to think what Boris Johnson has said today is unacceptable?

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first he has said (I'm guessing as a sop to commercial landlords complaining about properties being abandoned by businesses) that everyone needs to go back to work because they will be gossiped about:

"You have got to be able to come in, you have got to know what everyone else is talking about – otherwise you are going to be gossiped about and you are going to lose out"

Really? Firstly so what? and secondly, it's basically condoning bullying as a reason to get back to work.

Then he has said

'It's not the job of government to come in and try and fix every problem in business and industry."

Boris says it is 'not my job to fix all of the UK's problems': PM’s astonishing claim as he denies nation is in 'crisis' and DISMISSES inflation spike fears, fuel shortages and empty supermarket shelves as 'just part of his new approach'

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10060043/Boris-denies-claims-supply-chain-chaos-just-ending-UKs-low-wage-economy.html

So he's saying workers need to keep their best interests in mind to get ahead and that businesses need to be in control of their own affairs? Sounds pretty Conservative to me.

I’m no Boris fan, but I can’t see an issue with either of those. Yes, most people should be back at work now. No, the government can’t solve all issues. What’s wrong with that?

Its already happenibg. People where i work are mostly coming in 1 day a week etc, but there are people refusing to come in at all, and yea they are being talked about, and will miss out. and will likely struggle when coming back into the office 1/2days a week is enforced.

Wfh worked well when everyone was at home full time, but now its more of a hybrid i wouldn't not want to jot be in the office on the days my team go in

Tbf, It's not the job of government to come in and try and fix every problem in business and industry. Is pretty much the core principle of Tory politics, right?

It's not my cup of tea but it's what I'd expect if I ordered it.

I wouldn't expect him to say anything else, would you? According to Boris none of this is down to his maladministration.

My PIL will buy it all though, hook, line and sinker.

I thought this thread was going to be about ‘irresponsible crusties’

Almost everything he says in unacceptable.

When will people stop being surprised that he is a nasty piece of work who gives NO shits about morals, decent behaviour, the welfare of the ordinary person, the welfare of the country, or anything but lining their own pockets and shoving their dicks in something wet and warm.

Well, he's right that it's not the govt's job to set employment practices. That's between employer and employees.

As for being gossiped about - really!!! Who cares? Just achieve your kpis, maintain good contact with your colleagues and show that wfh can be a success.

@EllieSattler

Almost everything he says in unacceptable.

When will people stop being surprised that he is a nasty piece of work who gives NO shits about morals, decent behaviour, the welfare of the ordinary person, the welfare of the country, or anything but lining their own pockets and shoving their dicks in something wet and warm.

This

I've been at work throughout. Just at work at home. No need to go to the office.

No one's in the office to gossip about me so I'm not worried 😂

Actually I think not having the negative gossip that being in the office creates is a big plus to home working.

I totally agree that the government shouldn't fix every little issue but I do hold the government accountable for creating the conditions, structural and economic for us to succeed as a country. This government has not done that.

• made it far harder to export to our biggest trading block
• made it harder and more expensive to import from our biggest trading block
• enabled a workforce shortage
• watched a skills gap emerge (truck driver licenses)

It's not the job of government to come in and try and fix every problem in business and industry.

No, but it's apparently perfectly alright for the government to cause every problem in business and industry. And then wash their hands of it, blaming everyone else who is just trying to make their business work.

Nothing wrong with what he said, most companies recognise that sometimes you need to work together in person. My public sector company is already started to say come back at least 2 days a week.

And er hello we live in a capitalist driven world, not socialism so he is right when hebsaysbits not for him to fix all businesses problem. I means lrts already see what furlough has done driven up our taxes thats for sure for bailing out businesses to keep jobs going. Bailing ourlt energy companies and now we will all be slammed with additional £30 to cover that.

Can't remember when he last said something that was useful, illuminating or informed tbh.

Tory world of dog eat dog, isn't it? Plays very well with many users of this forum.

@MintJulia but when we look at the current problems - HGV driver shortages, empty shelves, pigs being killed without entering the food chain, the public being more financially stretched for everyday life(and the NI increase is yet to be implemented) - Johnson & co are busily pointing to industry, the public, the media, basically anywhere but at their policies and actions.

Johnson is right that it's 'not my job to fix all of the UK's problems' However, as he has been absolutely instrumental in creating many of the current problems, I don't think he should get off the hook that lightly!

I’m no Tory, but Johnson is right about this. Businesses have known for years that free movement was going to end with Brexit. They knew that business models based on limitless cheap migrant workers would have to change. It’s not his fault that Tesco & BP haven’t trained enough HGV drivers or that the food production & hospitality industries haven’t made jobs more attractive to British workers.

@AttaGirrrrl

I’m no Boris fan, but I can’t see an issue with either of those. Yes, most people should be back at work now. No, the government can’t solve all issues. What’s wrong with that?

I agree.

I think a lot of his buddies are giving him a hard time about their commercial property investments dropping through the floor.

And his actions have created the extremely difficult environment for businesses in the UK - notwithstanding the Covid crisis.

He's quick to adopt others' successes as his own, but teflon when it comes to acknowledging any sort of responsibility for anything slightly difficult Brexit was and is his flagship achievement, so if it's causing difficulties then it would not seem rational to look elsewhere for culpability.

Usually he talks shit but I kind of agree with him on this.
Is there really any reason why people shouldn't be back in the office now? Virtually everyone who wants to be jabbed at least once if not twice. Doesn't really affect me as I had to go in to work throughout but I do get a bit annoyed by people refusing to go back now.
No it's not the job of the government to fix everything either. Time for people to take some responsibility I think.

Maybe he spends his day gossiping and slagging other people off. I don't.
He need to quit ASAP

Why do people always preface their comments with 'I'm no Tory' or 'I'm no Boris fan'?

Apparently, there are no Tories or Boris fans out there, so it's quite remarkable how he managed to become PM.

Everything BJohnson says is shit. So it's not surprising when he says more shit. What is surprising is that people fall for his shit and carry on voting for it.

I’ve worked full time from home for 11 years. As far as I know no one gossips about me!!

@AttaGirrrrl

I’m no Boris fan, but I can’t see an issue with either of those. Yes, most people should be back at work now. No, the government can’t solve all issues. What’s wrong with that?

I agree. In my office the people who haven't returned have been spoken about, its been noticed. Now they've been told by management they have got to come back to the office.

I think a lot of people and employers have realised that productivity has not diminished, yet costs have quite nicely, due to wfh, and don't feel any compulsion to get everyone back to the office full-time.

That's up to businesses/organisations. Funny he should wade in, apart from what I've already mentioned re: commercial property values.

@AttaGirrrrl

I’m no Boris fan, but I can’t see an issue with either of those. Yes, most people should be back at work now. No, the government can’t solve all issues. What’s wrong with that?

Not really the point. It's not about whether people should be back at work; as the OP says, it's about the reasons he gives –he's saying a) workplace gossip and bullying goes on and b) that should be motivating people.

And the fuel shortages and empty supermarket shelves ARE absolutely his fault. His Brexit project, his shit-show.

I mean, I'm not surprised –I'm with EllieSattler. It is reprehensible though.