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AIBU?

Is it me or is DH? Or a bit of both.

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Perspectiveneeded44 · 14/10/2021 10:43

Hi all,

Right have changed my username.

Have just left DS downstairs with DH as I needed to get out of the room.

I feel like I’m loosing my mind here so need some perspective.

Before I start with DS DH is good with him but has never ever had him for more than a couple of hours at a time and never on his own. This used to be because of BF but now at 4 months DS is mostly bottle fed but still I have him all the time.

I know I’m not perfect in any of this as I don’t like to let things go but am learning to walk away instead of arguing. I hate the thought of arguing in front of DS.

My DH works full time, two days a fortnight he works a 12 hour day 7-3 the rest of the time. He had 5 days off a fortnight and quite a bit of annual leave.

This argument has blown up because I went to DH at 7:45 this morning handed DS over and asked him to have him for an hour and half so I could get some sleep. He did but begrudgingly. I had been up since 3:30 as DS stirred and cried but only fully woke at 5:50. I got up with him after a long feed at 6:50.

I do all night feeds all wake ups and DH is in spare room ( originally my choice as DH can’t cope without sleep) so doesn’t have unbroken sleep like me.

When I came downstairs DH has been a bit off with me and basically feels like I don’t do enough. This is the same argument we always have. I do the majority of the cooking and the cleaning. DH will do a clean every so often but not consistently.

The house is in a bit of a mess today as I didn’t clean it last night.


He says other woman manage to look after their babies and tidy and what exactly do I do all day. Apparently other people have commented about how lazy I am. As I’m off it’s considered my job to do all domestic chores.


I am beginning to resent him as I feel so inferior.

I will be going back to work FT in January.

Am I wrong in thinking DH should pull his weight too.

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makinganavalon · 14/10/2021 15:04

Yanbu-

  1. Has he supported you by sticking up for you when these people have commented? If not, ask him why not. Partners, husband's whatever are meant to actually be partners- there for each other, defending when due, supporting, loyal to each other.
  2. Please don't let someone who has no experience birthing a child and being up all night feeding it let you feel inferior. It's hard, hard, hard. The hormones, the sleep deprivation, the toll it takes on a women's body will time immemorial be underestimated by a huge amount of men. He can comment on your path when he's walked in your shoes.
  3. If he doesn't like the state of the house he can help you deal with it and he can try doing that with 4 months broken sleep and all if he likes.
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moofolk · 14/10/2021 15:06

What a twat!

If he is not contributing to caring for his child, he should move out and contribute only financially.

He is not helping, he is a drain on you.

Tell him to change his attitude, sort out his behaviour or leave. Imagine what kind of attitudes he will be setting you son up to have

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BubblinTrouble · 14/10/2021 15:10

Even if you had time, when would you do it if baby doesn’t have long naps!!!!! That’s so silly and really doesn’t value what you’re doing at all. Also, YOU NEED A BREAK so if that means housework doesn’t get done, it doesn’t! He is being super unreasonable. If he wants the house clean he should clean or hire a cleaner.

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Goldbar · 14/10/2021 15:14

OP, you're clearly not BU. If your DH lived alone, he would have to do his own cooking and cleaning. So it's not clear why he should do less because there is a new baby around the place.

I'm sorry but it's unlikely to change when you go back to work Flowers. Nursery runs will be your responsibility, as will packing nursery bags. You will get home frazzled from rushing for nursery pick-up, cook dinner, do bathtime and bedtime and then, exhausted and half-asleep, catch up on your second job. Your husband, having been home since 3, will sit on the sofa watching you doing this and complain that his washing hasn't been done. You will never get a break at weekends because you 'cope better' with less sleep, apparently Hmm. He will continue to view your DC as some sort of "hobby" for you to do alongside full-time work and cleaning.

I'm not sure what to suggest. My only advice is to go nuclear since calmly negotiating with someone who views you with contempt is unlikely to work. Tell him he is the lazy one and that, if he continues to act in this way, you will not be together in a year's time. Tell him you can either share the cooking or he can cook for himself from now on. And tell him the house being untidy is as much his responsibility as yours... if he sees that something needs to be sorted, he can either do it himself without making a fuss or just shut up about it. Tell him that you're unclear when your job title became "household skivvy" rather than life partner, but you're on the point of resignation anyway.

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kateg27 · 14/10/2021 15:16

I am currently on maternity leave with my 4th baby, she is 6 months old. I do all the house work and cooking. This is because I find the time during the day. However DH comes home, he plays with the kids and does bath and bedtime. We have equal leisure time. I go to the gym he goes cycling or golfing and we both socialise with friends.
On weekends we share everything equally and have a lie in each. Could you work it like this?

