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AIBU to end my relationship with my fiance over his exs behaviour woth DSD?

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NatureWalk · 19/11/2021 00:53

This could be a long one sorry!
Background: I live with Fiancé (F) my 3 children from a previous relationship (8,5&4) and dsd is 50/50 between us and her mum (A) and strpdad(B). A & B also have a 2 yo together (C).

A is self diagnosed with several MH issues but doesn't receive help amd has no formal diagnosis. Some background on As parenting. Dsd has breathing issues, in the winter a cold goes straight to her chest and she's been in and out of hospital because her oxygen levels drop really low and she needs oxygen. A has only once been to hospital with dsd it used to be just F and then me and F after we met. Once A refused to ring an ambulance and we had to drive over and ring an ambulance for dsd and she was rushed into hospital. Drs said at that point dsd was close to having to be ventilated her breathing was so bad.
A also never bothered to potty train dsd, we did that and every time dsd came back from A she'd be in a nappy again. A treats dsd like a baby, she dresses her, puts her shoes on, tidys her room, only stoped feeding her baby food jars when she was 3 and we insisted she stopped (which was a huge row). Dsd comes back from A talking like a baby (pointing at things and going uh uh rather than using words). Dsd has epic tantrums when she comes back from A, if she's asked to dress herself, tidy her room, eat her tea etc she'll scream that mummy never makes her and we are horrible to her, she'll even lie on the floor and kick her legs yelling I'm a baby I can't do it. The worst ones are when she says she'll never be loved or happy again. School have picked up on these (they happen daily at school too) we got called into a meeting which A refused to attend with us and went at a later date. School is eriously concerned and actually had a teacher who specialises in child psychology sit in and observe dsd. We are still waiting for the report back about that.

F and I live across a county border from A, dsd was registered with a Dr near us. Its a great Dr they really go above and beyond. Dsd has some food issues, if its not beige she won't eat it. We work hard on getting her to try new foods but a lot of veg makes her gag or even vomit. A won't get her to try anything amd feeds her the same few meals over and over because "it's too stressful" trying to get her to eat. We spoke with the gp and hv and they were working to set up some classes etc to help dsd over come her food issues. Then after an argument between F and A, A moved dsd drs without telling us so everything the gp amd hv had set up stopped as it was in a different county.
A is insistent dsd is autistic which is why sje has food issues and uses it as an excuse (sje can't correct dsds bad behaviour because it's autism, she can't get dsd to try new food because it's autism etc). Dsd is the most outgoing child I know, she makes friends easily, she is smart, clever and funny, she loves cuddles and is very compassionate. Every time we mention to school/gp/hv etc that A thinks she's autistic they outright say they have never seen anything to make them even consider autism. To us it's just another excuse for A not to parent.
A never takes dsd out, even as a baby when F & A were still together ot was up to him to take her to baby groups etc. When dsd comes back to us and we ask what she's been up to it's always watched tv/played on the tablet. What's worse is when sje says mummy was going to take us to the zoo/Park etc but didn't feel well sonwe didn't go. Dsd Hates plans changing because of this if we say we are going somewhere but stop off somewhere else before hand dsd will scream that we arent going where we promised, that we are horrible etc, even if we explain we are going there next.

Anyway on to the main problem, I've tried loads to help F sort problems with A, I've contacted citizens advice, mediation, and even social services. I've offered to use our wedding fund to get a decent solicitor to help but F keeps putting things off and refusing to take steps to sort the issues or he'll start and then A will calm down so he'll stop and say he doesn't want to rock the boat while A is being reasonable.

If F & A have an argument A will block his calls and refuse to tell him how dsd is doing and on occasion has threatened to keep dsd away from us.

The main problem at the moment is I have covid (only found out through a lateral flow for work but then went downhill and have been really rough for over a week). The day we found out F let A know and sje started screaming at him that we knew before dsd came over and had kept it from her which is not true. She then said she didn't want dsd back until my 10 day isolatin period was up because she didn't want C to get it. Dsd was obviously upset sje won't see her mum for 10 days. So my mum has been taking dsd the 30 min drive to school (then driving back to get to work) amd then doing the same to pick dsd up as F doesn't drive and I cant leave the house. Today mum couldn't get to school until 10 mins after pick up due to work so we convinced A to pick dsd up amd wait in the car park the 10 mins until my mum could get there. Dsd has developed a cough but she's had a pcr and is given a lateral flow every day before school which are all negative, ots a chesty cough to do with her breathing, her inhaler makes a difference and she doesn't have a temp etc so school are happy for her to go. So today dsd actually gets to see her mum but coughs and F receives a horrible phone call with A yelling dsd has covjd and now C will get covid and die and when that happens I'll hold you responsible. F tried to call her down but A hung up and blocked him. Dsd got upset asking why her little brother was going to die. We calmed her down when she got home and me and F went off to talk about As behaviour away from the kids.

