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To have carried on running?

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OdettySpaghetti · 02/10/2021 08:06

Went for a run this morning. Ran past a couple of women with offlead dogs (cockapoo and a frenchie) which chased me as I passed them. They were not aggressive, more like running alongside me. The owners shouted of them but the dogs ignored them and carried on following me. I kept on running - before long we (me and dogs!) we’re quite a distance from the owners who were miles behind shouting and running (in a fashion) after us. I ran my usual route, off this path and into a wooded cut through, dogs still by my side. I’m getting pissed off at this point as I know I’m coming to a road and will need to stop so the owners can get their dogs. Sure enough I come to the road and stop. The dogs stop too and just start sniffing around but because we’re now close to a road I feel I have to take the dogs back before they dart across it so I head back the way I came, fuming that this has messed my run up. When the owners catch up one says “if you’d just stopped running we could have got them ages ago!” I replied that their dogs are not my responsibility to which they replied “no need to take them close to a main road though is there? Where is your common sense?” So livid now I say “get your fucking dogs under control, next time I don’t stop at the road”.

AIbU to have not wanted to mess my run up?

OP posts:
Reallyimeanreally2022 · 05/10/2021 12:56

[quote Leibham]@Reallyimeanreally2022

Hold on, did you just compare a runner knowingly running two dogs into the road with a person who eats meat?

You’re deranged[/quote]
So you’re fine with animals being killed so you can tuck in to a bacon sandwich

But a runner just continuing to run, not intentionally running into road, but stopping, waiting for cars to pass and then crossing to continue their intended route, irrespective of being chased by dogs - is inhumane?

vivainsomnia · 05/10/2021 12:59

Not my concern. If you love your dogs you look after them. I'd grab a small child who was about to run into a road but I don't give a ross about someone else's dog if they are too lazy (and inconsiderate) to keep it under control
I think that sums up the attitude of many here. It's nothing to do with people failing to avoid an incident, because that would pay to the parent of the kid crossing the road.

It has nothing to do with doing the right thing.

It comes down to 'I don't give a shit about your dog, I don't give a shit that you love your dog, that they mean a lot to you, that you'd be devastated if they went missing or got killed, and if I don't, it gives me all the right to fail purposely to be do something nice for you'.

This how it works for many, empathy only goes as far as what they care about themselves. Totally self-centrered society.

Reallyimeanreally2022 · 05/10/2021 13:00

But the owner couldn’t have given that much of a shit about the dogs? Otherwise they wouldn’t have taken them off the lead knowing their recall (both no less) wasn’t bullet proof

Stoppochoco · 05/10/2021 13:26

@Reallyimeanreally2022

But the owner couldn’t have given that much of a shit about the dogs? Otherwise they wouldn’t have taken them off the lead knowing their recall (both no less) wasn’t bullet proof
You don't know that though. The owner might have been distracted, or not had chance to get the dog back on the lead before runner approached. There's any number of reasons that exist alongside the owner ' not giving a shit' that have caused the situation. Either way its not the dogs fault and its doesn't deserve to have its life put in danger, so someone can make a point.
Reallyimeanreally2022 · 05/10/2021 13:44

You’re right
It doesn’t deserve to have its life put in danger

I hope the owner has grasped that fact

vivainsomnia · 05/10/2021 13:46

But the owner couldn’t have given that much of a shit about the dogs? Otherwise they wouldn’t have taken them off the lead knowing their recall (both no less) wasn’t bullet proof
Because in all likelihood, this never happened before and they had no reasons to think it would. Do you really think if it had, they would have let it happen again? That they will now?

Have you never ever had a near miss when you had no reason to believe before that the situation was unsafe?

purplesequins · 05/10/2021 13:58

@vivainsomnia

But the owner couldn’t have given that much of a shit about the dogs? Otherwise they wouldn’t have taken them off the lead knowing their recall (both no less) wasn’t bullet proof Because in all likelihood, this never happened before and they had no reasons to think it would. Do you really think if it had, they would have let it happen again? That they will now?

Have you never ever had a near miss when you had no reason to believe before that the situation was unsafe?

or it happened before and the runner stopped and the dog owner didn't learn from the incident(s)
Reallyimeanreally2022 · 05/10/2021 14:01

Yep… much more like it

theemmadilemma · 05/10/2021 14:05

I would do anything for my dogs. Which is exactly why I'd never put them in this position in the first place.