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GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 14/10/2021 15:19

I imagine he's gaslighting you too - no one has been commenting on you tidying or not tidying your home or how lazy you are. He's lying to try to make you feel embarrassed and ashamed.

^^ this 100%. There’s no way outsiders are commenting like this. It’s just his way of making you feel bad and inadequate.

All this is very familiar from my EA ex husband. Right down to supporting his viewpoint with “everyone else thinks”.

My ex saw me as a resource to get the absolute most out of - as much housework, childcare, nighttime childcare and paid work as possible. I certainly wasn’t seen as a person who could need to rest and sleep. Those were a waste of the resource.

Sounds like your “d”h is similar.

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Coyoacan · 14/10/2021 15:24

I'm sorry but it's unlikely to change when you go back to work flowers. Nursery runs will be your responsibility, as will packing nursery bags. You will get home frazzled from rushing for nursery pick-up, cook dinner, do bathtime and bedtime and then, exhausted and half-asleep, catch up on your second job. Your husband, having been home since 3, will sit on the sofa watching you doing this and complain that his washing hasn't been done

As I mentioned above I was a single mother and several of my neighbours commented on how lucky I was because I did not have to clean up after and feed a husband and I could come and go as I pleased.

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aloris · 14/10/2021 15:29

I think your husband has a fantasy vision of what life used to be like for families, probably obtained from his parents. It was never like that. Yes, women did a lot, but there were other women around to help, older daughters, maiden aunts, grandmothers, etc. There was never a time women happily did it all, all by themselves. Also, although men did not do the heavy housework, according to my mother-in-law they DID pick up after themselves, they put things back when they used them, they hung their towels so they wouldn't smell musty, they cleaned up if they made a spill in the refrigerator, and so on. I'm sure this was mainly because stuff was more expensive and harder to replace but the effect was that it was a lot easier to keep up with the housework than with this current generation of men that sometimes see picking up after oneself as special housework rather than as normal adulting.

Your husband needs to get some regular experience looking after the baby. You can start with short sessions so that if he forgets to feed or change nappies then you can remind him to do that. Then make the sessions longer. If he refuses to remember to feed/change nappies, or claims he can't possibly remember, you might need to escalate a little bit. Failing to feed or change a baby in his care is neglect as it can be a safety issue (diaper rash, dehydration etc.). Come up with something to do to get you out of the house so he has to learn to look after the baby.

I think you also need to start getting a handle on the baby's sleep. Not all babies sleep through the night at this age, but ten minutes total nap during the day doesn't sound right. Could your baby have reflux, or be intolerant of the formula you are using? Sometimes babies with reflux will seem fine except when they are laying horizontal for nap.

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Deadringer · 14/10/2021 15:30

I was on the fence until i got to the bit where he says other women manage, what do you do all day, and people have said you are lazy. He is an idiot and a fucking liar. Next time he has a couple of days off in a row make him take over your duties for a couple of nights and see how he gets on. (Stay somewhere else if needs be) He will be desperate to get back to work. A while back on another thread a poster said that lots of men seem to think that a baby is a sort of hobby that women have, op's dh is one of those i think.

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CheshireChat · 14/10/2021 15:37

If you will work more hours than him, it shouldn't even be a 50/50 split as he should be taking on more.

Have you asked him how he expects to cope come January?

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LannieDuck · 14/10/2021 15:41

what exactly do I do all day.

Ohh... if he was my husband, he would regret saying that.

So, you explained why you hadn't left DS with him much to start with (breastfeeding), but he's bottlefed now and you don't say why you haven't left DS with him much since?

You should go away for a weekend 'so he can see what exactly you do all day/night'. Or at the very least book a couple of consecutive days out of the house with friends or similar.

He did ask... Grin

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LannieDuck · 14/10/2021 15:42

Oh, and a question - why isn't he taking any parental leave?

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Deadringer · 14/10/2021 15:55

Or you could make sure that the house is an absolute tip when he comes home, and say, 'you know you asked what i do all day? Well, today i didn't do it.' Then hand him the baby and go for a long bath, nap, walk, whatever you fancy.

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Peace43 · 14/10/2021 16:04

Next weekend pack yourself a picnic and go out for the day. Leave DH with the baby. Don’t set him up with new bottles etc.. come back at bedtime. Then moan at him about how much housework he hasn’t done! Repeat on Sunday if he didn’t learn something on Saturday.

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Alicesweewonders · 14/10/2021 16:05

This needs nipped in the butt now, I've seen this happen in too many relationships.

Big man can't do any parenting / night feeds / housework / cooking cos he got a big important job ( he doesn't) but funnily enough when the mother's maternity leave finishes & she's back working - the same doesn't seem apply to her.

