Extinction Rebellion co-founder says he would block an ambulance carrying a dying patient

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How can anyone support this bunch of nasty idiots who are willing to commit what can only be described as murder. How can anyone justify this? Imagine how you would feel it was one of you family members in that ambulance, this man would not hesitate to cause their death.

@eggsandwich

Would he feel the same if it was his loved ones, I suspect not.

I don't know. I'm getting a strong whiff of narcissist from the little I've seen/read about him. Me me me me. Do people like that have loved ones?

It seems unlikely that ER would endorse a statement like that so makes sense that the organisation has disowned RH. They do allow ambulances through on protests so far as I am aware.

@tenredthings

ER are doing everything they can to get climate change in the front of peoples thoughts. Climate Change is a huge tsunami approaching us and people don't want to look at it. We are running out of time !

The ambulance comment is straight out of the Trump schoolbook of what the fuckery. Say something super controversial and outrageous, everyone talks about it in an outraged manner but the core message Climate Change will hopefully enter people's consciousness enough to promote the action needed. The fact is the protesters do get out of the way of ambulances. Their goal is to promote change. Being outrageous gets media coverage and sometimes negative coverage gets the core message out there faster.

It’s such an own goal. Yes it gets media coverage but it also makes people very angry and less interested in their cause. If someone tried to encourage me to give money to Insulate Britain or XR I’d laugh in their face. There HAS to be a very way to make a point than gluing yourself to roads, trains and planes. Perhaps they should invest their time working out how to hack Facebook and WhatsApp. That got global coverage last night!

tenredthings

ER are doing everything they can to get climate change in the front of peoples thoughts. Climate Change is a huge tsunami approaching us and people don't want to look at it. We are running out of time

They might be getting climate change in front of people but pissing everyone off is likely to do the opposite of what is intended

Why do all their protests involve adding to the carbon footprint and doing the opposite of what they seem to want.

All this statement does is put these protesters at risk because people think if they don’t care about the person in the ambulance then why should we care about the protesters.

If a loved one was in an ambulance and needed to get to hospital I personally would drive over these people because they don’t care about me and my loved one so why should I care about them

@Franklyfrost

Ecocide is genocide. He’s not doing himself any favours by saying it out loud but he’s right. The dying person in the ambulance has human drama. But the fact that the dying person could be one of the 50,000 deaths a year in the uk from air pollution (house of commons air audit 2010) isn’t as dramatic.

How fucking disgusting can you get? ‘Human drama’? That’s someone’s loved one, not human drama for them to exploit.

When my mum was taken in an ambulance I really couldn’t give a shit about 50000 people, I only cared about her and if someone like Roger Hallam or his idiot followers had tried to stop me I’d have done more than shout

Watching the videos of the morons sitting there in the road gives me the rage.

Run them over. They'll soon learn.

I'm sure they'll be much less inclined to sit in the road blocking ambulances if it's them needing one.

@PurpleParrotfish

But when Extinction Rebellion block roads they do let ambulances through. It’s a huge diverse group of people and I think pretty much all of them would be shocked by RH’s statement as well. Whatever you think of their tactics of causing inconvenience to draw attention to the fact we are fucking up our planet’s life support system, they are not signed up to kill people. I know RH is one of the founders but he should have been booted out of XR when he went to Germany and trivialised the Holocaust. By the way, Insulate Britain, the M25 lot, are a different group.

Silage Britain are an off shoot of X-RAYS and run by the same twats

@prudencepuffin

It seems unlikely that ER would endorse a statement like that so makes sense that the organisation has disowned RH. They do allow ambulances through on protests so far as I am aware.

Yes, but as I mentioned above, it's all very well letting an ambulance through if you can see it. What about all the other ones stuck miles away? It doesn't take very much to snarl up the traffic on London's roads. Insulate Britain don't apply for official permission for their protests. They just turn up and sit down and look sanctimonious. This means the police don't have time to liaise with the emergency services to sort out alternative routes for ambulances etc. It's selfish and dangerous for IB to behave like this, and they don't care.

XR

@NautaOcts

Isn’t it Insulate Britain rather than Extinction Rebellion who are doing the most recent road blocks?

Yes but they are an offshoot of ER and dear Roger has a foot in both camps

Surely if the planet warms by a few degrees we won’t be needing the insulation anyway?

[quote PurpleParrotfish]Thought so - Extinction Rebellion have put out a statement saying Roger Hallam does not speak for them and is not in any way a ‘leader’ of XR. extinctionrebellion.uk/2021/10/05/5th-october-statement/[/quote]
Hmm don’t believe a word

None should be blocking roads, end off and both groups are guilty of this

Why should someone have to ask them to move for an ambulance? Every minute counts in an emergency. What about ambulances back in the traffic!

