Fed up with unvaccinated colleague isolating

[Peevedcolleague]

Name changed 'cos I'll probably get slated but aibu to be pissed off about a colleague self isolating yet again while the rest of us have to carry on and pick up the pieces?

A new colleague chose not to be jabbed and is now facing numerous isolation periods at home on full pay where the rest of us have to carry on and cover her workload. Nature of the job means she's likely to be a close contact fairly regularly.

Even if she changed her mind and gets jabbed tomorrow, it'll be 10 weeks minimum before she's exempt from isolation so this could happen several more times yet.

Aibu to feel resentful and wish she bloody well got jabbed like the rest of us?

@SquishMonsta

Yes her body her choice etc etc. But she is taking the piss and any reasonable person knows it.

This

"Yabu
She has made a decision about her own body, presumably an informed decision. Vaccines don’t come without risks and she feels the vaccine risk possess greater threat than covid in her case.
Yanbu to be annoyed but she didn’t make up the isolation rules

Good job we don't all take that view!"

Exactly. I also don't want some of the serious but rare side effects of the vaccine, but I do my duty. Imagine where we'd be now without the vaccine.

YANBU.

If you choose not to be vaccinated when there is no medical reason preventing you (and I think pregnancy would fall under a medical reason reasonably), then you shouldn't be on full pay for the repetitive isolation periods.

Grossly unfair to colleagues who have thoughtfully and reasonably protected themselves and others.

@coachmylife

It’s a MEGA reward for not doing the right thing and having the vax. Frankly if I were you I’d be furious I HAD had it, and wishing I too could stay at home, doing my own stuff and getting paid…

Not everyone relishes the thought of enforced house arrest. She could be living in a tiny bedsit, or with an abusive partner.

OP has done a grand job of getting the pitchfork wavers out, when no one on this thread has any facts about this person at all. They have just assumed the worst. After all, it seems anyone unvaccinated must be absolutely terrible people.

@itsallgoingpearshaped

YANBU.

If you choose not to be vaccinated when there is no medical reason preventing you (and I think pregnancy would fall under a medical reason reasonably), then you shouldn't be on full pay for the repetitive isolation periods.

Grossly unfair to colleagues who have thoughtfully and reasonably protected themselves and others.

I'd agree with this, except that the isolations are not mandated by the person actually getting (or not getting) vaccinated.

Isolation protocols for covid aren't sustainable. If she gets sick then that's the risk she's taken. If others are vaccinated they are not likely to be very ill. Vaccination seems to be only somewhat useful at reducing transmission anyway, so sooner or later we will need to get used to the fact that covid will be passed around and we'll be exposed.

It’s because we all have met plenty of people who are anti vax for no good reasons (to us) yes rare for medical reasons but these are v much minority. Odds are she doesn’t plus even if she is the situation still applies to many others. it’s not like we are naming shaming it’s the principle.

I wonder if they could have an antibody test ? If they have been in contact with people who have had covid already, then maybe they have developed 'natural immunity' ?

If they have immunity then they don't need to self isolate ?

@thepeopleversuswork

God here come the “my body, my choice” brigade.

Your body, everyone else’s bloody problem.

Love this!!!

Thanks to mandatory vaccinations in Aus we don't have this issue which I'm very grateful fir. If you're in a teaching, healthcare, food services, construction, police etc type job, it's mandatory over here, and you'll not be employed if you don't get it. I'd be miffed continually picking up the slack for someone if there wasn't an at home tile they could be doing and understand why you are. They should need to wear full PPE at work, N95, face shield and gown to protect themselves and to ensure they minimise their risk whilst still working then.

'After all, it seems anyone unvaccinated must be absolutely terrible people.'

Not terrible people just rather dim and self-centred, loving the freedoms we currently have because others have done the right thing.

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YANBU. Getting paid is taking the piss (which is not her fault, but the system that allows it).

LoveGrooveDanceParty
You said
You realise it doesn’t work like that in a childcare setting?

If one person is missing, the number of children they look after doesn’t magically decrease to align….

No, but if it's a childcare setting then they will have to get agency/bank staff to cover as the ratios still have to be met.
Therefore the only 'extra' work would potentially be nappies if the childcare provision don't get staff to do nappies or maybe adding things to learning journeys- it'll depend on the setting

I am beginning to think that places like Austria and Singapore with their sanctions against these people are right.

