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Is my parking fine? Poor quality pic included

100 replies

LoveGoldberg · 30/10/2021 23:15

I’m having issues with my neighbour, I’ve never actually met her. Sorry for the length!

We live opposite football pitches and if we don’t time it right then it’s really difficult to park on the street, this is only a couple of hours a day. The rest of the time there is loads of space.

She has a proper drive, we have an unofficial drive - the owners before us put it in but there’s no dropped kerb and it’s not wide enough, you can only open doors on one side of the car. In addition it is impossible to see when pulling out of it and we don’t like the risk with there being so many kids playing in the street. The only time we park on it is if there is absolutely nowhere else to park or if we’re fixing or cleaning the car and then me or dp guide the other out. To get on it we have to drive slightly on the opposite side of the road to angle it in and sometimes roll back because of the kerb if it isn’t lined up spot on.

About a month ago the street was full so I parked outside her house, I wasn’t blocking the drive at all, I know for a fact because I pulled as far back as I could knowing they always park there. I wouldn’t have attempted my drive at all because of the street being so busy. The next morning there was a note on my car saying I had parked selfishly as I had prevented her parking on her drive and I should be considerate…. I took pictures of my cars placement and asked dp and he agreed it wasn’t blocking it and there was at least a meter. Also, she had parked on her drive that she claimed I was blocking.

Last week dp was fixing his car on the drive and nipped out in mine to pick something up, when he came back she was parked over our drive. It wouldn’t normally bother us because we don’t use it, however it did this time because it was obviously to block him in, she’s never parked not on her drive! We just ignored it because she moved it before he needed it anyway.

Tonight when I’ve got home the street was full because of football match on the pitches opposite, the only spot was outside her house. A van was partially over my pretend drive so even that wasn’t an option. I considered parking on the next street but decided against it because 1. I had shopping to carry and 2. I would just be parked outside someone else’s house.

I’ve just taken the dog around the block for a wee before bed and there is a note on my car. I’ve not moved it off of the car yet but I glanced and it said something along the lines of me being a silly little girl thinking the world revolves around me. Again, she’s parked on her drive absolutely fine.

AIBU to knock on her door tomorrow morning? And if I do, what do I say? No matter what, I have to park in front of someone else’s house because I can’t get in front of mine. I don’t even care about the van being there because it wouldn’t fit anywhere else.

Is my parking fine? Poor quality pic included
OP posts:
OwlinaTree · 30/10/2021 23:18

If you are not parking across her dropped kerb you are fine I would think.

AppleKatie · 30/10/2021 23:18

I would completely ignore her. She’s clearly got an issue and is looking for a row. Don’t give her one.

lljkk · 30/10/2021 23:19

truly shit diagram but you knew that

She doesn't own any part of the road outside her home.
She only has right to access her drive (you didn't block access).
yanbu. Stand your ground.

nocoolnamesleft · 30/10/2021 23:20

She didn't park blocking your drive, because you don't have one.

BadlyFormedQuestion · 30/10/2021 23:20

You may have to just explain to her that it’s a public road. And she needs to stop putting notes on people’s cars when they park legally on it.

BadlyFormedQuestion · 30/10/2021 23:21

I think that contacting the council and arranging to have a dropped kerb put in would be a good plan. And widening your drive so it’s useable.

Chimley · 30/10/2021 23:22

Keep taking photos of your car every time you park outside her house and if you ever speak to her face to face you can show the photos and ask how parking like that blocks her drive.

LindaLooky · 30/10/2021 23:22

Ignore. She sounds fixated and wont be placated by anything you say.

Are you going to get a dropped kerb? Or will it be pointless if the drive is too narrow? If you did at least people would be in the wrong for obstructing it.

Also, nice diagram.

LoveGoldberg · 30/10/2021 23:29

We can’t widen the drive because it is already from the house to the boundary fence with next door. And we only ever use it maybe 3 times a year. I’m also not willing to spend money because she’s had a ridiculous tantrum.

@nocoolnamesleft super helpful thanks! Regardless if it’s a real drive or not, she still parked blocking a car on it for 12+ hours, when there was plenty of other places to park, including her drive.

I don’t feel like I can just ignore it because I want her to keep her grubby mits off my wipers for one thing and secondly the girls saw the first note and were really nervous about walking past her house or playing in front of it for ages and I don’t want it to become a recurring thing…. But I’m not good at confrontation so need a speech ready that I will say really quickly and then run away before she responds.

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LoveGoldberg · 30/10/2021 23:30

Those saying I’m unreasonable please can you explain why?

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anotheronenow · 30/10/2021 23:33

I would just be really calm, and say (a) you weren't blocking her drive because she got on it, and (b) no-one owns the street outside their house. Say she can agree to disagree if she thinks either of those things are wrong, and (c) suggest she takes it up with the police. Who will laugh at her.

Kite22 · 30/10/2021 23:40

Just ignore her.
You are parking on a public road, which you are entitled to do.
Obviously people parking close to anyone's driveway does make it more difficult to get on or off - due to the angle and due to the vision - exactly as you have described as the reason you don't use your space, but that is just a fact of life when you live opposite anywhere where a lot of people want to park their cars. Bit frustrating, but that is just the way it is.

