To ask if you’ve met an infamous criminal?

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Did they seem ‘normal’? Or did you get a strange feeling about them?

I’ve never met him but my mum has spoke to him since he has been realised, very woe is me.

I was at a party with Gary Glitter. Cindy and Bianca from Eastenders were there too. GG was fun. Also briefly met Rolf Harris, he was grumpy.

Work in a prison mental health team. In my experience it’s rare to get weird vibes off people apart from sex offenders who often give me chills.

@Naturenurture

Work in a prison mental health team. In my experience it’s rare to get weird vibes off people apart from sex offenders who often give me chills.

I’ve met two sex offenders. One very notorious and one prolific but less famous.

Both were charming but both gave me a chilling feeling. Other people were very charmed by them both.

Met numerous sex offenders and paedophiles through my job.

Have also met a double murderer who is now a well thought of member of the community…

I used to work in a nightclub in West london and met Levi Bellfield a couple of times.
I didn’t realise till he was caught but was very thrown when I immediately recognised him on the news.
Just seemed like a typical Bouncer type, bit stand off-ish but otherwise normal.

@ilovepixie

Jimmy Saville. I lived opposite Stoke mandeville hospital and used to see him around the hospital and the local shop. He used to go and talk to schoolgirls at the bus stop. I didn't really pay him much attention but the hospital nurses hated him.

I broke my back as a teen in 2000 and they wanted to send me to Stoke mandeville but luckily for me they had an outbreak of a superbug so I was sent to a different orthopaedic hospital. Makes me shudder just thinking about it.

Not famous but in my early 20s I worked for a while with a man who was later convicted of multiple counts of indecent assault against multiple children. It would have been going on while I worked with him. I never had any weird feeling about him at all, he always seemed like a nice, normal chap and I was genuinely shocked when I found out. Unfortunately the sentence he received was laughable.

I went to school with someone who has killed 2 people and abducted / sexually assaulted a 3rd. He was vile then, even as a 14 year old child. We all said at the time that he would end up in prison.

I worked with someone who killed 3 people including his mother. He was obviously very disturbed and we all worried that he would commit a terrible crime one day.

I also worked with someone who was grooming underage girls. No one had any idea, never in a million years would I have suspected it.

@TheGirlCat - Yes, in Brisbane.

@IcaMorgan
"I also saw a gynaecologist once and he gave me the creeps so much I refused to go back. 7 years later he killed his wife by throwing her off a balcony and hitting her in the head with a hammer"

That was my family member he murdered. He always creeped me out even as a child. It destroyed our family completely a d the two kids are now incredibly fucked up adults.

My Auntie was property hunting just after WW2 around Chelsea, looking in a shop window. A quietly spoken man tapped her on the shoulder & explained Chelsea was rough in parts (!!???) that he was a landlord & had better rooms to let in Notting hill/North Kensington. He took her details & wrote to her a year later saying he had rooms to let & giving an address. She had a sixth sense not to go but kept the letter. He turned out to be John Reginald Christie, the infamous women murderer of Rillington Place. She informed the police but kept it to herself until years later as traumatized & was on a Ch 4 documentary some years back. She said he was pleasant enough but weirdly creepy & chilling, Auntie had good 'horse sense'.

[quote ImprobablePuffin]@IcaMorgan
"I also saw a gynaecologist once and he gave me the creeps so much I refused to go back. 7 years later he killed his wife by throwing her off a balcony and hitting her in the head with a hammer"

That was my family member he murdered. He always creeped me out even as a child. It destroyed our family completely a d the two kids are now incredibly fucked up adults.[/quote]
If I remember correctly in the papers it said she’d asked for a new fridge as theirs was playing up and he bought one home from the hospital that had been used to store things in the lab and she objected to it. If that’s true it shows just how nasty a person he was

I’m not surprised his kids are fucked up as adults, I’ve never forgotten how he made me feel and I was only with him for 10 mins before I walked out and couldn’t imagine spending years with him

My sister went to college with and on a night out with a lady who killed her twin boys :-(

That's terrible, puffin, I'm sorry to hear of the inevitable effects on your family and hope you all manage to cope somehow. Very best wishes to all concerned.

I was in a house share with a man who many years later murdered his wife and baby son. Terrifically sad and I would say we'd been friends. I would never ever have thought it possible.

