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JetRocket · 02/10/2021 09:30

Stuff like this really p* me off!

We were recently on a family holiday at a large beach which allows dogs, they all do in that area.

So many dogs jumped at my toddler, scared him to the point of tears and we had to scoop him up. The owners were so slow to get them and rarely apologetic. I did get a bit Cross a few times and shouted ‘I’ve trained my toddler not to jump on your damn dog so either train your dog not to jump on small children or keep them on their lead!!!’ At a woman who muttered about it being a ‘dog beach’
There were very clear very large signs up reminding dog owners that this was a FAMILY beach and only ‘well trained dogs with responsible owners’ we’re to be allowed off lead!

Dutchesss · 02/10/2021 09:30

"Next time I don't stop at the road" sounds horribly aggressive

You're basically saying your dogs are getting run over because my run is more important

But next time it might not be OP. It might be someone who hates dogs or is scared of them and won't stop at the road. Owners need to look after their dogs, not expect a random runner to.

HoppingPavlova · 02/10/2021 09:31

you sound like the sort of person who if one of the dogs had been hit by a car would be on here posting well i was right to carry on wasnt i

What an arse. How about if dogs don’t have 100% crack recall they are kept on lead? The line between responsible dog owners and entitled fuckwits with dogs has been blurred for some time now but has definitely swung the pendulum, and not for the better, in the last few years.

Glitttter · 02/10/2021 09:36

100% on your side OP. we have a puppy who has good recall, and if this had happened with her I'd be apologising profusely and thanking you for stopping. Then she'd be back on the lead and more training until she was allowed off again.

Carrotpuree · 02/10/2021 09:37

I had an earful off one dog owner who let her dog jump on my - clearly terrified DS - she ambled up and said something about telling him to just calm down, I said ‘no, you keep your dog on a lead’, I then walked off with DS and his friends while she shouted ‘it’s a f**king park, I can bring my dog here’ several times. We just kept walking. I later noticed her was on a lead do perhaps her friend said something. If you can control your dog take them to a dog park or put them on a lead. Don’t spoil a public space for small children (and their mothers)

Beautiful3 · 02/10/2021 09:37

I have stopped jogging, walked past then started again. I have a dog too with great recall but still put his lead on whenever I see a cyclist/jogger because rarely he has given chase! However sometimes I don't see them coming from behind, usually the jogger jogs on the spot while I go get him!

Zandathepanda · 02/10/2021 09:38

I know my dog has very good recall and would not do this now or as a puppy as we put lots of training in. However there is an inbetween stage - usually around 9 months to 18 months where they can be absolutely daft (‘teenage years’). You feel all the hard work you’ve put in has been for nothing. Many dogs are rehomed at this stage because people don’t understand it’s a very frustrating phase. The problem is, you feel like you have got over it and sometimes they have a moment. I expect there’s lots this age round at the moment.
Also my dog trainer said one of the best trained dogs she ever knew was killed by a car when chasing a deer. Something ‘switched’ and nothing would have called it back.
Obviously a frustrating situation for everyone.

Zandathepanda · 02/10/2021 09:39

…and dog owners need to be patient and stricter at the this ‘teenage’ stage and less trusting of their dog.

HalzTangz · 02/10/2021 09:40

@OdettySpaghetti

Went for a run this morning. Ran past a couple of women with offlead dogs (cockapoo and a frenchie) which chased me as I passed them. They were not aggressive, more like running alongside me. The owners shouted of them but the dogs ignored them and carried on following me. I kept on running - before long we (me and dogs!) we’re quite a distance from the owners who were miles behind shouting and running (in a fashion) after us. I ran my usual route, off this path and into a wooded cut through, dogs still by my side. I’m getting pissed off at this point as I know I’m coming to a road and will need to stop so the owners can get their dogs. Sure enough I come to the road and stop. The dogs stop too and just start sniffing around but because we’re now close to a road I feel I have to take the dogs back before they dart across it so I head back the way I came, fuming that this has messed my run up. When the owners catch up one says “if you’d just stopped running we could have got them ages ago!” I replied that their dogs are not my responsibility to which they replied “no need to take them close to a main road though is there? Where is your common sense?” So livid now I say “get your fucking dogs under control, next time I don’t stop at the road”.

AIbU to have not wanted to mess my run up?

And another reason cementing my belief that all dogs should be on leads in public areas

fluffedup · 02/10/2021 09:42

I don't think there's anything wrong at all with keeping on running (that's what I used to do, back when I could run) or with getting aggressive and saying you won't stop at the road next time, because the owners deserve that. We all know you would actually stop - it's not the dogs' fault - just the owners who are arseholes.

I was standing by my back gate a few weeks back checking on some shrubs. A dog being walked off lead starting barking at me, so I turned away and ignored it. The owner made no attempt to call it back. It then jumped up at me and muddied my trousers. The owner said it was because I was standing still!

ThanksIGotItInMorrisons · 02/10/2021 09:48

Quite right. And I say that as a dog owner. Sick of those fuckwits know it all precious dog owners who can let their dogs go where they want off lead and not have to be responsible for the outcomes.

chaosrabbitland · 02/10/2021 09:48

@Dutchesss

"Next time I don't stop at the road" sounds horribly aggressive

You're basically saying your dogs are getting run over because my run is more important

But next time it might not be OP. It might be someone who hates dogs or is scared of them and won't stop at the road. Owners need to look after their dogs, not expect a random runner to.

well if op or anyone else had just stopped there and then to let the dog owner get the dogs onto a leash then they wouldnt have been anywhere near the road , regardless of the fact that yes the dogs should have been on a leash the op is an ignorant selfish waste of space lacking in basic common sense who does obviously think her run is more important that anything else . she had to bloody stop in the end anyway thats whats laughable ,

ArtichokeAardvark · 02/10/2021 09:49

@crumble82

You weren’t technically being unreasonable, however the kinder (and easiest) thing to do would have been to stop when it was obvious they were following you. You wouldn’t have had to go back so far then either.