In fact, she's left doing everything & still working on top of it.

If he has 4 days off in a row, why is he not doing nights with the baby? Make this happen & buy a pair of earplugs.

Night- Wakenings don't stop when you go back to work.

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greendiva · 14/10/2021 16:11

Wow! I was going to say a bit of both until I got to him telling you what other women do, and that other people say you're lazy (who has he been talking to? How would they know what you do or don't do?). He has NO IDEA what he is talking about never having had even a day with his own child or months of broken sleep. When kids are small and you're sleep deprived the house will be a mess. No wonder you feel like shit he's horrible. He should be supporting you.

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billy1966 · 14/10/2021 16:23

@2catsandhappy

Plan a day out on your own. Leave all baby prep to him and give him a list of chores you expect to be done. Include a nice meal for you at the end of the day.
He will soon find out "..exactly what you do all day"
Nip this in the bud op!

He is a nasty, lazy, unsupportive prick.

Why are you with him?

Him telling you that people have said you are lazy is unforgivable.

I would be getting a bag together and going to your parents.

Cheeky fxxk asking what you are doing.

You are doing it all.

He needs to spend time with his child ON HIS OWN.

Do not get pregnant again.

Thank god you are going back to work.

He is a lazy disgrace.

I feel so sorry for you.

Reach out to your parents for support.

Lazy waster.

You poor pet.Flowers
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Starlight39 · 14/10/2021 16:25

So in his view, looking after baby is soooo easy you should be able to do all the housework/cooking etc, deal with broken sleep and require no time to yourself while looking after baby full time. But on the other hand, it's too hard for him to do any looking after of baby... Hmm. So which is it?? Confused.

He's talking bollocks about "other people".

What was he like before the baby came along? Either way, he really needs to step up.

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Perspectiveneeded44 · 14/10/2021 16:29

@Peace43

Next weekend pack yourself a picnic and go out for the day. Leave DH with the baby. Don’t set him up with new bottles etc.. come back at bedtime. Then moan at him about how much housework he hasn’t done! Repeat on Sunday if he didn’t learn something on Saturday.

I am going to do this.
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Lonelybrit · 14/10/2021 16:32

I’m in the process of leaving my DH who is abusive & what stood out to me here is he has/had exactly the same attitude as your DH. Nothing I ever did was good enough, comments about our place would be a hovel
If it wasn’t for him, what do i do all day? Sat on my fat arse tending to the babies every whim (breastfeeding ffs!) I could go on. His mother had 4 DC & didn’t work so his/dads/siblings needs were all catered for.

Your post stood out to me, nip this in the bud if you can, how he reacts to you standing up to him (& for yourself!) will tell you all you need to know about him & whether his mindset can be adjusted.

I rarely left my DC with him as all their needs/wants would be completely neglected so he could rest/clean Hmm sometimes it isn’t as easy to just leave them with the children. (Bloody ridiculous I know!)

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Perspectiveneeded44 · 14/10/2021 16:36

@Starlight39

So in his view, looking after baby is soooo easy you should be able to do all the housework/cooking etc, deal with broken sleep and require no time to yourself while looking after baby full time. But on the other hand, it's too hard for him to do any looking after of baby... Hmm. So which is it?? Confused.

He's talking bollocks about "other people".

What was he like before the baby came along? Either way, he really needs to step up.

He was grand before DS but we were some years without a baby.
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TravelLost · 14/10/2021 16:46

Yep. It sends very familiar.

Fir whatever reason, those very nice men who are able to pull their weight small back into the 1950s as soon as they become fathers Hmm

Even more reason to tell him to buckle up and get in with it. He can’t say he doesn’t know how to do things etc…

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Perspectiveneeded44 · 14/10/2021 16:50

@Jubaju

DH sounds like a complete douche.

Why doesn’t your baby nap for more than 10 mins?

I’d work on that, even if it’s just to sit and watch Netflix and eat snacks while they nap :) . Sleeping is really important for their brain development and they need roughly 2- 3 hours during the day at that age

My DS is gorgeous but stubborn I have no idea why and yet other days he will sleep in the day. The exception is if we have been in the car.

I know I need to try and get him down in the day but after literally an hour of screaming with me cuddling him I give in.
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Badabingbadabum · 14/10/2021 16:52

Ask him to see how many women he can find who can keep a tidy house with small children. And then from the names he hasn't had to make up to compile a list, how many of those say they feel rested and happy.

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Shamoo · 14/10/2021 16:52

Honestly if my other half accused me of being lazy because the house isn’t perfect when I’m up from 330am with a crying baby he would be given 24 hours to apologise and then he would be moving out. Seriously. What an absolute twat.

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