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Woman driving at protesters

312 replies

ivykaty44 · 17/10/2021 15:43

The woman driving at protestors this week in the news, in a range rover that it turns out, isn’t taxed, hasn’t got a valid MOT & therefore insurance

Should have it impounded as she’s driving it illegally to take her son to school AIBU to think you can’t driving round illegally and then shout at protestors blocking the road - regardless of the rights or wrongs of the protestors or how annoying she may find them

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Bumblenums1234 · 17/10/2021 21:28

The woman wasn't even driving in the video, she was out of her car so I I not seeing how she hit anyone. These idiots go and sit up against bumpers to stop people moving, I've seen it countless times on other videos

ReeseWitherfork · 17/10/2021 21:29

Yes sorry we did cross post. So they have right of way at junctions (170) and on crossings (18). Thanks for sharing.

Curious what the new rules will say.

Interesting that it looks like the protestors were probably breaking a law by loitering on the crossing.

RainbowCrossing · 17/10/2021 21:30

What is obvious from all the videos on that twitter link is that there is going to be some serious blood spilt if the police don't start moving the protesters out of the way for their own protection very soon.

Lockheart · 17/10/2021 21:31

@ReeseWitherfork

Yes sorry we did cross post. So they have right of way at junctions (170) and on crossings (18). Thanks for sharing.

Curious what the new rules will say.

Interesting that it looks like the protestors were probably breaking a law by loitering on the crossing.

They may well also have been breaking their injunction. There has been talk of that but I haven't seen much detail, so I have no idea.
Lockheart · 17/10/2021 21:32

@Bumblenums1234

The woman wasn't even driving in the video, she was out of her car so I I not seeing how she hit anyone. These idiots go and sit up against bumpers to stop people moving, I've seen it countless times on other videos
The video clearly shows her hitting two pedestrians with her car as she tries to push them out of the way. She gets out of the car twice - once before and once after.
OnlyCans · 17/10/2021 21:41

@ReeseWitherfork @Lockheart my understanding of the Highway Code is that nobody has "right of way" but people must "give way" to "priority road users". For example... you give way to the right but those on the right do not have right of way. Cars will always have to give way to pedestrians. No matter where.

MurielSpriggs · 17/10/2021 21:52

I really don't think it needs so much analysis! It is undoubtedly against the Highway Code for the driver of a stationary vehicle who knows that a person is in front of that vehicle to deliberately hit the person with the vehicle.

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RainbowCrossing · 17/10/2021 22:03

@MurielSpriggs

I really don't think it needs so much analysis! It is undoubtedly against the Highway Code for the driver of a stationary vehicle who knows that a person is in front of that vehicle to deliberately hit the person with the vehicle.
100%

But this is going to have self proclaimed vigilantes all over it soon. Moving people out of the way roughly (and beating them up a bit to keep them there).

The police need to intervene. I don't understand why they aren't. Someone's going to get seriously hurt.

Lockheart · 17/10/2021 22:06

@MurielSpriggs

I really don't think it needs so much analysis! It is undoubtedly against the Highway Code for the driver of a stationary vehicle who knows that a person is in front of that vehicle to deliberately hit the person with the vehicle.
You'd think, but apparently people feel this is up for debate.
KayKayWat · 17/10/2021 22:10

the woman who was stuck in the back of her sons car having a stroke who now is going to be disabled for the rest of her life as she didn’t get to treatment fast enough was more than al title inconvenienced

In this instance I don't think I'd be stopping tbh.

PomegranateQueen · 17/10/2021 22:15

Honestly, I wouldn't wish anyone harm but I am surprised it's taken this long for someone to drive into them.

user1471447863 · 17/10/2021 22:21

The 'I understand' woman in the grey top moved herself to be in front of the range rover driven by the irate woman - that is literally asking to be run over, she deserved all (and more) than she got.
There are other videos of protestors throwing themselves at vehicles that are slowly manoeuvring around protestors - they want to get themselves injured.
I did like the video of the hgv slowly creeping forward and nudging them, all while being sat on the horn for 5 minutes at ear height, hopefully a few of them will have gone deaf from it, an if they have then its entirely their own fault.