I told him I'd had enough and he needed to do something and actually do.it not start it and then stop when A calmed down as this whole situation isn't fair on any of us especially dsd.
F then just flipped out and started yelling that I was supposed to support him and I wasn't being supportive I told him i was trying but finding it increasingly difficult and I'd actually questioned our engagement because I didn't know if I could be tied to As crazy behaviour for the rest of my life. F yelled if thats how you feel ill go to my parents. Hes taken dsd and left (hours ago) and I told him if he can't talk like an adult without running away then I'm not sure I want to marry him. Befor he left he said some horrible things including that I was a bitch to dsd that i treat her differently to the biys, that I'm vile to him and don't support him. That I didn't do anything for him while he was ill with a sickness bug a few weeks ago and he's had to do everything while I've had covid (which isn't true I did everything while he was ill). I'm seriously questioning the future of our relationship if every time A is difficult F takes it out on me.

AIBU?

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Rissole · 19/11/2021 07:18

This is your get out of jail free card.

I would be grasping it with both hands.

All the problems are not of your making and they will snowball over time too.

Rainbowqueeen · 19/11/2021 07:18

Yes I would end it. The important people here are the kids and they are being shortchanged by this situation. He needs to focus on his DD and you need to focus on yours.
Also his idea of conflict resolution is woeful. Threats? Yelling at you. Saying horrible things. You deserve better

JustLyra · 19/11/2021 07:19

Any man who doesn’t go for full residency when the other parent refuses to call an ambulance for their child is lacking as a father imo.

Walk away from him if you can. He’s never going to do anything more than he’s doing to protect or help his daughter.

And the way he turned on you is disgusting.
Threatening to leave every time you disagree is also no way to live.

Cut your ties and have a more peaceful life with your boys.

Dontforgetyourbrolly · 19/11/2021 07:20

Yanbu . Where are your kids in all this ?
The time has come to put them first

Eddielzzard · 19/11/2021 07:20

It all sounds awful. YANBU. He treats you badly and should be getting his DD out of there. Very upsetting. This must have an impact on your kids too. I would be leaving.

Willyoujustbequiet · 19/11/2021 07:28

You sound incredibly frustrated and that's entirely understandable but I do think much of the blame can be placed on your partner and not the ex.

It's a red flag where a man leaves a child in the care of a parent he believes to be abusive. If he genuinely feels there is an issue there is no excuse to not to try and seek residency.

Also imo schools know next to nothing about ASD. I have dc with a diagnosis and it took thorough assessments through CAMHs with a multidisciplinary team. Not just a one off visit. Children with ASD can be very loving, affectionate and friendly. The fact that you say sdc hates plans being changed and gets very upset is telling. I wouldn't be so quick to rule ASD out. It can take years to get a diagnosis.

Your problem is your partner is not a good father unfortunately.

MyOtherProfile · 19/11/2021 07:32

Whatever happens next I hope this is a wake up call to F.

Sunshine1066 · 19/11/2021 07:57

I really feel for you OP. I don't have any wise words other than to say that I have ASD and the psychologist who did my assessment also had to give me an extra screening tool because some difficult (for want of a better word) mother-child relationships can manifest as ASD-type symptoms in a child, even though it isn't ASD when assessed holistically. I wasn't aware of this until I did my assessment.

If your fiancé isn't willing to step up then I think you are making the right decision for your kids as well - as your DSD gets older this will affect them more.

AnotherMansCause · 19/11/2021 08:00

I'd end it. This man can't even be bothered to stand up for his child. He certainly will never stand up for you.

Fireflygal · 19/11/2021 08:38

If you end the relationship then you will save yourself heartache for years to come.

Go over to the step parents board, many women end relationships for less issues than you have. Can you imagine how HD will cope with the teen years?

CurzonDax · 19/11/2021 08:45

How is all this affecting your own children?
They need to be considered in this too, not just your DSD.

