So Boris and Prince Charles fly home from Cop26 in private jets...

[ssd]

aibu to call them both utter fucking hypocrites

4 and a half hours on the bloody train

The Independent can't add up - the journey time for the train Boris Johnson might have taken instead was 4 hours 53 minutes - so 5 hours to the rest of us.

According to the timings in the Daily Mirror (whom the Independent quote), Boris Johnson's plane left Glasgow Airport at 6.20pm (the Mirror photographed him speaking at a COP26 press conference at 5.40pm) - he arrived at London Stansted at 7.16pm before heading to the dinner at The Garrick Club - arriving around 8.30pm. He was photographed leaving the club at 10pm - Downing Street is less than 10 minutes away, so home at a reasonable time for PMQs the next day.

The train they say he could have taken instead was the 18.40 direct train from Glasgow to London Euston, arriving at 23.33. Journey time from Euston to Downing Street is another 20 minutes, so home around midnight.

Regardless of his (fairly brief) appearance at the reunion dinner, I think it's a tad unreasonable for journalists to expect the PM to arrive home around midnight (via train) after a hectic schedule in Rome and Glasgow, with PMQs the following morning - not least because Angela Rayner was on duty last week. Fair enough if he had the day off on Wednesday, but he didn't.

The WORST offender was Biden. He brought Airforce One, and at least two other planes containing staff/minions. Landed in Edinburgh and was staying close by, and travelled across to Glasgow in a 32 car motorcade.

Biden had an 85 car motorcade in Rome - ridiculous even with Covid restrictions;

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10144513/Biden-uses-massive-85-car-motorcade-wind-streets-Rome.html

This whole week has just been white noise to me. A lot of posturing and trying to make the right noise but how much realistically will get done? In my view not a lot. I have so little faith in what appears to be a token gesture.

It's all just the usual crap from that lot, "oh look how wonderful I am", they're all a bunch of hypocrites who live in lala land! "I don't eat meat or dairy anymore but let me just get in my massive 4x4 that I don't need to drive around a city and my private plane that I fly everywhere in regularly and my brand new clothes more then once a day" it's all a load of rich person bias bollocks

KeflavikAirport

Just coming on to say FUCK JEFF BEZOS AND HIS PENIS ROCKET AND AMAZON PRIME AND SELLING POINTLESS MADE IN SWEATSHOP SHITE.

Well said.

@Mrsjayy totally agree. Definitely unnecessary for the whole thing to be in person in the first place.
Hypocritical bastards the lot of them.

@Clavinova he could have taken the Sleeper. That way he could have had dinner and a few drinks in Glasgow, joined the train at 22:00 and been back in Downing Street by 8:00 the next morning, having showered and breakfasted on the train.

he could have taken the Sleeper

In theory yes - but the sleeper departs Glasgow at 23.40 which again is very late in the evening. And I have no idea what security would be needed.

I will try and do my bit, but I will NOT allow me or my family to suffer any privations as a result. I am not a martyr and never will be for "the cause" which more and more appears to be an exercise in back slapping from those who should know better.

Disgusted from Tunbridge Wells lol.

Biden had an 85 car motorcade in Rome - ridiculous even with Covid restrictions

Even if it was only half that number - it's a Mail article after all - I can't even get my head around the logistics

Of course the US President isn't going to travel with just half a dozen people, but who the hell needs that many??

They’ve really shot themselves in the foot haven’t they? Stupid men!

The Queen would have had the sense to get the train. They just cordon off a separate carriage for her. I’ve been on the train when she’s travelled from London to Norfolk. She rarely doesn’t get the train.

I’ve just noticed BJ wasn’t wearing a mask which is still compulsory in Scotland in indoor places. I know it’s a separate point bu again just speaks to his sense of being entitled and, well, just what an utter prick he is.

@Clavinova

he could have taken the Sleeper

In theory yes - but the sleeper departs Glasgow at 23.40 which again is very late in the evening. And I have no idea what security would be needed.

You're allowed to board from 22:00

@EatYourVegetables

That’s nasty and selfish so YANBU.

But - and I know you didn’t ask - to any posters who will use this as an excuse to continue driving SUVs and buying plastic tat and flying away for long weekends - YABU to do that - BoJo’s bad behaviour doesn’t excuse yours.

Indeed.

We need to get rid of private jets.

I agree that "my client wants a face to face meeting" should not be good enough to fly to a business meeting that could be done by Zoom.

And having 23 cars in your calvacade kind of tells criminals you are someone important. Leave your Edinburgh hotel in a Toyota Carolla/Auris hybrid and nobody would notice!

as has been said upthread, the queen took a helicopter to Sandringham this week.

I don't mind Biden, Johnson et al showing up at this. At least they're elected representatives, unlike fucking Prince Charles and William, the biggest benefit scroungers in the country.

www.townandcountrymag.com/society/tradition/a34631895/royal-family-train-history/

Royal Train expensive and delays other trains. Not that the RF use it much.

Queen and PC choosing 1 out of their 19 homes and staying put would help more than parading about being pointless and hypocritical.

I don't mind Biden, Johnson et al showing up at this

I'd rather he didn't show up anywhere except wikipedia tbh. BJ and his cronies staying permanently at home would do wonders for this country

Well yes, I'd rather he stayed locked in a fridge. But I mean at least he is elected, unlike the other posturing arseholes.

Queen and PC choosing 1 out of their 19 homes and staying put would help more than parading about being pointless and hypocritical

Well yes, but at least wanting a habitable planet's an improvement on wanting to be a tampon, and it's hard to blame him for snatching any opportunity to look relevant when so little about him is

I'm only surprised he didn't tootle up in an electric car after taking a private jet for the longer bit - you know, like he did at Davos

Just r (most of) tft, Keflavik. Excellent post re Bezos' penis rocket. If it would hold an 80-car motorcade, the Windsors and the Cabinet, I think Jeff should be allowed to keep it for a final one-way trip. Sorry, alien life forms from other galaxies, please deal with them, as your species must surely be more intelligent than ours.

It's all so galling.

Being climate change savvy is sooo right on now.
Everyone must be seen to be doing it.

But back in the real world, these superficial do-gooders go back to their gas guzzlers, buy a shit ton of designer shite , eat most splendidly and live in vast homes that are uneconomically run , with fabulous gardens that do not sit well with the local environment.

Do as I say , not as I do , springs to mind.

Greta needs to have a rethink too.

@DroopyClematis

It's all so galling.

Being climate change savvy is sooo right on now.
Everyone must be seen to be doing it.

But back in the real world, these superficial do-gooders go back to their gas guzzlers, buy a shit ton of designer shite , eat most splendidly and live in vast homes that are uneconomically run , with fabulous gardens that do not sit well with the local environment.

Do as I say , not as I do , springs to mind.

Greta needs to have a rethink too.

Whats Greta done wrong? She's pulling her hair out at these idiots.

Yanbu OP.
It somewhat dilutes the point they are trying to make when a huge number of individuals fly in, some long haul to tell everyone else to commit to reducing their carbon footprint.
As for Charles and the royal family, I can't respect their words when they have so many vast properties, some of which lie empty for months at a time, yet are still fully heated and staffed and rely on heavy use of private jets, helicopters and multiple cars.

It's business as usual for the Royals....the queen takes a drive around her Sandringham estate accompanied by one of her corgis in its own dedicated Land Rover.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10172071/Queen-continues-recovery-driven-Sandringham-estate-Range-Rover.html

Why did the Corgi have its own car? Did it stamp its tiny paw and demand one?

You people still don't get it.

They don't believe a word of it.
And neither should you.