To think Dumbledore was a massive cheater?

[Slytherine]

Just finished watching the first Harry Potter film on TV and forgot about the injustice for the Slytherins at the end. I have changed my name in solidarity.

So the Slytherins get the most House Points (presumably fairly as most of the professors at Hogwarts could barely hide their disdain for Slytherin House so wouldn’t have been dishing out points to them for no reason) and are sat there enjoying their win of the House Cup, and celebrating with the room decorated in their House colours, and then former Gryffindor Dumbledore just decides (even though the school year was officially over!!) to throw out an unreasonable amount of points to Harry, Hermione and Ron drawing them level with Slytherin, and then a further 10 points to Neville pushing Gryffindor over the edge and into the win. And then, just to rub salt into the wound, publicly humiliated them by casting a spell to replace all the Slytherin colours with the Gryffindor colours and gives them the award instead and they all celebrate, including him and most of the teachers, and Slytherin has to sit there and just accept it??

AIBU to think WTAF and that was very unfair and he was biased by doing this and it’s no wonder the Slytherins were openly hostile and dismissive of him after that!? I’d be fuming if I were a Slytherin student and if I were a parent of a Slytherin student I’d be marching up to the school myself and having a word with the head.

@Waahingwashingwashing

If Harry was a horcrux - the one that Voldemort never meant to make - could the Dursley’s have been horrible because they were living with a horcrux? Look at what it did to Ron having the thing around his neck

Ohhhhh.

What happened with the Dursley family at the end of the series? I don’t remember. Did they make up with Harry or did they still hate him?

Dumbledore behaved appallingly on several occasions, it's never rested easy with me that he's seen as a kindly old man when actually he's frequently a manipulative shit.

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I agree.

I saw the same thing and had exactly the same thought although I totally didnt respond to that when I read the books or watched it the first time!

Ron's dress robes always annoy me, poor lad. Why Molly, why? Accio Armani suit!

But then Harry would have made Ron and Hermione awful too.

I don’t think the Harry Horcrux affected others.

@Wheresmywoolyjumpers

I saw the same thing and had exactly the same thought although I totally didnt respond to that when I read the books or watched it the first time!

I think the first time we all disliked Slytherin and didn't have all the deep stuff to reflect on that we discovered later on

@Glassofshloer Snape was not. He was an abusive bully to the that he was the thing Neville was most scared of (and Neville had two parents who had been tortured). He was obsessive with Lily and joined a hate group that wanted her dead. He helped Dumbledore because he was obsessed with her not because he changed sides.

Dumbledore was a parent's nightmare. The hubris, the safeguarding issues, the bias, the complete lack of staff management.

Mind you I'd have hated going to school with Harry. The superstar that turns up and ruins EVERY YEAR.

@Waahingwashingwashing is possibly on to something though. The Horcrux didn’t have the same impact on Harry or Hermione.

I think you are over thinking it, it’s made up you know.

There’s always one 🙄

@DrSbaitso Dumbledore knew Harry was a horcrux so had to die. Its not to do with the prophecy

I don't get the Snape love. He was a mean old shit who bullied children and happily joined the death eaters when he was younger. He didn't do anything to protect Harry but instead was morbidly obsessed with Harry's dead mum.

No tears for Snape here

[quote Lillith111]@Glassofshloer Snape was not. He was an abusive bully to the that he was the thing Neville was most scared of (and Neville had two parents who had been tortured). He was obsessive with Lily and joined a hate group that wanted her dead. He helped Dumbledore because he was obsessed with her not because he changed sides.[/quote]
He loved her and of course he infiltrated the side that wanted her dead - that was his best chance of defeating them! He didn't think Voldemort would kill her and Voldemort didn't think he'd care when he did.

As Harry said, he was Dumbledore's man as soon as Voldemort went after Lily. He loved Lily.

Aroundtheworldin80moves
Considering Harry, neville and Hermione lost 150 points through helping Hagrid earlier in the book, in a way it was readjusting that injustice...

Wasn't that for breaking the rules due to being out after curfew and smuggling a baby dragon?

[quote Lillith111]@Glassofshloer Snape was not. He was an abusive bully to the that he was the thing Neville was most scared of (and Neville had two parents who had been tortured). He was obsessive with Lily and joined a hate group that wanted her dead. He helped Dumbledore because he was obsessed with her not because he changed sides.[/quote]
See I don’t see it that way. He was bullied & mistreated from a boy and fell in love with the only person to show him a little kindness which was Harry’s mum. He was devastated when she died & basically made it his life’s mission to avenge her death. Yes he was a bit of a dick in how he treated people sometimes but he was a very damaged individual.

@ParishSpinster

I don't get the Snape love. He was a mean old shit who bullied children and happily joined the death eaters when he was younger. He didn't do anything to protect Harry but instead was morbidly obsessed with Harry's dead mum.

No tears for Snape here

He let rip at Dumbledore when he found out he was ‘raising Harry as a lamb for the slaughter’

He loved her and of course he infiltrated the side that wanted her dead - that was his best chance of defeating them!

No, in the flashback bits of Snape’s memory, Lily says she no longer wants to be friends with him if he’s going to keep hanging round with people who support Voldemort. His initial interest had nothing to do with protecting her.

The whole point of the books is that you realise how unpleasant Dumbledore is the further along you go.

He's not a nice character at all.

@DrSbaitso He didn't infiltrate the Death Eaters to bring them down. He genuinely was a Death Eater until they wanted to kill Lily. He called her a Mudblood and hung out with people at school who were hateful towards muggleborns. His love was more obsessional than loving. He wanted her, he didn't want her to be happy or else he would have quit the pureblood crap, made up with James and been a good friend. If there was a thread on here about someone who was hateful, obsessive, bullying and controlling they would rightfully be told it was bad

@SickAndTiredAgain

The timing wasn’t great but given that Harry, Ron and Hermione saved the wizarding world from Voldemort returning, I’m not sure you can say it was an unreasonable amount of points.

I agree with this and I'm ravenclaw

@Glassofshloer ⬆️

If snape was someone's DH on here and he behaved obsessively like that we'd all say LTB

@Waahingwashingwashing

If Harry was a horcrux - the one that Voldemort never meant to make - could the Dursley’s have been horrible because they were living with a horcrux? Look at what it did to Ron having the thing around his neck

@FrippEnos

Aroundtheworldin80moves Considering Harry, neville and Hermione lost 150 points through helping Hagrid earlier in the book, in a way it was readjusting that injustice...

Wasn't that for breaking the rules due to being out after curfew and smuggling a baby dragon?

It does make excluding people in the real world for wearing the wrong shoes feel a tad dramatic doesn't it