Not vaccinating (unless you have a medical reason) is probably the most selfish, ignorant, anti-social thing you can do in today's society.

@JaniieJones

'After all, it seems anyone unvaccinated must be absolutely terrible people.'

Not terrible people just rather dim and self-centred, loving the freedoms we currently have because others have done the right thing.

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BUT you get vaccinated and you can still get and transmit Covid in exactly the same way as anyone unvaccinated can. Actually, if you also go along the lines of the vaccinated may have fewer symptoms if they get Covid after vaccination (which isn't necessarily accurate) then they could be more of a risk by unknowingly spreading Covid by not testing etc as they think it isn't covid as they've been vaccinated! Clearly lots of people need to move beyond what the main stream media is portraying (and actually that's changing considerably recently too!)

@MajorCarolDanvers

I am beginning to think that places like Austria and Singapore with their sanctions against these people are right.

Not vaccinating (unless you have a medical reason) is probably the most selfish, ignorant, anti-social thing you can do in today's society.

Why? There's plenty of evidence around showing that vaccinated and unvaccinated can catch and transmit Covid in exactly the same way and that the viral loads are not dissimilar in either case-so what' selfish or ignorant when it seems there's no difference between either 'person's' ability to catch and or transmit the virus to others? Have you noticed that LOADS of vaccinated people are getting Covid- they'll be passing it on to others too-perhaps without realising as they'll think their 'symptoms' can't be Covid as they've had the jab!

@OrangeVelour

YABU. I'd be more worried about vaccinated people NOT isolating and spreading the virus at work.

This!

Get her to use her annual leave - or not pay her when she is off, and I bet she is never 'ill' again, and never needs to 'self isolate' again.

Piss-taking t**t !

Yabu. She didn't make the rules. It's her life,her body and she chose to do what she thinks is best for her.
You might be spreading the virus every single day unless you are getting tested constantly

YANBU.

Bloody selfish.

@clarcats

In this particular instance the colleague's selfish, anti social behaviour is manifesting itself in the ongoing requirement to self isolate.

More generally, whilst vaccinated people can still catch covid they are far less likely to require hospital treatment or to die. Therefore the unvaccinated demonstrated their selfish anti-social behaviour through the drain they cause on the NHS, their families and their workplaces.

Well..she's smarter then the OP 🤣

@Winter2019

Well..she's smarter then the OP 🤣

Than*

I had to.

Also, why?

[quote MajorCarolDanvers]@clarcats

In this particular instance the colleague's selfish, anti social behaviour is manifesting itself in the ongoing requirement to self isolate.

More generally, whilst vaccinated people can still catch covid they are far less likely to require hospital treatment or to die. Therefore the unvaccinated demonstrated their selfish anti-social behaviour through the drain they cause on the NHS, their families and their workplaces.[/quote]
What makes you think that they're causing a drain on the NHS? LOADS of vaccinated people are getting seriously ill and needing hospital treatment, actually more than unvaccinated if you check the figures properly (actual numbers rather than the proportion figures that get media attention!),
Why is she selfish when she's decided that she doesn't wish to have an experimental jab for something that most probably will just make her slightly unwell (similar infection fatality rate to flu) ? Perhaps due to various circumstances she has decided to wait until there's more long term data about the safety of the current vaccines. Maybe she's seen how there are 'holes' appearing in the data that was given by Phizer.
It's not her fault that the government says those fully vaccinated can carry on as 'normal' even if there's someone in their house that has Covid or someone else they know-and that they can go to work etc and continue to spread Covid to others. Perhaps all the vaccinated people should be taking more care since they can spread it in exactly the same way as unvaccinated people and probably are spreading it more too!

I’ll resent the few unvaccinated colleagues I have when they need to go off to isolate but I completely respect their choice, I gave in and had the vaccines begrudgingly as I figured it’s only a matter of time before we follow other nations with vaccine passports.

Hopefully in the next few months the government will realise its unquestionably clear that all contacts must self isolate again regardless of vaccination status if we are to make any progress in the winter surge. 🙏🏻 Either that or another 3 months of lockdown from January….

What makes you think that they're causing a drain on the NHS? LOADS of vaccinated people are getting seriously ill and needing hospital treatment

Can you confirm if you are talking about people who have had both initial jabs, plus boosters or just those who have had one jab or both jabs or all jabs ? And can you define loads ?