To disagree with NHS only petrol stations?

[pistachio20]

Some petrol stations around me have now said that they are only allowing in NHS staff to refuel - apparently checking ID.

I find this completely ridiculous and unfair - not only because the majority of NHS staff where I live can easily get public transport to work (most who I know don’t drive to work anyway, and get train/bus anyway due to lack of free parking!).

So many crucial jobs require people to drive, let alone people with caring responsibilities, mobility issues, etc.

AIBU to think that it’s unfair?

Emergency vehicles should get priority and I think petrol stations should set a limit on how much people buy for a while, but refusing fuel to anyone who isn't NHS is bloody ridiculous. I'm sick of the phrase 'key worker' and people being put on a pedestal. Everyone's job is important, not only for the economy but also for things like, you know, feeding their family and keeping a roof over their heads.

Ambulance and emergency vehicles fine.

But general NHS staff? That's not fair. Why are NHS more important than the disabled or carers or teachers or shop workers?

@hangrylady

Emergency vehicles should get priority and I think petrol stations should set a limit on how much people buy for a while, but refusing fuel to anyone who isn't NHS is bloody ridiculous. I'm sick of the phrase 'key worker' and people being put on a pedestal. Everyone's job is important, not only for the economy but also for things like, you know, feeding their family and keeping a roof over their heads.

I know a woman who worked in a health food shop and revelled in her "key worker" status during the lockdowns. Absolute cringe

@pistachio20

Some petrol stations around me have now said that they are only allowing in NHS staff to refuel - apparently checking ID.

I find this completely ridiculous and unfair - not only because the majority of NHS staff where I live can easily get public transport to work (most who I know don’t drive to work anyway, and get train/bus anyway due to lack of free parking!).

So many crucial jobs require people to drive, let alone people with caring responsibilities, mobility issues, etc.

AIBU to think that it’s unfair?

Blame conservatives, they started that idea

Having worked in hospitals, they do tend to have buses but not all night. But there are so many others with critical jobs too and there are NHS workers who aren't critical at all, for example I once had a job organising courses for staff. We have not bought any petrol because whilst it's annoying to run out, we don't need it.

@Itsnotover

YABU

I think it's fair. If other people could take what they need instead of filling up endless Jerry cans, thus wouldn't need to happen. But people are vultures & always will be.

This is what the petrol stations need to put a stop too. No filling of cannisters

[quote Motorina]@SecretSpAD absolutely yes. Without my admin team, my service would collapse, and noone would be treated. Absolutely indispensible.[/quote]
And mine. They are the hardest working and most dedicated people I've ever met and I'm sick of the abuse that they get from the public - and frontline staff.

[quote WandaVision2]@MatildaIThink It is life and death if our power stations can’t operate because of a lack of staff, many of them can’t legally operate without a certain number of staff members being there Without electricity the NHS won’t be able to save lives.[/quote]
The nurses will be going back to “The lady with the lamp” days, the surgeons will be operating by candle light…
I can’t actually think of a job that doesn’t require electricity at some point.
I think some people believe it makes itself by magic. I wonder how they’re posting on here?

Of course everyone’s job is important no one is suggesting that isn’t the case

But comparing who needs to be in work a secretary to an MD at an insurance company or staff on a mh ward (that is running at capacity and did so regardless of the pandemic)

So it’s a bit more than just emergency nhs staff that need to be in as well as other areas of work. And from my understanding it’s care staff too that are being allowed to buy petrol (at some stations)

I never ever wear my badge out but can imagine the embarrassment.

@letsmakethishappen

Where abouts can I find these I need my car filling ASAP I have patients’ lives to save?

Your job is no more important than anyone elses.

What about the supermarket worker who you buy food from to refuel. Without that food you'd be in no fit state to work.

If we wat to start claiming importance, then food suppliers are far more important than nhs

Large animal vets here. Our local service station is giving us priority fuelling. We are very rural though so do need it, especially to get to emergency ceasers etc on remote farms.

Well, how would you feel if one of your loved ones was dying and the district nurses couldn’t get them ? Our services are already at breaking point without this. Hospital nurses work twelve hour shifts, do you really expect them to catch a bus home at 10 or 11 at night ? Some of the people on here don’t have a clue.

