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AIBU to wonder how the fuck is LEMON a "MC food"

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Wazzzzzzzup · 02/10/2021 11:22

amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/oct/02/food-choices-proxy-class-britain

What the hell, people😂 What. The. Hell.

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HollyandIvyandAllThingsYule · 02/10/2021 18:48

@forinborin I’m very interested in the yuzu plants! Have started learning to cook Japanese and was looking at buying some juice for now but long term would love to be able to grow them! Have you any recommendations for a good supplier here in the U.K.?

forinborin · 02/10/2021 18:53

[quote HollyandIvyandAllThingsYule]@forinborin I’m very interested in the yuzu plants! Have started learning to cook Japanese and was looking at buying some juice for now but long term would love to be able to grow them! Have you any recommendations for a good supplier here in the U.K.?[/quote]
I don't want to start a mud slinging contest, but I had a favourite supplier of all garden things and they don't deliver to the UK anymore due to Brexit - Lubera. Fingers crossed they will find a way in 2022 - at least they promised to look into it. Bought my yuzu from them two years ago, and it is amazing.

I know there's a dedicated citrus nursery in the UK and people praised them a lot, but have never ordered from them personally (and they seem to be quite expensive too!)

BarbaraofSeville · 02/10/2021 18:59

Ooh, interesting on the yuzu. M&S have started selling yuzu flavoured sparkling water and I think I knew it was a type of citrus, but I didn't know it would grow in the UK, although I would question whether that would be anywhere, or just the drier sunnier regions.

I live in the epicentre of the rhubarb triangle, so called because our particularly cold, wet climate is perfect for growing rhubarb. Therefore if yuzu is expecting Brighton or Norfolk, it might not be quite so successful.

I still find this all very strange. Most of these 'middle class' foods really are very inexpensive. You could set yourself up for months worth of tasty affordable spiced food for under a tenner with a few 100 g packs of Asian branded spices which cost about 70 p each in most supermarkets, along with cubes of frozen garlic and ginger, which is far cheaper than fresh. Plus its not like the knowledge is hard to come by, you can't move for cookery shows and recipes on the internet. Just about anyone could learn if they wanted to.

I'm as working class as they come btw, so I speak from experience of learning about all the 'new' foods and ingredients that have become everyday over the last few decades.

julieca · 02/10/2021 19:03

@BarbaraofSeville its i because these things are relatively new to Britain in terms of being cheap and easy to get. You couldn't get garlic or ginger or many of those spices outside a few big cities when I was young. My best friend at school was from Pakistan, and they simply could not buy a lot of food they were used to.

forinborin · 02/10/2021 19:09

Ooh, interesting on the yuzu. M&S have started selling yuzu flavoured sparkling water and I think I knew it was a type of citrus, but I didn't know it would grow in the UK, although I would question whether that would be anywhere, or just the drier sunnier regions.
Yes, I must give a health warning here probably that I am in Kent!

Wazzzzzzzup · 02/10/2021 19:09

You couldn't get garlic or ginger or many of those spices outside a few big cities when I was young.

Did you people not have garlic? 😱
This thread explains so much about flavour in Uk

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Porcupineintherough · 02/10/2021 19:14

Grin garlic was totally "foreign muck" in the suburban 1970s. As were spices (other than for cakes), most herbs and well, anything with flavour really.
Thank fuck for international travel, it really helped normalise a whole range of foods.

Wazzzzzzzup · 02/10/2021 19:17

@Porcupineintherough

Grin garlic was totally "foreign muck" in the suburban 1970s. As were spices (other than for cakes), most herbs and well, anything with flavour really. Thank fuck for international travel, it really helped normalise a whole range of foods.
Oh my god. I can get over a lot, but lack of garlic😂 That's just fascinating since it even grows here ok.

Yeah. It explains a lot😱

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StrychnineInTheSandwiches · 02/10/2021 19:18

The only yuzu I've had so far has been the yuzu flavoured Haagen Dazs

julieca · 02/10/2021 19:20

Garlic was impossible to get in many places in the 70's and most Brits had never tasted it until they went on holiday abroad. I remember going on holiday to a cottage in Anglesey in the early nineties, and I couldn't find any garlic in Anglesey at all.
I remember having to buy in the 80s some kind of dried garlic in a spice pot because I couldn't find fresh garlic.
Bloody hell I remember when kiwis were exotic and every TV chef seemed to use sliced kiwis. My mum remembers having to go to an Italian deli to buy spaghetti.
The widespread availability of lots of foodstuffs is really pretty recent.

julieca · 02/10/2021 19:22

I didn't actually know the strong-smelling sweet flower in the local woods was wild garlic. We had a local name for it.

