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To not send dd her bag?

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TheBlindTracker · 29/10/2021 13:40

DD15 was going to meet some friends and then back to another friend for a sleepover. She had a small overnight bag - change of clothes, toothbrush, makeup etc. As she was leaving, she said she didn't want to take the bag with her and could i send it by motorbike taxi to her friend in the evening (we're in a country where it's very easy and relatively cheap to do that).

However, it would still cost equivalent of 2.50 pounds. I said absolutely not. Then she said it'd come out of her pocket money. However, she has been begging for more money recently, keeps on trying to cadge extra money for various things she needs to do. So this annoyed me - it's not a huge amount of course but easily avoided if she'd have just taken the bag with her. If she has money to burn then clearly she doesn't need to ask for extra money! So I said that no, she should take it with her. She got all stroppy and insisted she would come home to get the bag with her friend when going back to her house.

Fast forwrd to this evening, she doesn't want to come home to get bag and she calls DH to ask him to send the bag as I won't do it.

This has cued a big argument with DH who thinks if she pays for it herself then it's fine, that she mustn't be without her bag, and she's learnt her lesson (somehow) whereas I think that we're raising an entitled princess and that she needs to learn her lesson by being without her bag (one night, nothing absolutely essential). I also think DH is undermining my authority here (DH was not at home when DD left so not involved in the decision) whereas he thinks I'm being dictatorial and traumatising dd who will not have her toothbrush, make up or clean underwear.

OP posts:
k4523 · 30/10/2021 03:44

I know the issue is resolved now, but I would not have sent the bag. She should have taken it with her. £2.50 is a lot of money in Thailand (and in the UK for many people)

CtrlU · 30/10/2021 04:00

The biggest non problem ever

Send the bloody bag and deduct the £2.50 from her pocket money if you must but it certainly isn’t as dramatic as I think you’ve made it

TheBlindTracker · 30/10/2021 14:33

[quote PumpkinsandTea]@TheBlindTracker Do you mind me asking OP, what has lead you to living in Thailand? How exotic! 🏝[/quote]
@PumpkinsandTea

Got transferred due to my job in an international company. Was offered to lead some work for our regional unit which is based here in Bangkok.

I do love Thailand and Thai people are (generally) lovely - very tolerant and patient. It is exotic sometimes in the sense that the culture is just so different to western culture that you feel sometimes that you don't understand anything and make faux-pas all the time but, really, day to day life is just like in the UK in a lot of ways: school, work, activities, friends etc especially for the kids who are in international schools. It's just a lot hotter (after 2 years of not going back to the UK, I'm yearning for a crisp autumn morning - it is NEVER even chilly here) :)

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MaybeAMoaner · 30/10/2021 14:37

£2.50 for someone to courier a bag is absolutely dirt cheap.
I can’t believe you’ve made such a big thing about it.

Notaroadrunner · 30/10/2021 14:37

@FleasInMyKnees

She can arrange the bike taxi and pay for it when its delivered
This. Tell her to organise the taxi and you will hand over the bag. She can pay when it's delivied to friends house.
TheBlindTracker · 30/10/2021 14:51

[quote TheReluctantPhoenix]@TheBlindTracker,

£10 seems about what I would give at her age, assuming that if she spends it on taxis and/or Starbucks, that is it for the week.

The expat lifestyle is a bit crazy (had a friend with teens (at the time) who lived many years in Singapore, and whom I visited several times).

So much to enjoy in expat life, but so hard to bring up grounded children. It is a tough one.[/quote]
@TheReluctantPhoenix
It is REALLY hard.
Of course, there are some real pluses and life is good for us but, oh my, I'm not 100% sure I'd have moved if I'd have realized some of the challenges of raising teens in this kind of environment.
I have friends in Singapore and I think in Thailand it's even more challenging. It's not just the expat lifestyle itslef but also the local lifestyle (and ridiculous levels of inequality) meaning some are wealthy and privileged beyond belief. A lot of the expat families are what we'd consider middle class at home, kind of like us,. But a lot of the Thai families my kids are mixing with are VERY rich and VERY well-connected, beyond anything we've ever encountered before. And it's exposing my kids to a very very entitled lifestyle. Probably why I got triggered over the offhand way DD refused to take a small bag with her!
And then to say nothing of the easy availability of affordable drugs for kids who are very affluent by local standards which is a non-issue in Singapore! This is another layer of difficulty to manage (but this will have to be a whole other thread!!).

OP posts:
faw2009 · 30/10/2021 15:40

I lived in Thailand for a few years. One of the reasons I left was I didn't want my son growing up super entitled, thinking everything is super easy. It's like this expat bubble of shopping malls, great restaurants, home help...So I do sympathise OP. And yes I hugely missed the change of the seasons in the UK, and the autumn leaves!

BananaPB · 30/10/2021 16:03

Teenagers only learn the value of money once they get a job or run out of money and realise that saving means more money iyswim.
It's her money to waste so let her waste it as long as she's paying.

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