@HalzTangz

Well that does depend. When required, people usually cannot go without urgent medical treatment for long. Having a heart attack and being required to wait a few days usually means death. However most people could go more than a week without food and have no serious side effects, plus most people have several weeks food at home, even if it would mean eating some very odd meals.

The point with medical staff is that it is a very easy win, they are identifiable, they have ID, many of them provide a service which means that people will either die, or suffer considerably without. Whilst food supplies will probably end up disrupted, it is unlikely that we will be unable to get food, but more likely that choice will be restricted.

Whilst I agree the whole thing is a mess because there are so many panic buyers being selfish arseholes, the issue on here seems to be more that some people want to have a tantrum because some people are getting preferential treatment, which they want for themselves.

Wards have to have so many staff to patients. Some business (including supermarkets) can work with fewer staff it’s just inconvenient for customers

Some wards the staffing is very high

There would soon be a high amount of complaints (not least harm to patients) if patients were not receiving their medication, couldn’t be monitored and so on (referring to mh) but this applies across all health care

@Runmybathforme

Well, how would you feel if one of your loved ones was dying and the district nurses couldn’t get them ? Our services are already at breaking point without this. Hospital nurses work twelve hour shifts, do you really expect them to catch a bus home at 10 or 11 at night ? Some of the people on here don’t have a clue.

The thing is without non-NHS community carers other people will die. They need medication, food, dressings changed, help getting up after a fall or attention after a stroke etc.

How would you feel if you and your kids were trapped in a burning building but the fire service was at limited capacity because staff couldn't get into work and they couldn't get to you?

Or if you were in an RTA and the police couldn't get to you for the same reason?

If the supermarkets had to close due to lack of staff and lack of supply.

Or schools.

If you had no electricity because the power station workers couldn't get in.

If you've run out of insulin, asthma medication, epi pen, epilepsy meds because pharmaceutical workers (who don't work for the NHS) can't get in.

We need to prioritise all key workers not just NHS.

And I didn't even mention care homes, I'm sorry for that.

Yanbu. Lots of people need petrol to work and have important jobs, maybe a more general key worker only petrol? Hopefully the panic buying will calm soon and it'll be a non issue!

@Runmybathforme

Well, how would you feel if one of your loved ones was dying and the district nurses couldn’t get them ? Our services are already at breaking point without this. Hospital nurses work twelve hour shifts, do you really expect them to catch a bus home at 10 or 11 at night ? Some of the people on here don’t have a clue.

If petrol stations set a limit on how much fuel you could buy then it would surely enable everyone to get fuel. My DF has to drive 3 times a week to hospital for life saving dialysis, he's retired and obviously not a key worker so if fuel is only sold to NHS workers then he can't get to hospital. It's not up to petrol stations to decide who is more in need, they just need to make it fair for everyone.

A hospital isn't a weird self fuelled machine and it's 'Staff' aren't living or working in a bubble either.

Posters who are still posting things like ''Well, how would you feel if one of your loved ones head was falling off and no nurses were in the hospital. THEY must get the fuel !'' ect ect .....

just ... PLEASE think.
Hospitals need staff but there's not point in nurses working in a hospital without: (just off the top of my head)
Elec.
Food.
Water.
Equipment.
Supplies.
Bins emptied.
Cleaners.
Child care placement for all of the people who do all the jobs above AND the actual hospital staff.

None of these qualify for an NHS pass.

Our society is like a clock made up of a LOT of cogs. Prioritising just one cog means the clock stops.

@Galacticat

Large animal vets here. Our local service station is giving us priority fuelling. We are very rural though so do need it, especially to get to emergency ceasers etc on remote farms.

I'd like to add small animal vets and veterinary nurses too! Especially the ones who work OOH and need to be able to drive to the clinic to treat emergency cases!

I also agree with a previous poster - to make things fair across the board, EVERYONE should be able to access fuel, but with a maximum spend of £30. That way, the supplies are preserved, and no one takes the piss!

Everyone is a key worker in my area, I think we are all getting rather tired of the Facebook rants.

In fact someone posted in my local FB group that they were prevented from ‘saving lives’. A bit of stalking revealed that she was not a cardiac surgeon but a cleaner in the nursing home. It’s all a bit much now.

Emergency service vehicles and those used to give care need to be fuelled as a priority. The NHS tag is lazy virtue signalling.

I work for the nhs and am frankly embarrassed about these posts on social media.

Honestly sick of this