@IcaMorgan
"If I remember correctly in the papers it said she’d asked for a new fridge as theirs was playing up and he bought one home from the hospital that had been used to store things in the lab and she objected to it. If that’s true it shows just how nasty a person he was

I’m not surprised his kids are fucked up as adults, I’ve never forgotten how he made me feel and I was only with him for 10 mins before I walked out and couldn’t imagine spending years with him"

Yes he was incredibly tight. For her 40th he took her and some friends out to eat, at McDonald's. They were incredibly wealthy but he controlled everything. She was so tired of it all she planned to leave but he didn't want to split 'his' money 50/50 so he attacked her after she returned from the school run one morning. Evil man. Worst part is he controls the daughter now and she lives with him.

I did HCP training, and my mentor treated one of the Kray twins.

I've met a young child who I'd be surprised if he doesn't end up in the papers some day for committing a horrible crime.

I wouldn't leave him alone with a goldfish.

I know a woman who (unknowingly) married a serial killer. For a while they thought she was involved.

I was 16. Walked to my friends house on my way home from a school exam to pick up some stuff I’d left there. Saw her mums best friends’ car in the drive and decided they were probably having a catch up girly afternoon; They would be lots of fun but may tease me about having a crush on my best friends brother so I didn’t go in. Found out later the mums best friend wasn’t there , it was her boyfriend driving her car. He was trying to create his alibi. He’d just killed his partner in the last hour with a baseball bat and was sitting at the kitchen table talking about their future plans . She left two boys. She was lovely. he lied himself into a corner and killed her to save face

I very briefly met Peter Tobin as a teenager. He used to bring his car to the garage I had a weekend job in. I didn't get any creepy vibes from him, and neither did any of the female service dept staff, but our male boss did and insisted on dealing with him.

Somewhat ironically said boss - who everyone absolutely loved - was convicted a few years ago of abusing his wife for many years. I've often wondered if that was how/why he got the vibe from Tobin, because he recognised it from himself.

@MrsToothyBitch

Can't remember really just remember him being quite naughty at times.

I worked closely with a gang of teenagera as part of a community service, many years ago. One of them recently committed a gruesome murder and has previously been in prison for a pretry shocking attack on a homeless man. I can't say he came across any more troubled or violent than any of the other teenage boys in my area. It was a pretty deprived part of the country ao casual violence, drinking, drug dealing amd skipping school was pretty standard behaviour. I knew the couple who helped him dispose of the body too and they were very troubled individuals (one of them was married to my cousin for a while so I know them quite well).

I also sat next to a girl in my tutor group at school who killed someone and got charged with manslaughter. She was a very strange sort though, there was definitely something bad going on in her home life. She was very smelly and withdrawn, had no friends etc. She is on my facebook now and seems much morw together and happy.

I"ve also known a lot of drug dealers and sex offenders as a result of growing up in a deprived area (lots of council housing and sheltered housing where people are sent when they come out of prison or rehab). I'll be honest, it is incredibly hard to tell who is troubled e.g. drug addiction, mental illness, alcoholism and who is troubled and dangerous. I'm not sure there really is that clear of a dividing line to be honest. I think a lot of people who have problems and bad upbringings are just lucky that they haven't been in a situation where they have committed a serious crime.

@felulageller

I've met a young child who I'd be surprised if he doesn't end up in the papers some day for committing a horrible crime.

I wouldn't leave him alone with a goldfish.

as a teacher I have met one child like this. Plenty who you knew sadly would get into trouble with the police for various reasons, but most of those were just life a circumstances type of thing (very deprived area)

But one, bloody hell he was like Damien from The Omen.
He was small and very tidy and neat, very very polite and nicely spoken, he had no friends, because he just wasn't interested in other children. He had an obsession with fire. He asked very strange questions, and he, frankly, was scary.
But he was just a little boy! 7 years old.
He had been found watching a house burn down. There were suspicions that he started it, but no evidence.
Our classroom was next to the art room, with a fully working kiln. He managed to get the kiln turned on (about 5 safety steps, which you needed to look up in the book locked in the teachers desk) one day while the class were tidying up before break. None of us even saw him go in there.

I really fully expect that he will have committed several arson attacks by now. That was in 1991. So he would be in his 30's now.

I wish I could remember his name so I could look him up.