. It undermined your argument. Your belief is that you personally can define who can say nasty things: comedians, the working class, women, etc. And you can also decide who can't say nasty things: white, publicly educated men, who have the privilege of being alive. I fundamentally disagree. People need to rake responsibility for their own actions.
Although I agree that the timing and content of his comment was misplaced and nasty, DF made the first tweet. He then felt he was at liberty to tweet back. Because that's what happens on twitter. Things are never solved, they just degenerate further. People lose all sense of civility because they're posting into a void rather than speaking to someone's face. It's an ugly place.