They are terrorists.

@NautaOcts

Isn’t it Insulate Britain rather than Extinction Rebellion who are doing the most recent road blocks?

Yes they are. And insulate Britain proved what this idiot is saying. They are all cut from the same cloth. Anyone who thinks these people are doing this for environmental reasons is mistaken. They doing it for self publicity and self indulgence. They actually DID block an ambulance with a woman who was dying and is now paralysed as a results.

@MephistophelesApprentice

They're a minority willing to use extreme, potentially lethal methods to force political change on a majority. They're terrorists who lack the conviction for full violence, so settle for a pathetic alternative that can cause just as much harm but let's them feel better about themselves.

What's worse is they're giving the bloody Tories the perfect excuse (and public support) to clamp down and reduce the right to legitimate protest. A blind, arrogant blunder that will have even worse consequences over time.

Exactly this. If our political masters had the brains to pull off a conspiracy one could almost suspect a conspiracy.

Very convenient to have a bunch of aggressively stupid protests being made by a rag tag bunch of self righteous deluded envirMENTALists just when legislation about the same thing is passing through the House of Lords and have public opinion overwhelmingly in favour of clamping down on protest.

They have a cause, but are going about it completely the wrong way. They are modern day terrorists. They are doing more harm than good. They are also completely 'thick as pigshit' to say openly they are happy to block ambulances transporting people in need of urgent medical care. Something they do actually have the power to control and they choose the morally wrong and selfish option. They're totally unhinged and this will sway mass public opinion away from them.

Extinction Rebellion seems to define itself as a movement rather than an organisation:

We organise in small, autonomous groups distributed around the world. These groups are connected in a complex web that is constantly evolving as we grow and learn. We are working to build a movement that is participatory, decentralised, and inclusive.

So while it’s not true to say that anyone is the leader, it’s also not possible to disassociate from anyone either. Anyone who claims to be part of the movement is part of the movement.

@tenredthings

ER are doing everything they can to get climate change in the front of peoples thoughts. Climate Change is a huge tsunami approaching us and people don't want to look at it. We are running out of time !

The ambulance comment is straight out of the Trump schoolbook of what the fuckery. Say something super controversial and outrageous, everyone talks about it in an outraged manner but the core message Climate Change will hopefully enter people's consciousness enough to promote the action needed. The fact is the protesters do get out of the way of ambulances. Their goal is to promote change. Being outrageous gets media coverage and sometimes negative coverage gets the core message out there faster.

They are going about it the wrong way. All it’s doing is pissing off the great majority who believe ER are incapable of proper discussion about climate change.

I, along with millions of others, do what I can, even if a bit inconvenient , but really once they start I am tempted to stop doing those inconvenient bits

Terrorists plain and simple as far as I'm concerned.

I'm not convinced by Insulate Britain at all , or by their motives , which seem to be antogonising the public rather than bringing them onside and encouraging more draconian laws.

They are all scum and I don’t give a flying fuck that they think they are raising awareness and saving the planet.
What gives them the right to block roads and disrupt the public from their everyday lives. People are sick of them and any tolerance to them is fast being depleted. We saw yesterday ordinary people dragging them off the roads as they can’t rely on the police doing anything. We are only going to see more of this and sooner or later someone is going to be seriously hurt.
I watched that woman on the news yesterday pleading with the scum to move out the way as her 81 year old mum was being taken to hospital and she needed to get to her. Made me feel sick that this poor woman had to beg these scum for a little human decency.

@prudencepuffin

It seems unlikely that ER would endorse a statement like that so makes sense that the organisation has disowned RH. They do allow ambulances through on protests so far as I am aware.

Sure they have. Like all tyrannical political movements disown people who say the ‘wrong thing’. Let’s not be fooled, the entire movement is crooked and and they want to hurt people. They dont care about the environment, that’s just a front.

Both Insulate Britain and Extinction Rebellion are collectives of absolute arseholes. They really are. They will soon have blood on their hands if they don’t already. I fully support both their causes but their methods are counterproductive, unacceptable and I’d like to see the police take a much firmer stance tackling these obstructions. Everyone has a right to protest, these aren’t protests they are obstructions.

@DotBall

Surely if the planet warms by a few degrees we won’t be needing the insulation anyway?

In my dark thoughts I can see the benefit of human extinction as we’d be taking these pricks with us.

FYI white supremacists also enjoy running over people with their cars at BLM protests that block roads. I guess which side are the terrorists depends on your point of view.