AIBU to wonder how the fuck is LEMON a "MC food"

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amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/oct/02/food-choices-proxy-class-britain

What the hell, people😂 What. The. Hell.

All those are just for. For heaven's sake, you can get a croissant from Burger King.

@RampantIvy

I grew up in Croydon where we had a brilliant market and a delicatessen. My mum could get all sorts of "foreign muck".

I disagree @Comedycook.Everyone I know cooks, even if it is Hello Fresh or similar.

I haven't cooked a meal in many, many years. I can cook but hate doing it. So I don't bother. I eat mainly cold food anyway.

Hello Fresh is still cooking - it's just elevated to super wanky - pay a fortune for someone to deliver a recipe and some bits and pieces.

It sounds like a lot of these ingredients have to go into things like stews. It sounds like a total arse ache but I appreciate if you enjoy it, it probably isn't

I meant that in response to the posts asserting that working class communities had stopped cooking centuries ago.

I think you are referring to my post- what I meant was in the UK cooking from fresh appears more expensive where as in Africa and similar places it is the norm and because it's not just the cost of the food its the time as well which is often what puts a lot of people off.

I know people who don't cook. They are not that interested really in food, and just see it as fuel.

@PreparationPreparationPrep depends a lot on where you live and shop. The vast majority of people buying fruit and veg at our city market are not mc.

OP, I spent 15 years as a non- brit in Britain, wasn't done learning about the class system at the end of that.

At first I thought it a sort of harmless folklore, then realised it has teeth. Left partly because I didn't want to help reproduce it, which, working at an Oxbridge college, I inevitably did.

@julieca

I know people who don't cook. They are not that interested really in food, and just see it as fuel.

I love food. I'm just lazy and would rather eat something straight out of the supermarket

I grew up in Croydon where we had a brilliant market and a delicatessen. My mum could get all sorts of "foreign muck".

Was this the 70/80's - or are people still using this expression?

@PreparationPreparationPrep

I've heard a lot about orka, but am still not sure what it looks like.

Have a google - i think the texture when cooked is something you either love or hate it tastes delicious in the right stew or soup though.

We have okra stew in a freezer. Yes i agree it's something you either love or hate texture wise 😂 They sell frozen one in some Asdas.

Is hello fresh more 'super wanky' than having macdonalds delivered

@ThreeLocusts

OP, I spent 15 years as a non- brit in Britain, wasn't done learning about the class system at the end of that.

At first I thought it a sort of harmless folklore, then realised it has teeth. Left partly because I didn't want to help reproduce it, which, working at an Oxbridge college, I inevitably did.

It's so complicated, isn't it. I suspect it's because natives themselves aren't really aure on markers anymore?

I've never tried okra, the description of it being 'slimy' hasn't sold it to me yet!

@Macncheeseballs

Have artichokes been mentioned?

Not yet - but I had Asparagus recently - they taste nicer than they look. I also thought this was a wanky fad, but they were delicious. I was annoyed with myself for making a point of not buying them for So long only to find that they are so nice I am telling friends and family to try them. They roll their eyes . So as a PP said - eat what you like - Or can afford I guess.

@StrychnineInTheSandwiches

I've never tried okra, the description of it being 'slimy' hasn't sold it to me yet!

😂😂 yes it took me a while !

Amazed you're not from the uk yet use the awful slang 'gobsmacked'.

Growing up in Sydney, lemons weren't something you bought, rather something you picked from the garden. Or, if your own tree was out, popped next door to see if you could borrow one.

@Bortles

Amazed you're not from the uk yet use the awful slang 'gobsmacked'.

Quick slang learner. You should see my swearword repertoire 😁

@PreparationPreparationPrep

I grew up in Croydon where we had a brilliant market and a delicatessen. My mum could get all sorts of "foreign muck".

Was this the 70/80's - or are people still using this expression?

1960s and 1970s.

I think posters on here who think that garlic and lemons are exotic probably grew up in families who only ate traditional English food and have very conservative tastes.

@BarbaraofSeville I have to travel to Leeds, Sheffield and Rotherham if I want to stock up on Asian spices, sauces and pastes as we have no local provision either. The area I live in is not very ethnically diverse.

I have a huge lemon tree in my garden. Does that make me extra MC?

I suspect it's because natives themselves aren't really aure on markers anymore?

We are, but on a thread like this you can't really immediately gauge where someone is in the hierarchy and so what one person considers 'posh' might be what someone else considers 'normal' and so you get disagreements. And then there's the weird thing where the aristocracy and rural poor share some habits that all the desperately climbing middle classes don't do.

Come to think of it I don't remember seeing many actual lemons in our house growing up , certainly no asparagus, and artichokes were a revelation when I grew up, not necessarily a good one either

We used to have jar of white asparagus at home all the time. Yuck. I tasted fresh one only after coming to uk. Same with lamb

@JaninaDuszejko

I suspect it's because natives themselves aren't really aure on markers anymore?

We are, but on a thread like this you can't really immediately gauge where someone is in the hierarchy and so what one person considers 'posh' might be what someone else considers 'normal' and so you get disagreements. And then there's the weird thing where the aristocracy and rural poor share some habits that all the desperately climbing middle classes don't do.

True. But even in real life ot now seems to be very confusing in many cases. Are people always class they grew up as? Does class actually make you who you are? How much of life is bit of a selffulfilling prophecy "I am x class therefore I can't do A and B"? So many questions

I admit that as my mother wasn't English born and was an excellent cook and interested in all types of food we were exposed to a lot of different foods when young. Nothing like as diverse as now though.

She encouraged my interest in food and cooking and I did the same with DD.

I love visiting DD in her university city as the choice of restaurants and diverse food shops is brilliant. I ate my way around South East Asia when I last visited. I had cooked Korean food at home, but never eaten in a Korean restaurant before.