If they truly believe themselves to be in the right then i'd like to see them blockade the roads to a football stadium on a match day, but i think they know they'd have to hose the streets down afterwards

user1471447863 · 17/10/2021 22:24

The car was actually insured too according to AskMID
And as it was under 3 years old it does not require an MOT yet, so was only in the wrong of having expired TAX

Woman driving at protesters
user1471447863 · 17/10/2021 22:33

I'd love to see them doing the same on a Parisian zebra crossing - You risk getting mown down on them by impatient taxis and scooters even when you do have the green man in your favour.

I saw reports that some of these protestors had been arrested 6 or 7 times, and bailed pending trial each time. It should be a strict condition that they are not to attend further protests & upon rearrest they should be remanded in custody until trial. You simply can't have people released to immediately reoffend repeatedly.

Bumblenums1234 · 17/10/2021 23:00

The video clearly shows her hitting two pedestrians with her car as she tries to push them out of the way. She gets out of the car twice - once before and once after

I must have seen a different bit then as she was out all the time in the video I saw.

anon12345678901 · 18/10/2021 04:56

@MurielSpriggs

I really don't think it needs so much analysis! It is undoubtedly against the Highway Code for the driver of a stationary vehicle who knows that a person is in front of that vehicle to deliberately hit the person with the vehicle.
Of course but it is also against the Highway Code to loiter on a crossing and also sit on a motorway. No one should hit someone with their car but if they carry on playing around on motorways (not what happened in this clip) they will get hurt. All users should follow the Highway Code including pedestrians.
ivykaty44 · 18/10/2021 06:22

@Bumblenums1234

The link in the this thread shows the car being driven into the protestors- all the Media video clips cut it short so that part isn’t shown. I don’t know if it’s deliberately cut short not to show the car driving into the protestors

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ReeseWitherfork · 18/10/2021 06:42

@MurielSpriggs

I really don't think it needs so much analysis! It is undoubtedly against the Highway Code for the driver of a stationary vehicle who knows that a person is in front of that vehicle to deliberately hit the person with the vehicle.
I wasn't analysing anything. A poster mentioned that pedestrians have right of way, so I asked if that was true. I didn't really care about it in this scenario, I wanted to understand more what she meant. And now I get it. Pedestrians have right of way when crossing junctions and at crossings. I've learnt something, isn't that a good thing?
PinkSparklyPussyCat · 18/10/2021 07:30

Exterior non-flammable cladding.

Our local HA has just done it on all its terraced and semi-detached properties in the area. Fitted solar panels too and air source or ground source heat pumps where they can.

That's ok for HA but we own - who's going to pay for it in our case? I'm certainly not.

DumplingsAndStew · 18/10/2021 07:40

Rule 170. Drivers must give way to pedestrians who are in the road (having started to cross)

What is the definition of crossing the road? I'm not sure sitting in the road meets that

ReeseWitherfork · 18/10/2021 08:02

@DumplingsAndStew

Rule 170. Drivers must give way to pedestrians who are in the road (having started to cross)

What is the definition of crossing the road? I'm not sure sitting in the road meets that

That rule just refers to junctions. I assume it means that if you turn into a junction and there is a pedestrian already half way across that you need to stop and let them carry on. That they don't have to have anticipated you turning.
Dojacatpaws · 18/10/2021 08:04

The womans actions are just adding to the current culture of violence, agression and intolerance in our society

TheBlackArt · 18/10/2021 08:05

and their non-violent protest makes them "twats"

Absolutely!

Dojacatpaws · 18/10/2021 08:08

Pomegranate queen, and what if it was a different protest blocking the drivers route - black loves matter, safety for women etc? Why are the woman's actions more acceptable purely because she doesn't agree with the cause