To ask if you’ve met an infamous criminal?

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Did they seem ‘normal’? Or did you get a strange feeling about them?

My DP was one, about 25 years ago.

I met Dean Lowe. He murdered a girl I went to school with, Kirby Noden, and wore a necklace made of her teeth. Only met him briefly and thought he was really odd and he gave me the creeps.

Years ago I worked in the tourist office in Edinburgh and we used to have to inspect the guest houses who were members of our accommodation booking scheme. One was run by a lovely elderly man who we all knew as Anton Gecas. Only later we found out he was a Nazi charged with murdering thousands of Jews in Lithuania and Belarus - he sadly died before he could be extradited and charged.

30 years on I still feel utterly sick to my stomach thinking about that man.

I was the Kray's mother's welfare lady. Lovely boys. They gave me some black silk bedding for Christmas. Alleged that they had stolen it from Harrods specially for me, since I helped their dear old mum.
In a professional context, I also knew Kenneth Noyes. Undiluted evil.
Denis Neilson murdered one of my service users: a young man who had known only rejection and cruelty. I was devastated.

I knew a local man (Andrew roberts) who burned his girlfriend and children alive in their home. She apparently cheated on him. He turned up at the pub I serve and announced he'd left her to burn. No one called the police and it was the day later he was arrested.

Thankfully I'd already been asked to leave a few weeks earlier because I "accused" him of honking my breast and asked my superior to make him leave . I was told I amount to nothing compared to him and I should be ashamed.

A new cleaner came into my old place of work one day. Her first day 'out' and working in quite a while she said. I recognised her but couldn't remember where from. I spoke to her & tried to extract info but still wasn't able. She was very well educated, well spoken and pleaant enough. Talked about her kids etc.seemed quiet and almost boring...

A few days later on the local news, XXX has had their conviction for the murder of her husband quashed & has been acquitted by a jury. She had an affair with a work colleague. Her and her lover savagely killed the unsuspecting husband.

She appeared the next week and said she was moving away as being in the local area again was tough. The premises, my work, was approx 2miles from the house whetr the attack happened, so very very close to home & people recognised her as it was a very high profile case in a rather sleepy town otherwise.

I have googled her now and again throughout the years and see she has remarried, not to the AP but to a religious born again type. She seems 'happy' but still has a haunted look behind her eyes IYKWIM? The AP is actually coming up for parole very soon, he had a pretty prestigious public facing job, think one of the 999 services

I met Prince Andrew.

@BaronessKareness How do you deal with it?
Was it an accident?
I know there is different types of murderer's sometimes a 2nd chance is deserved, other times they should throw away the key.

I've met an ex-bank robber a few times. He was absolutely charming, genuinely very caring and a total gentleman.

Yes, many years before he murdered someone for money. Used to hang out as kids!

Not me, but a colleague worked with Shipman when he was a junior doctor and she was a staff nurse. She said he was normal but a knob who had a massive superiority complex - she remembered he used to get very rude and annoyed if a lowly nurse pointed out a job he had missed etc. But essentially a normal if unpleasant doctor.

I met the German accused of killing Madeline McCann.

It was only a brief encounter and at the time I didn’t realise but I still remember it very clearly as his eyes looked right through me. He didn’t seem on the planet.

I recognised him immediately from the photo on Crimewatch.

Yes, I have. They seemed normal.

Worked with two men who murdered their partners, one who was on Crimewatch for committing armed robbery and one who is in prison for extreme child pornography.
The last one was a mentor of mine and I liked and respected him very much.
It was such a horrible shock.

I met a convicted pedophile during one of my earliest jobs. He was dropping his girlfriend’s child to nursery. Contacted social services and the girl was moved to foster carers out of the area and then eventually adopted because the Mum wouldn’t leave him.

@Brollywasntneededafterall

My dm went to school with Mary Bell...

Was she frightened of her?

I was friendly with a guy who frequented my pub. He was arrested some years ago for encouraging his mistress to kill his wife. Still claims he had nothing to do with it. Still in prison. He was a ladies man, slimey and very very charming

My dm said she seemed a troubled girl.

I had a thing with someone who went on to murder someone. It was all over the news where I live and as soon as I seen their face in the news after being charged, I felt sick!

My uncle was a detective and interviewed Peter Sutcliffe a few times after he was imprisoned. He said he came across as insignificant.

My grandad was a safecracker for the Krays. I never met him, as he left my gran when my mum was 5. She says he was a very quiet man.

@EmeraldShamrock

He told me within an hour of meeting, told me to Google him and after I read all about it, we talked and talked.
I don’t want to “out” him so I can’t say too much, but I’ll answer what I can.
It was a manslaughter conviction.
It affects many parts of his life, even all these years later. Much regrets it.
He has always been very honest about it, and I have read all the paperwork.
I don’t mind answering any questions.

Well, I did meet a locally infamous criminal, but before he committed the crime. He was my neighbor, and he murdered his wife shorty after they met me, and invited me to visit with them in their home. She was lovely, but he gave me the creeps, and I just...kept putting them off. Once she was killed, I was so thankful that I had not gotten any closer to the wife than I had.

Oh yes. My neighbour committed an infamous heist. I would trust him with my life.