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AIBU to assume my friend died?

107 replies

MRex · 30/09/2021 00:36

I used to work with him, he was someone who was close at the time. He had a heart condition and was in his 60s, a couple of big health scares. The last few years I spoke to him a few times; about mutual friends, his daughter's wedding, projects at work. I last saw him at a mutual friend's funeral pre-covid, he was very sad and said he wasn't well. I haven't heard from him in a long time and realised a text last year wasn't answered. I called and his phone is disconnected. He had that phone number at least 12 years that I've known him. He wasn't on social media, but I looked on a work area and nothing from him in two years. One friend asked me how he is; I don't know anyone else who would have known him better than us.
So, he's gone. I don't know his wife nor children, if I could even find them there's nothing much to say. He was just a lovely, gentle and funny man, and I enjoyed working with him. How do people part from acquaintances? Do I just assume he's died and lightly grieve accordingly, or do I pretend he might be out there and ok? Either approach seems fake, but then so does chasing up a man without quality checks.

OP posts:
IjustbelieveinMe · 30/09/2021 11:25

Just got to say this is lovely. I really hope he contacts you back now.

YetAnotherSpartacus · 30/09/2021 11:32

That's lovely, OP! I hope that he gets in touch :).

I had someone contact me because they were concerned about someone I used to work with. This person mentioned me a lot and I'm searchable in a professional capacity and so they found me. I was able to connect with them (carefully) and I am glad I did.

theemmadilemma · 30/09/2021 11:32

Oh good news. I bet he's happy to get back in contact too!

starfish4 · 30/09/2021 11:35

I'm glad you've got some news and it answers your question as to whether he's alive. It's easy to lose contact with close colleagues, but it doesn't stop you being fond of them still.

Shellfishblastard · 30/09/2021 11:36

I don’t think you’ve overstepped them mark. You were a concerned friend - we could all be doing with more of those!

If he doesn’t want to stay in touch with the OP then he doesn’t have to. It’s only a message

MRex · 30/09/2021 11:44

He's replied already! He's fine, health not great but better. He's hoping his daughter and her family will move home soon but they've been there for a long stay. It's very early morning but he and his daughter were up with the baby when my message got through so he logged in straight away (whoops, he was worried I had bad news, could have phrased that better!!). It was news to him that his phone is unobtainable, he has no idea why and had left it at home so he's contacted his customer support online. He'll be back in the country in November, so will arrange to catch up then. An array of cheeky messages have been sent for the old colleagues coming to drinks. I'm away to send him requested photos of DS. Grin

OP posts:
RB68 · 30/09/2021 11:44

Good to hear you found him. The other possibility when seearching for someone who has passed away or think may have is the Gazette. Its normal practice when closing a probate estate to advertise the probate in there to ensure any Cr and Dr are aware etc so a check in there would indicate anything albeit a while down the line as estates cn take time - I posted Dad about 4 months after his death as we dealt with things v quickl;y as he was mid housemove.

WithMyEncyclopedia · 30/09/2021 11:58

Glad to hear!
I'm always surprised by the "out of sight, out of mind" some ppl have. I'm about to meet up with a bunch of ppl I haven't seen in several years, prompted by a chance contact between two of them, the group chat is already hilarious!

Wishimaywishimight · 30/09/2021 12:00

In Ireland we have a website, www.rip.ie, where you can check for deaths. Do you have similar in the UK?

Sweetpeasaremadeforbees · 30/09/2021 12:08

Ah glad you found him and he's still alive! It's horrible when you don't know what's happened to someone.

Anyway, you've given me a boot up the arse to contact an elderly lady I used to work with. Pre-covid we'd get together at the pub maybe once every year or so but we've both let it slide for a couple of years so thank you!

Dixiechickonhols · 30/09/2021 12:12

That’s a lovely outcome.

SunshineCake1 · 30/09/2021 12:15

So lovely!

senua · 30/09/2021 12:38

@LateDecemberBackInLowB12

This would really freak me out.

If you're online and easy to search then if he wanted contact he would initiate it. If he got a new phone he would have messaged you his new number.

I'm glad he's OK, but you've really overstepped imo.

I disagree. It's a stage of life thing; you get to musing about "whatever happened to old so-and-so". If we took LateDec's course of action, nobody would contact anybody - we'd all be waiting for someone else to make the first move! It's lovely that you found him, OP. How often do we hear stories along the lines of "if only ..." when someone has tried to search for a person and found out that they were a week/month too late.
Standrewsschool · 30/09/2021 12:40

Ah, lovely outcome.

WomanStanleyWoman · 30/09/2021 12:41

@LateDecemberBackInLowB12

This would really freak me out.

If you're online and easy to search then if he wanted contact he would initiate it. If he got a new phone he would have messaged you his new number.

