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Is my parking fine? Poor quality pic included

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LoveGoldberg · 30/10/2021 23:15

I’m having issues with my neighbour, I’ve never actually met her. Sorry for the length!

We live opposite football pitches and if we don’t time it right then it’s really difficult to park on the street, this is only a couple of hours a day. The rest of the time there is loads of space.

She has a proper drive, we have an unofficial drive - the owners before us put it in but there’s no dropped kerb and it’s not wide enough, you can only open doors on one side of the car. In addition it is impossible to see when pulling out of it and we don’t like the risk with there being so many kids playing in the street. The only time we park on it is if there is absolutely nowhere else to park or if we’re fixing or cleaning the car and then me or dp guide the other out. To get on it we have to drive slightly on the opposite side of the road to angle it in and sometimes roll back because of the kerb if it isn’t lined up spot on.

About a month ago the street was full so I parked outside her house, I wasn’t blocking the drive at all, I know for a fact because I pulled as far back as I could knowing they always park there. I wouldn’t have attempted my drive at all because of the street being so busy. The next morning there was a note on my car saying I had parked selfishly as I had prevented her parking on her drive and I should be considerate…. I took pictures of my cars placement and asked dp and he agreed it wasn’t blocking it and there was at least a meter. Also, she had parked on her drive that she claimed I was blocking.

Last week dp was fixing his car on the drive and nipped out in mine to pick something up, when he came back she was parked over our drive. It wouldn’t normally bother us because we don’t use it, however it did this time because it was obviously to block him in, she’s never parked not on her drive! We just ignored it because she moved it before he needed it anyway.

Tonight when I’ve got home the street was full because of football match on the pitches opposite, the only spot was outside her house. A van was partially over my pretend drive so even that wasn’t an option. I considered parking on the next street but decided against it because 1. I had shopping to carry and 2. I would just be parked outside someone else’s house.

I’ve just taken the dog around the block for a wee before bed and there is a note on my car. I’ve not moved it off of the car yet but I glanced and it said something along the lines of me being a silly little girl thinking the world revolves around me. Again, she’s parked on her drive absolutely fine.

AIBU to knock on her door tomorrow morning? And if I do, what do I say? No matter what, I have to park in front of someone else’s house because I can’t get in front of mine. I don’t even care about the van being there because it wouldn’t fit anywhere else.

Is my parking fine? Poor quality pic included
OP posts:
Justheretoaskaquestion91 · 01/11/2021 07:41

Btw my understanding of dropped kerbs is you can park over the sloping bit of her kerb but not the flat. And something to do with wheel placement I believe - eg your car front or end can overhang but a wheel can’t be over. It’s all very precise but it’s not as black and white as people seem to think!

Justilou1 · 01/11/2021 07:43

@PheasantsNest - I hope you don’t consider a career in editing. The OP made it very clear that she did not park in front of the Neighbour’s drive. Ever. She parked more than a metre clear of it, which is perfectly legal. 🔎👓🔍

PheasantsNest · 01/11/2021 07:45

@Justilou1 maybe if you read the OP's post of 7.22am you wouldn't have made such a dick of yourself.

Justilou1 · 01/11/2021 07:54

She said that she didn’t park across anyone’s drive

PheasantsNest · 01/11/2021 07:55

@Justilou1 This is what she actually said:

If I hadn’t parked there I would have just had to park in front of someone else’s drive and potentially caused them this problem.

MrsElijahMikaelson1 · 01/11/2021 07:56

Hopefully she now realises her error!

DebbieHarrysCheekbones · 01/11/2021 08:10

[quote PheasantsNest]@Justilou1 This is what she actually said:

If I hadn’t parked there I would have just had to park in front of someone else’s drive and potentially caused them this problem.[/quote]
You seem confused.
If she hadn’t parked where she did - which was legally as it was not across a drive with a dropped kerb but rather next to it - then she might have had to consider the option of parking across an actual drive.

This isn’t in anyway an implied admission she had in fact done that and the diagram makes that clear. She had parked legally next to a drive it’s just the fruit loop who lives on the property with the immediately said adjacent drive can’t manoeuvre her vehicle onto it. This is not to do with the OPs legal parking but rather the fact the angry woman is not competent at getting her car onto her drive which was unobstructed entirely.

BlusteringBoobies · 01/11/2021 08:41

Loving all the parking twats joining the thread...

You don't have a drive, she can park infront of it

Your issue is you need a dropped kerb

You shouldn't have parked in front of her drive

OP you should know better on MN to even mention you have a 'pretend drive' even if it bears no significance to your issue!

Ponceyponce · 01/11/2021 08:49

Wondering if you live on my old street as I had a similar issue a few years ago even down to the football pitches. I took to just completely ignoring her notes and if she started verbally abusing me I would calmly state I was not blocking the drive, I was parked perfectly legally so please leave me alone. It resulted in her one day calling the police to report me for illegal parking and preventing access for emergency services. The police sent a community officer round to take a look, he immediately confirmed I was doing nothing wrong and also mentioned to me that with the piles of notes I had full of all sorts of threats I could probably report her for harrassment. I decided to be the bigger person and didn't but I assume he told her it was possible as she never complained again.
Anyway point of the long story, don't engage in any screaming matches but keep any notes and a log of any incidents of verbal abuse including witnesses incase it escalates.

PheasantsNest · 01/11/2021 08:52

@DebbieHarrysCheekbones no not confused. The OP wrote that. It is never an option to park over a drive. You seem confused by the highway code.

