in being upset (pissed off) with parents who bring their obviuosly sick children to the nursery?

[QuintessentialShadowOfSnowball]

Shouldnt a child that is coughing his guts out be home? Or with rosy red feverish cheeks? Why do some parents think it is ok to lumber nursery staff with children so ill they need carrying around all the time? Why do they think it ok to keep passing on the germs to other peoples children?

She really is something special. Lots of the other CMs, I know, wonder, but she really is good. She has been going to the school where DS is for 25 years, dropping other children (and her own off)

She wears sensible brogues and pushes an old silver cross, she is just lovely.

Mumzy2f,
Of course you cant do anything about that, I know there are illnesses which are contageous before they break out. But the issue is really the comfort of the child as well as passing on the bug.

At the Christmas party at my sons nursery, one of the children were really ill(2 1/2 year old). She was carried around the entire time by a staff member, who were carrying trays of food serving the other children. She was coughing her guts off all over the platters that the other kids were eating from. I find that shocking.

sorry, I got that wrong, should be mumzyof2

mumzyof2 - I think this thread is referring more to sickness/diarrhoea bugs and parents taking their kids back in without giving the sufficient 24/48hrs clearance.

Well thats just ridiculous, how any mother would blatently ignore that their child was very ill, but still send them to nursery is beyond me!
Who would do that?
Some people, eh?
However, my point was to the people earlier in the thread, that were slating people for sending their children to nursery with coughs and colds.

BTW, iv read all the thread, and sickness/diarrhoea wasnt atually the main referal regarding illness, it was in fact colds.

I'm not referring to kids with their heads in buckets being dragged to school - I'm referring to kids who have been sent home the day before for throwing up and are back in school/nursery the following day!

I guess I'm in the minority here but if either of my dd's are vomitting I keep them off for atleast 2 days afterwards - until such time as they are eating a proper meal, have an appetite and keeping it down. Diarrhoea - same applies and until they pass a normal stool. And in both cases when they are well enough, have plenty of energy and appear fit and well to return.

No I said coughing and spluttering and rosy feverish cheeks as that is the most obvious sign a child is ill. I had that particular child in mind who was carried around, and two lots of calpol was not bringing the temperature down, when writing the op. But am equally concerned with all sorts of contageous illnesses (my youngest has just recovered from a d&v bug). I said early on I was not concerned with "just a cold".

Sorry, I jumped to last page as Daphne Harvey, questioned my use of the word "use"

Just wandered in to see..............

mumzyof2 - 'ridiculous' - yes, I agree, it is ridiculous that some parents send their kids to school/nursery knowing they are poorly and unfortunately it is the case.

Mumzy - if you can be bothered, please go back and read my posts one more time. It is just beginning to irritate me a little bit that you are not taking any notice of what I'm saying. And with that am off to bed.

Night Daphne!

Good Night Daphne!

Goodnight QS (I'm heading off to bed - way past my bedtime!) - no doubt I'll come back here in the morning and I'll have been called this and that but hey, that's life! xx

Most nureries do understand that the majority of children are there because their parents are working. IME they do not call at the drop of a hat unless a parent has specifically said so (if the parent is working from home that day, for example, and knows their child was borderline ill at drop-off time.)

It therefore seems completely wrong to have to repeatedly phone a parent to ask them to collect an ill child. I also can't understand how a parent who has received such a call can carry on working, anyway. The thought of my child feeling rotten would make me unable to concentrate on anything else.

But if you know your child is 'borderline-ill at drop-off time' why take the child to nursery in the first place?

LGJ

Strides in, takes the opportunity to wave at B99, then leaves again.

Hello my wonderful friend.

Because borderline means just that, borderline.

A cold type sniffle thing can either stay as just that or develop into something more very quickly.

Exactly whispy!!

But then we sometimes say " ifeel crap but I've taken 2 anadin I'll see how I go " as adults don't we?
The children can be the same. A dose of calpol just perks them up & they keep going so it's worth risking it sometimes. I don't have a problem with that as long as they agree to come if the child droops later & I make sure that's agreed on the doorstep on the day!

And children (and adults) usually pick-up several cold viruses during the winter. Some have more impact than others. I would be hard-pushed to think of a time when none of my four children have had a runny nose during the winter.

BB. That's it exactly. It's the slow-to-pick-uppers who are the problem.

God this thread is depressing.

Of course it's wrong to send a sick child to nursery. (By sick I mean sick, not just a cold.) But the venom directed at working mothers who are in a no-win situation is horrible. Most working mothers who send their kids to school/ nursery when they are sick are eaten up with guilt about it, but as Reallytired earlier said, we live in the real world where you can't just take your employer to court (what a ridiculous flippant remark) if they make your working life miserable because you have kids who, surprise surprise, get ill sometimes.

What they're doing is not right, but let's have some understanding of why they're doing it, eh? And let's direct our anger to where it should go - towards a society which deosn't value childrearing and a workplace which makes it nigh on impossible in some jobs, to function fully both as a parent and as a worker. (I speak as one of the very tiny and privileged minority of people who has been lucky enough to have more or less always had a pt job where I can just take time off and work from home if my children are ill. But most people can't.) It's never very constructive to blame individuals for responding to structural problems. I'm not saying it's OK, it's unfair on everyone, but I think indignation should be directed to where it belongs.

Oh and by the way, I haen't read a single criticism of the fathers who allow their sick children to be left at nursery. How comes they're not selfish and inconsiderate? How comes all the focus is on mothers here?

God yes- the amount of loo rolls we go through just for noses is phenomenal!!

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