You’re right, dogs should have better recall if they’re going to be off the lead but you we’re so busy proving your point that you ruined your run yourself.

This. No, you weren't being unreasonable in the slightest to continue your run, it's the owners' responsibility to control their dogs. But I would have thought it was just common sense to stop so they could catch up once you realised the dogs were sticking with you.

Fairnair · 02/10/2021 09:52

To be honest I can see your point re owners needing to be able to control their dogs. I personally would have stopped as soon as I knew the dogs were following me, but can totally understand you did not want to mess your run up.

NotAnotherPylon · 02/10/2021 09:52

I would have kept running too. I get dogs following me occasionally when I'm running. I just ignore them and they soon get bored as I don't run very fast!

I have had a couple of dogs jump up on me and, being the the total wimp that I am, just laughed if off, even though I was irritated and a bit nervous. The sort of people who don't keep their dogs under control will not learn a life lesson from someone pulling them up about it anyway. They will continue to be entitled dicks. And if their dog gets hit by a car or disappears into the wide blue yonder, it will always be someone else's fault.

ItsNotMeAnymore · 02/10/2021 09:53

Ohhh I love a Mumsnet dog thread 😅

Yanbu It was 100% the dog owners fault. I’ve had too many random dogs jump up at me and I’ve been knocked off my feet twice in the last year and had loads of dogs jump up at me or my walking friends. . I have a joint condition that means being knocked over might cause me serious problems, I do nothing ‘wrong’ to attract the dogs. They are just doing what dogs do if they are not being controlled properly.
SOME dog owners are nasty entitled selfish idiots. It is NEVER ok to let a dog that can’t be controlled off the lead in public areas. Use a long lease or walk your dog in designated dog walk fields.

I give shirty replies now if people’s dogs jump at me. ‘Oh sorry he’s just playing’ or whatever pathetic excuse I’m given just doesn’t cut it anymore.

BertramLacey · 02/10/2021 09:55

You’re right, dogs should have better ? recall if they’re going to be off the lead but you we’re so busy proving your point that you ruined your run yourself.

This, really. I don't think any of the humans in this scenario are covering themselves in glory. The owners should train their dogs better but any animal won't behave 100% perfectly all the time. And since the dogs were clearly going to follow, why not turn back earlier? Ultimately it would have saved hassle. I used to walk my dogs in the park where some Kenyan Olympic runners trained. Even they weren't that bloody precious about dogs.

Life's generally a bit easier if you don't get quite so wound up about minor irritations.

Cherrysoup · 02/10/2021 09:56

They need a solid recall, that’s ridiculous. My two used to roam ahead of me in the woods and the amount of times other owners couldn’t recall their dogs who followed mine was ridiculous. I used to have to recall mine so they could get theirs. Very annoying. YANBU.

OrlandointheWilderness · 02/10/2021 09:56

They should've had them under control, however when it became apparent they weren't you should've stopped. No you shouldn't HAVE too, but to be so obstinate and take them near a road isn't particularly nice.

zafferana · 02/10/2021 09:57

YANBU at all. As a fellow runner, I'm sick to death of badly behaved dogs and incompetent, entitled owners. Since the start of the pandemic the number of dogs around here has at least doubled and I'd hazard a guess that many of the owners have never owned dogs before and were unable to take them to obedience classes, because the number of dogs running around off lead, approaching strangers, jumping up (I had one jump so high a few weeks ago it got its disgusting slobbery nose on my face!) is appalling. The dog and the owner also got a piece of my mind.

Note to dog owners: if you cannot control your dog and know it jumps up KEEP IT ON A FUCKING LEAD!

MrsLargeEmbodied · 02/10/2021 10:01

you sound mean and unfriendly imo
unnecessary
they were obviously struggling and you could have helped earlier

KingsleyShacklebolt · 02/10/2021 10:06

@MrsLargeEmbodied

you sound mean and unfriendly imo unnecessary they were obviously struggling and you could have helped earlier

Again someone who thinks that the OP has a duty to take responsibility for other people's uncontrolled animals. She does not.

If they are "struggling" then they should not have their animals running free.

Sick of all this "be kind" shit as a get out clause for never ending failures by irresponsible people. We're expected to let people away with all sorts of rubbish, turn a blind eye and "be kind".

vivainsomnia · 02/10/2021 10:07

Here we go again same old same old
It's not about comparing dogs and children, it's comparing people who have responsibilities for the beings on their care who can cause accidents, inconvenience etc...

It's not the dogs that are in questions here but the adults who are responsible for them.

Yet as always, parents are expected to hold sympathy if they occasionally fail in their responsibility towards the public, but God owners! Oh no, not on MN!

Bit go ahead and bring it back again to dogs Vs kids and who matters more on earth

WhereYouLeftIt · 02/10/2021 10:07

" "Next time I don't stop at the road" sounds horribly aggressive

You're basically saying your dogs are getting run over because my run is more important"

No. They considered letting their dogs off the lead (so they didn't have to walk as much as the dogs?) to be more important than their dogs getting run over.

I think what OP said should have made it utterly clear to these irresponsible owners that nobody else owes them and their dogs any duty, so they need to stop behaving as if everyone else should be making up for their deficiencies. Harsh words, but necessary.

Anotherhill · 02/10/2021 10:08

Did the owners see you coming? Did they have a chance to get their dogs on the lead?