Soontobe60 · 19/11/2021 08:47

[quote NatureWalk]@OldWivesTale she's been seen by someone at school to rule out autism. Most of the issues come from her mothers behaviour (I'm her step mum). If she does have autism that doesn't matter but it's her mums behaviour in all this thats not helping the situation. Her mum hasn't spoken to the school/gp etc about her worries over autism just keeps throwing the word around it was me and F who approached the school and the school who bought in a child psychologist. We are still waiting for the report back about their findings.[/quote]
To get a diagnosis (or rule it out) she would have to have been seen by a paediatrician in clinic, not by someone in school. She may well have been observed, but that’s not the same thing at all. Assessing for ASD is a long, involved process, and quite rightly so as it’s such a complex condition. I am a SENCo in school with lots of experience. I might say that I don’t see signs of ASD, but I would always refer to CAMHS or a paediatrician for a formal assessment.

NatureWalk · 19/11/2021 09:29

@Soontobe60 the assessment is just the start of the process we are waiting for the report and the next steps.

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NatureWalk · 19/11/2021 09:30

F is not accepting its over. I told him its best if he just concentrate on dsd for now.

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SnowSurprise · 19/11/2021 09:47

I agree with Any man who doesn’t go for full residency when the other parent refuses to call an ambulance for their child is lacking as a father imo.

10yearwarranty · 19/11/2021 09:56

Disentangle yourself now before you have a child with him.

Staryflight445 · 19/11/2021 09:59

You do come across a bit unnecessarily judgemental op.

Lots of kids will only eat beige food, many would rather starve than try something else. You can persistently offer but it’s always stressed that you give them at least something you know they will eat. You’ve said yourself she vomits when she try’s things like vegetables which can’t be helping this problem going forward, patience is important.

Not everyone wants to go to baby groups, they’re not essential and not for everybody.
Parents who don’t constantly go out aren’t abusive either.

The potty training stuff and baby talk is weird but my 4 yo persistently comes home from school and does this so you can’t really just be blaming mum for this.

What exactly are you expecting social services/ your partner to do?

Staryflight445 · 19/11/2021 10:00

The ambulance stuff is the most seriously concerning thing in all of this and your partner still hasn’t don’t anything to protect his daughter.

JingsMahBucket · 19/11/2021 10:11

@NatureWalk

F is not accepting its over. I told him its best if he just concentrate on dsd for now.
Just keep repeating yourself. @NatureWalk whose house is it? Are you renting or do you have a mortgage?
MzHz · 19/11/2021 10:23

@NatureWalk

F is not accepting its over. I told him its best if he just concentrate on dsd for now.
He doesn’t have to accept or not accept it, this is not something he has any choice in.

You’re making the right decision

Put yourself and your kids first. Walk away.

Contact her school, explain what’s going on and ask them to keep an eye/maybe make a SS referral.

Your kids need you, YOU need you!

NatureWalk · 19/11/2021 10:45

@Staryflight445 I might be judgmental but you don't have to watch a 4yo come back from her mums in a complete state every single time. Imo never taking a 4yo out isn't healthy. And a child can't live off chicken nuggets. We were getting help with her food issues until A stopped it

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Staryflight445 · 19/11/2021 10:56

Many kids live on chicken nuggets op, without lack of trying.
Even dieticians don’t like forceful parenting when it comes to helping these issues.
You’ve had your step daughter trying stuff to the point she’s been sick, that isn’t remotely healthy or great parenting either is it.

She’s not your daughter, you’ve got far too involved. Her mum parents differently to you, the only concern here is that she clearly is a bit lazy and completely lacking in ability regarding her health needs. (lack of potty training, not calling an ambulance when necessary) but everything else is just your opinion and the judgement isn’t helping anyone, particularly not your step daughter.

Staryflight445 · 19/11/2021 10:59

The fact that your fiancé’s mum put their daughters health in such danger and he hasn’t even done anything to try and protect her from this happening again, speaks volumes too.

Staryflight445 · 19/11/2021 10:59

Fiancé’s daughters mum’

Allsortsofroses · 19/11/2021 11:02

I've seen similar on here before.

They are a cluster fk mess. They .. they are disordered and dysfunctional.

You have 3 young kids of your own to raise and look after. You should have to sort another one you didnt bring into the world, while being sabotaged and thwarted at every turn by their shit parents.

You can't change them.

Look after yourself and your children.

This couldn't be bringing stability and happiness into you and your kids lives, it's it's opposite.

You hsve to feel v sorry for the little girl, you can see what you can do as an ex parents partner, but I'm not sure what you can do.

Your ex p is being rather ironic about you not supporting him ..... what a joke.

Fwiw if it makes you feel any better my niece has always refused fruit and veg, problems with school because of it etc.. she's a healthy 22 yr old. It's not ideal certainly certainly but .....