Do you remember Heather Mills?

[LucilleBluth]

I have been watching the Beatles documentary and got to thinking about her.

She was in the papers constantly in the 2000s, I remember her being painted as an absolute con artist witch. I googled a few articles about her from the time of the divorce. They are brutal in the misogynistic tone, she’s labelled as a slag, a goer, ex prostitute, you name it.

I don’t think papers write about women in such hash terms anymore. Maybe she was a bit of a twat, whoever married Saint Paul would have suffered at that time I think.

I suppose by AIBU is are the press less misogynistic.

I love reading
About people’s thoughts on paul and John.

@Mouseonmychair I expect my parents, including my dad, to fund the same level of lifestyle for me as a child, that he has.
I don't agree that its fine for a divorced father to be a billionaire, and expect his child to live a far less lavish life than he does.

When John died, Paul was cornered by the press, and asked for a comment. He rather clumsily replied "Drag, isn't it? Okay, cheers, buy-bye".
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_John_Lennon#Lennon's_associates

He made a separate deal regarding Beatles royalties. He earned a higher royalty rate on Beatles records than George, Ringo or John , www.rollingstone.com/music/features/beatles-to-sue-paul-19850228#ixzz3wwDxssIs, resulting in a law suit by the other two and Yoko.

I think he is a misogynist and not a nice person.
www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-413217/McCartney-marriage-tapes-exclusive--Linda-wanted-leave-Macca.html

www.beatlesbible.com/1968/07/20/jane-asher-announces-her-split-from-paul-mccartney/

Paul sent his kids to state schools, julieca. He wanted them to be able to relate to other people, not exist in a gilded cage. In his divorce testimony, he made it clear that he wanted that for Beatrice as well, but her mother had other ideas.

It’s not about ‘lifestyle’, it’s about values. Paul’s a billionaire, his kids were always going to enjoy enormous privilege. But he wanted them to live in the real world, to be able to speak to the postman without looking down on him. I find that admirable, but perhaps it’s a generational thing?

@EYProvider Except Paul was not the resident parent. So it really just comes across as him being tight.

@EYProvider

Paul sent his kids to state schools, julieca. He wanted them to be able to relate to other people, not exist in a gilded cage. In his divorce testimony, he made it clear that he wanted that for Beatrice as well, but her mother had other ideas.

It’s not about ‘lifestyle’, it’s about values. Paul’s a billionaire, his kids were always going to enjoy enormous privilege. But he wanted them to live in the real world, to be able to speak to the postman without looking down on him. I find that admirable, but perhaps it’s a generational thing?

Yes exactly. All her needs were taken care of and the settlement enables them to live very comfortably. It is not essential that a child flies first class just because her divorced father does. Paul and Linda brought their children up to be as normal as possible. They lived in a farm in a remote area of Scotland most of the time. Why should Beatrice have been brought up in luxury?

You obviously know nothing about his relationship with John, julieca. I watched that TV clip the night it happened. A reporter shoved a camera in his face and asked him what he thought about the murder of his creative partner, his best friend since he was 15, his musical soulmate. The reporter wanted him to break down on camera for everyone’s entertainment and he wouldn’t do it. It was about as appropriate as someone shoving a camera in Yoko’s face - exactly the same in fact. He was broken and in shock, and you cannot judge him for how he reacted in that moment. It’s beyond cruel.

He isn’t tight, and his kids adore him. That speaks volumes to me.

Paul and his family lived on a large farm in Kintyre with staff. Yes, it wasn't a luxury Los Angeles mansion, but it wasn't a small workers cottage on a scrap of land either.

"The 7,360-acre Carskiey Estate forms the Mull of Kintyre, which former resident McCartney sang about with Wings in the 1977 hit song.

Now the estate, which includes the Edwardian Carskiey House and nine miles of coastline, has gone on the market.

Estate agents Strutt & Parker are selling the property for offers over £2.95m."

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-11510428

The 9 bedroom house. www.carskiey.com/carskiey-house/

@EYProvider I wouldn't expect him to break down. But just a very sad, or devastating one-word answer would have been fine.
I don't think John seems a very nice person either.

No one had the right to expect anything of him in that moment, julieca. We don’t tell other people how to experience or express grief, no matter how famous they are or how well we think we know them. His grief was his - it was a private thing. The reporter had no right to intrude on it, and you have no right to judge. It’s really really nasty.

And his house in Scotland might be a 7360 acre estate now, but it was a two bedroom shack when he moved into it with no running water.

Anyway, it’s clear that your values are very different to mine, and it would seem, Paul’s.

Paul bought a 3 bedroom house on a farm to reduce his tax bill.

www.beatlesbible.com/1966/06/17/paul-mccartney-purchases-high-park-farm-kintyre-scotland/

It was Linda that suggested doing it up, and from then he went on to buy more land and the much larger house on the estate.

There is nothing wrong with buying that land and houses, but you seem to be buying into the myth that they lived in a ramshackle cottage for years and brought up the family there. That is not true. All big celebrities have myths created about them by their PR and the media. This is a fairly innocuous one, but it is a myth.

I remember not liking her at all but I'd no sympathy for Paul McCartney, HM was decades younger and I thought if he's stupid enough to believe she loves him for him................ then he's just making an ass of himself. Which he did. But seems all ok now.

I remember Heather Mills because she went on those TV shows despite having a disability. I thought she was brave to take part, but amazing to do so well.
I have never met her or Paul McCartney so cannot comment on things I know nothing about.
I hope if she reads this awful thread it will not upset her too much

The papers very much witch hunt certain women today, they may not use foul language.
My first thoughts opening this thread was the incident with the ring getting fired out of a hotel room.
High profile relationships aren't worth the hassle.

What point are you making, julieca, and why is the size of Paul McCartney’s house so important to you?

@EYProvider because it is being argued that it was fine to give Heather Mills a lower divorce settlement because his own family lived simply.
I think Paul was tight and simply wanted to protect as much of his money as possible. I don't think it was anything to do with his young daughter or what she needed.

24 million, Wow.
He was a fool in love not protecting himself.

And yes Paul sounds tight here.
www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-176645/Stellas-school-days.html

@EmeraldShamrock he is a billionaire, £24 million is pocket change.

I was thinking about her the other day because the video for A Wonderful Christmas Time was on TV, with Paul and Linda fooling around and having fun, and I was trying to remember how long it was since Linda died and he met Heather. It always seemed to me that he was desperate to remarry having been so happily and stably married before. I’ve known a few widowers move on with what seems like indecent haste, but it’s really driven by their positivity about the institution of marriage which actually says a lot about the deceased wife.

On another (shallow) note, F Shackleton looks quite hot with wet hair

he is a billionaire, £24 million is pocket change.
If he'd have had a prenuptial agreement she might have gotten £24,000.
Is DD set to inherit, I'd assume he pays maintenance for his DD

Sorry, julieca, but we clearly live on different planets.

I’m sure Beatrice has enjoyed a fantastic childhood. I expect the 24 million covered it.

@GreenClock so does the fact that most widows do not tend to remarry speak out about their view of marriage?

I met her and spent a few hours with her as her minder at a charity event just after she was announced as Paul's girlfriend.
I thought she was very personable.
However I think she was proven to be a bit of a fantasist and her relationship with Paul was pretty tempestuous- lots of rowing and throwing rings out of windows.
There were a lot of yachting rumours too which I think Paul managed to squash.
She said he physically and emotionally abused her iiirc.