Wazzzzzzzup · 02/10/2021 19:22

I googled and garlic should have been here since 1500s😱 what did you people use to ward off vampires?!

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BarbaraofSeville · 02/10/2021 19:24

@Wazzzzzzzup

You couldn't get garlic or ginger or many of those spices outside a few big cities when I was young.

Did you people not have garlic? 😱
This thread explains so much about flavour in Uk

I can't remember about garlic, but I've already admitted that we had asparagus growing like weeds but we didn't know what to do with it so didn't eat it.

Olive oil was used only for softening earwax and only available in small bottles from pharmacies.

I don't know why I wanted one or where I'd learned about it, but some time around 1980 I tried to buy a pomegranate in a greengrocers and they had no idea what it was.

forinborin · 02/10/2021 19:24

Well, I am so glad now to have started this ultra middle-middle class homegrown yuzu revolution, and feel so superior... i hope all of you see now that lemons and garlic are SO last century Grin

LukeEvansWife · 02/10/2021 19:24

@AlfonsoTheDinosaur

Lentils are lovely with tomato sauce, rice and dried chilos or in a vegetarian shepherd's pie (with tomato sauce in place of gravy). Or cold in a salad with roast pepper strips, black olives, red onions and parsley.
Lentils with rice? In the same dish?
StrychnineInTheSandwiches · 02/10/2021 19:25

Yeah kiwis were so fancy in the 80s! Grin

A life without garlic would be too bleak to consider. Wine is another Mediterranean staple that has been embraced with gusto. In the 80s it seemed to me (as a kid) that Le Piat d'Or had cornered the wine market for people too sophisticated for Blue Nun and all the other 70s faves. Now every supermarket sells about 100 wines.

LukeEvansWife · 02/10/2021 19:25

@Wazzzzzzzup

I googled and garlic should have been here since 1500s😱 what did you people use to ward off vampires?!
Depends - if it's Aidan Turner or Claes Bang, nothing at all Grin
Wazzzzzzzup · 02/10/2021 19:27

@forinborin

Well, I am so glad now to have started this ultra middle-middle class homegrown yuzu revolution, and feel so superior... i hope all of you see now that lemons and garlic are SO last century Grin
Garlic is NEVER last century😂 As you can see I am a big fan. Grow my own as well (cause shop ones are shite usually)
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Wazzzzzzzup · 02/10/2021 19:27

@LukeEvansWife 😂

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LukeEvansWife · 02/10/2021 19:28

@Porcupineintherough

Grin garlic was totally "foreign muck" in the suburban 1970s. As were spices (other than for cakes), most herbs and well, anything with flavour really. Thank fuck for international travel, it really helped normalise a whole range of foods.
I agree. Very few people had it. To be fair, I haven't had the benefit of international travel having only had a two night stay in France many years ago for a rugby trip.
forinborin · 02/10/2021 19:31

As you can see I am a big fan. Grow my own as well (cause shop ones are shite usually)
Ah, me too. A tough heritage hardneck, brought from back home. I think garlic loses a lot of flavour in the first 24 hours after being pulled out (or maybe I am just imagining it).

Wazzzzzzzup · 02/10/2021 19:32

Soooooo. Is garlic cross class now or class contained?🤔

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Wazzzzzzzup · 02/10/2021 19:33

@forinborin tough heritage hardneck zend by my family from back home...
I have them hanging in a kitchen and part in a freezer. New bulbs are coming soon

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forinborin · 02/10/2021 19:34

[quote Wazzzzzzzup]@forinborin tough heritage hardneck zend by my family from back home...
I have them hanging in a kitchen and part in a freezer. New bulbs are coming soon[/quote]
I just pull them out from the bed if and when I need them... I am lazy Blush

Wazzzzzzzup · 02/10/2021 19:37

😂 i even learned (kind of) how to plaid them. Foreign high five to you garlic mate.

Everyone, Lidl will have EE week so if you want to have some fun 😁😁😁
www.lidl.co.uk/p/flavour-of-the-week-eastern-europe/slivovica/p46059

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