Ignore any notes and Don't engage with her. If she approaches you in person, just calmly say you are parking legally, and agree it is a bit frustrating for everyone when the football is on, and how lucky you all are that it is only a couple of hours once a week and it isn't like that all the time. It is very frustrating for people who are looking for an argument, when you empathises with them Wink

whitehorsesdonotlie · 31/10/2021 08:18

She is bonkers. She doesn't own the road.

jetadore · 31/10/2021 08:27

OP your parking was fine, your neighbour unreasonable, but you’d have been better off just saying “we don’t have a drive” as the officers of the dropped kerb stasi will now derail most of this thread revelling in telling you you have a patio.

FreedomFaith · 31/10/2021 08:33

I'd move the note onto her car everytime she puts one on mine. And keep parking there if I need to. She doesn't own the road, she can get on her drive.

LoveGoldberg · 31/10/2021 09:13

as the officers of the dropped kerb stasi will now derail most of this thread revelling in telling you you have a patio.

I didn’t think of this! I wouldn’t normally say we have one either because what is there isn’t functional, but when other people that glance at it they do think we have one because of how it looks, really we just have a wide gate and path.

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NoSquirrels · 31/10/2021 09:18

I think I’d say

“Hello neighbour - thanks for the notes. I just thought I’d find out exactly what the issue is? I’ve been very careful not to block your drive when I’ve been parking. It’s a nightmare when it’s busy, isn’t it?”

And then wait to see what she says.

PheasantsNest · 31/10/2021 09:29

Stop describing yours as a drive. Without a dropped kerb you have no rights.

Keep parking outside her house you are doing nothing wrong.

takenforgrantednana · 31/10/2021 09:30

@LoveGoldberg

I’m having issues with my neighbour, I’ve never actually met her. Sorry for the length!

We live opposite football pitches and if we don’t time it right then it’s really difficult to park on the street, this is only a couple of hours a day. The rest of the time there is loads of space.

She has a proper drive, we have an unofficial drive - the owners before us put it in but there’s no dropped kerb and it’s not wide enough, you can only open doors on one side of the car. In addition it is impossible to see when pulling out of it and we don’t like the risk with there being so many kids playing in the street. The only time we park on it is if there is absolutely nowhere else to park or if we’re fixing or cleaning the car and then me or dp guide the other out. To get on it we have to drive slightly on the opposite side of the road to angle it in and sometimes roll back because of the kerb if it isn’t lined up spot on.

About a month ago the street was full so I parked outside her house, I wasn’t blocking the drive at all, I know for a fact because I pulled as far back as I could knowing they always park there. I wouldn’t have attempted my drive at all because of the street being so busy. The next morning there was a note on my car saying I had parked selfishly as I had prevented her parking on her drive and I should be considerate…. I took pictures of my cars placement and asked dp and he agreed it wasn’t blocking it and there was at least a meter. Also, she had parked on her drive that she claimed I was blocking.

Last week dp was fixing his car on the drive and nipped out in mine to pick something up, when he came back she was parked over our drive. It wouldn’t normally bother us because we don’t use it, however it did this time because it was obviously to block him in, she’s never parked not on her drive! We just ignored it because she moved it before he needed it anyway.

Tonight when I’ve got home the street was full because of football match on the pitches opposite, the only spot was outside her house. A van was partially over my pretend drive so even that wasn’t an option. I considered parking on the next street but decided against it because 1. I had shopping to carry and 2. I would just be parked outside someone else’s house.

I’ve just taken the dog around the block for a wee before bed and there is a note on my car. I’ve not moved it off of the car yet but I glanced and it said something along the lines of me being a silly little girl thinking the world revolves around me. Again, she’s parked on her drive absolutely fine.

AIBU to knock on her door tomorrow morning? And if I do, what do I say? No matter what, I have to park in front of someone else’s house because I can’t get in front of mine. I don’t even care about the van being there because it wouldn’t fit anywhere else.

why not call her bluff on this? tell her that due to lacking of parking places avialable that they should both help each other out by covering the drives/parking for either house. should either neighbour require access then to just knock on the door and either will remove the car to allow entry/exit of the driveway until such a time that either of you has access to your own parking space after the footie match?

i also suggest that rather than driving into the driveway and struggling to reverse out its far far safer to reverse your car in

Cloudyzebra · 31/10/2021 09:35

I'd just write a note on the back of her note saying you are legally parked and post it back through her door. Then ignore her as you are doing nothing wrong.

nextdoorslawnmower · 31/10/2021 09:50

Write in giant letters over her note FUCK OFF and stick it through her letterbox.

SatsumaPumpkinFace · 31/10/2021 10:00

I'd screw up the note and throw it on her drive, every single time (maybe with a pebble to weigh it down so it doesn't blow away).
CF Angry

Darkstar4855 · 31/10/2021 10:03

YANBU to park outside her house if you are not over her dropped kerb.

She is NBU to park outside your house as your “drive” does not have a dropped kerb and you are driving over the pavement to access your property which you shouldn’t be doing.

Personally I would be parking outside her house all the time from now on as retaliation for her petty behaviour. Or buy a cheap old car, park it there and leave it.

Longdistance · 31/10/2021 10:05

I agree with steering the note up, but I’d put it through her letterbox.

Chamomileteaplease · 31/10/2021 10:06

I agree with NoSquirrels - yes, do go over to her and speak to her. Just calmly ask her what she is upset about.

As you believe her issues are nonsensical, you will no doubt be able to quash her arguments one by one.

Does she live with a sane person who could back you up?