Not your responsibility to stop, I'm glad you did, hopefully it'll never happen again and you won't need to make that choice. But absolutely they shouldn't be off lead without the recall.

branchlight · 05/10/2021 16:02

@vivainsomnia

But the owner couldn’t have given that much of a shit about the dogs? Otherwise they wouldn’t have taken them off the lead knowing their recall (both no less) wasn’t bullet proof Because in all likelihood, this never happened before and they had no reasons to think it would. Do you really think if it had, they would have let it happen again? That they will now?

Have you never ever had a near miss when you had no reason to believe before that the situation was unsafe?

Given the amount of out of control dogs I have encountered, there must be an AWFUL lot of ' this has never happened before' dog owners.

Though their lacklustre and completely ineffective attempts to get their dogs under control again rather suggests that they know their dogs do this and don't really care.

The novel event for these owners might just have been that this time the runner let the dogs follow them, rather than stopping to do the owner's job for them of getting the dogs under control.

Reallyimeanreally2022 · 05/10/2021 16:05

Though their lacklustre and completely ineffective attempts to get their dogs under control again rather suggests that they know their dogs do this and don't really care.

It’s the chuckling affectionately that gets me.
Even when I was bit.

vivainsomnia · 05/10/2021 16:06

or it happened before and the runner stopped and the dog owner didn't learn from the incident(s)
Yes of course. They were running desperately to catch OP and the dogs. They disappear out of sight for what must have very long minutes as OP says it was miles, not having a clue where the dogs were, but yes, I'm sure it happens all the time!

Some people really can't grasp the fact that dog owners do love their dogs dearly and the thought they could be lost is a horrifying.

vivainsomnia · 05/10/2021 16:07

Given the amount of out of control dogs I have encountered, there must be an AWFUL lot of ' this has never happened before' dog owners
I'm sure! I expect your definition of out of control is very different to mine! Probably any dog that dates within 1m of you!

Reallyimeanreally2022 · 05/10/2021 16:10

Some people really can't grasp the fact that dog owners do love their dogs dearly and the thought they could be lost is a horrifying.

We get it op.
But can’t understand why you would take lead off a dog without good recall. And not one. But two. Indicating that perhaps… training hasn’t been a priority for the owner

Reallyimeanreally2022 · 05/10/2021 16:11

@vivainsomnia

Given the amount of out of control dogs I have encountered, there must be an AWFUL lot of ' this has never happened before' dog owners I'm sure! I expect your definition of out of control is very different to mine! Probably any dog that dates within 1m of you!
Precisely!!!

So many dog owners see “out of control” as very different to someone who doesn’t KNOW their dog and it’s temperament!!!

Macncheeseballs · 05/10/2021 16:53

2nd time mum, I'm not sure you understood what I was saying, I meant that if a runner had run into a road , they would have done so when it was relatively safe to so, therefore any cars would be far enough away to stop in time to avoid hitting any dogs?

Macncheeseballs · 05/10/2021 17:00

Leibham, sorry, I don't feel that the product of dogs is off topic at all. Dog shit is a scourge on our streets (and trees and bushes), which only seems to be getting worse as dog ownership increases. Time and time again I see dog owners on here complain about the behaviour of others, be it runners, cyclists, small children etc etc. I am merely pointing out that it may be better for dog owners to get their own house in order before throwing accusations at others. It may only be a minority of dog owners as you say but who really knows? It's every where and its vile. BTW I like dogs.

sunglassesonthetable · 06/10/2021 06:02

2nd time mum, I'm not sure you understood what I was saying, I meant that if a runner had run into a road , they would have done so when it was relatively safe to so, therefore any cars would be far enough away to stop in time to avoid hitting any dogs

Bloody hell it was a ridiculous theory first time you posted it.

Right, the dogs are unpredictable and badly trained, running free,
maybe they would run towards the traffic,
maybe through the traffic.
maybe down the actual road away from traffic
Maybe the dogs following the runner, would suddenly turn back and run back into the road.
Maybe it was a dual carriageway with press button lights to cross
And so on

SO MANY dangerous , NOT JUST TO THE DOGS, scenarios involving the road

@Macncheeseballs I can't believe I'm actually spelling it out.

NO NOT a case of runner = safe on the road therefore dogs = safe on the road.

Stop trying to justify it. It's stupid.

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