DebbieHarrysCheekbones · 01/11/2021 09:13

[quote PheasantsNest]@DebbieHarrysCheekbones no not confused. The OP wrote that. It is never an option to park over a drive. You seem confused by the highway code.[/quote]
She didn’t park across someone’s drive though.

She parked legally on the road next to a driveway not across it.

She didn’t do anything wrong.

Thatsplentyjack · 01/11/2021 09:30

[quote LoveGoldberg]@Restzol both times she’s complained she’s still managed to get onto her drive so it isn’t stopping her. If I hadn’t parked there I would have just had to park in front of someone else’s drive and potentially caused them this problem. People don’t tend to park on the other side of the road so definitely not across her drive there.[/quote]
Why would it cause someone else a problem? I thought you weren't blocking her drive? 🤔

Oh and your dh didn't talk to her, he just tried to embarrass her. I can just about guarantee he wouldn't have done that to a man.

DappyApple · 01/11/2021 10:00

[quote PheasantsNest]@DebbieHarrysCheekbones no not confused. The OP wrote that. It is never an option to park over a drive. You seem confused by the highway code.[/quote]
She never parked over anyone’s drive though. She parked clear of the drive but stated if she was to park elsewhere, she’d then be genuinely blocking someone else’s drive and creating the same “supposed” problem neighbour is complaining about.

That’s not the op stating she has blocked the drive of complaining neighbour

PheasantsNest · 01/11/2021 10:01

@DebbieHarrysCheekbones She said she would though.

LoveGoldberg · 01/11/2021 10:40

I was half asleep this morning! I meant to put park in front of someone else’s house in the same way which would just then move the same “problem”- I’ve not at any point parked over her drive.

And he would have spoke to a man, at the old house a man parked on the pavement ridiculously and he couldn’t get the pram past and he shouted them back. There had never been a plan of him speaking to her, I was going round and he happened to see her as he was walking past my car, he’s my DP so he wasn’t ever going to not look at the note.

OP posts:
randomchap · 01/11/2021 10:50

It sounds like she's spoiling for a fight over parking. You might want to avoid using your fake drive for a while. It's technically illegal to drive over a non-dropped kerb and she might report you.

www.tameside.gov.uk/kerbdropping

"If you intend to drive a vehicle over the footway into your driveway off a highway, then you will need a dropped kerb. If you do not have dropped kerb, you must not drive over the footway. If you do so, you are breaking the law and enforcement action could be taken to prevent such practice. Furthermore:

You may become liable from a collision with a pedestrian
You may become liable for damage to the footway
You may face considerable costs as a result of damage to any utility apparatus under the footway"

DoraMaude · 01/11/2021 10:52

I think your husband's behaviour was bizarre. Why didn't he just tell her that your parking is perfectly legal and ask her not to leave notes in future?

You don't have a drive, so she didn't park in front of it.

HarrietsChariot · 01/11/2021 11:02

I'm glad he spoke to her, she is likely to find him more intimidating than you. She's a bully, and the one thing bullies don't like is people who can stand up to them or are more powerful than them. She thought she could get away with attacking you because you're just a "silly little girl" but will hopefully think twice about doing so again.

If she does, get him to go round there and have it out with her. Politely but firmly at first - just enough to make understand that if she tries to imtimidate you, it will end up being worse for her.

HikingforScenery · 01/11/2021 11:05

@HarrietsChariot

I'm glad he spoke to her, she is likely to find him more intimidating than you. She's a bully, and the one thing bullies don't like is people who can stand up to them or are more powerful than them. She thought she could get away with attacking you because you're just a "silly little girl" but will hopefully think twice about doing so again.

If she does, get him to go round there and have it out with her. Politely but firmly at first - just enough to make understand that if she tries to imtimidate you, it will end up being worse for her.

This!
DebbieHarrysCheekbones · 01/11/2021 14:15

@LoveGoldberg

I was half asleep this morning! I meant to put park in front of someone else’s house in the same way which would just then move the same “problem”- I’ve not at any point parked over her drive.

And he would have spoke to a man, at the old house a man parked on the pavement ridiculously and he couldn’t get the pram past and he shouted them back. There had never been a plan of him speaking to her, I was going round and he happened to see her as he was walking past my car, he’s my DP so he wasn’t ever going to not look at the note.

@PheasantsNest

Trust this clears it up for you Grin
I didn’t think the OP was ever going to do what you have rightly told her wasn’t an option. She’s confirmed this is the case

Can you accept other people understand the Highway Code now as well as yourself?

PheasantsNest · 01/11/2021 15:05

@DebbieHarrysCheekbones the OP typed those words. I didn't make them up.

Kite22 · 01/11/2021 15:42
Grin

Excellent work by your dp.
Great way of responding.

DebbieHarrysCheekbones · 01/11/2021 20:58

[quote PheasantsNest]@DebbieHarrysCheekbones the OP typed those words. I didn't make them up.[/quote]
As she has clarified that was a typo
In any event she didn’t actually do what you’ve got all het up about so big deal

PheasantsNest · 01/11/2021 21:30

@DebbieHarrysCheekbones you are the one who keeps digging.

DebbieHarrysCheekbones · 01/11/2021 23:23

[quote PheasantsNest]@DebbieHarrysCheekbones you are the one who keeps digging.[/quote]
Your piqued response suggests otherwise

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