I'm glad he's OK, but you've really overstepped imo.

Oh come on. It’s easy to lose touch with more casual friends, or those you no longer see day to day (as is the case when you make friends through work and one of you leaves). It doesn’t mean (at least not necessarily) that you’re actively trying to avoid that person.

I have a friend I didn’t see in nearly ten years; not because we fell out, but because she moved abroad and came home rarely, and I had moved away from our home town, so our paths rarely crossed. It was still nice to find her on Facebook and see she was doing well - and eventually, we met again at a wedding, discovered we would be living only a few miles apart now that she was back in the UK, and became closer friends than we ever were originally.

52andblue · 30/09/2021 12:50

@SunshineCake1

That is great news!

I can't see anyone being miffed you've gone to the trouble of looking for him as you were thinking of them. I still think of an old school friend. Not a common name but I found three. Only one replied, freaked out, I apologised, no idea if my friend so I've stopped looking. However I'd think in your case it would be okay.

I started a similar thread a few weeks back but it didn't go so well. I was accused of being a stalker! (I just wanted to get in touch with an old colleague who'd given me good advice when younger, to say thank you (as I've finally appreciated it!!)

OP, I am glad you've found out your old friend is okay.
Still looking for mine, but think I may have found their new location now. Even if I don't send a card (which was my plan) I'd just like to know the person is okay: they were kind to me & I've always remembered.

bewilderedhedgehog · 30/09/2021 13:03

Really nice to see your news, and I'm sure your friend is really touched

whymewhyme · 30/09/2021 13:09

Well this is lovely, how great 👍

Yoursaintlyglowofconcern · 30/09/2021 13:21

Nothing in particular. I'm meeting a couple of old colleagues for a drink who I haven't seen in a long time, I thought it would be nice to invite him. It's a bit of a journey for him, but he did it a couple of times before. Also I thought it would be nice to say hi whether or not he could make it.

Fair enough. Glad you’ve had a good outcome.

Shellfishblastard · 30/09/2021 14:21

@MRex

He's replied already! He's fine, health not great but better. He's hoping his daughter and her family will move home soon but they've been there for a long stay. It's very early morning but he and his daughter were up with the baby when my message got through so he logged in straight away (whoops, he was worried I had bad news, could have phrased that better!!). It was news to him that his phone is unobtainable, he has no idea why and had left it at home so he's contacted his customer support online. He'll be back in the country in November, so will arrange to catch up then. An array of cheeky messages have been sent for the old colleagues coming to drinks. I'm away to send him requested photos of DS. Grin
Great news. Glad you persevered OP.

I think it’s lovely that you took the time.

Those who thing it’s strange - maybe if we all reached out a little more we could make a small positive difference in other peoples lives. A message could make someone’s day.

FluffyWhiteBird · 30/09/2021 14:41

@AllieTM

Please don’t do what a previous poster said and look his wife up on FB.

My Dad died suddenly and unexpectedly and we had a steady stream of people contacting us all asking what happened - via social media, phone and in person.

I understand they cared about him but satisfying their curiosity was incredibly painful for us and felt very intrusive.

How awful. Some people have no manners. I understand people will want to know but they should have put the family's feelings ahead of their own and expressed condolences, not asked questions. I'm sorry for your loss. Flowers

I had a bereavement last year and ignored all that, if they didn't want to be polite I didn't feel I owed them my time and energy. I was quite angry about it. I've also dropped a few "friends" who didn't contact me to check in during the whole of covid lockdown, except at this time and then not to express concern or comfort, but to ask what happened. Felt like I was only worth knowing if I could feed their desire for gossip.

OP I've found obituaries from googling the person's name before. Or newspaper articles in local paper sometimes. Very sad, but at least you know.

AngelDelightUk · 30/09/2021 18:12

So glad to hear you found him. I love a happy ending Smile

WTF475878237NC · 30/09/2021 21:17

What a lovely outcome OP.

MyPatronusIsAPenguin · 30/09/2021 22:32

[quote MRex]@MyPatronusIsAPenguin - her first name plus maiden name is unfortunately even less searchable than her dad because search results bring thousands of results for a particular person with that name. Not helped by me not knowing what she looks like, nor age, nor approximate location - which is all stuff I know about him.
HOWEVER. Your post reminded me of her specific skill her dad was so proud of, which has helped me to find her online, and oddly I recognise her photo. And from that I've found her new surname and husband, and then seen that they have actually moved overseas. I'm going to search her social media now to see if she's mentioned her dad.[/quote]
I am not quite sure what it was in my post that triggered you to remember this but I am glad it did and you had a lovely outcome!

I have decided the daughter is either Hermione Granger or a penguin keeper

MyPatronusIsAPenguin · 30/09/2021 22:33

Forgot the Grin