Trans by Helen Joyce 99p on Kindle. AIBU...

[HereticFanjo]

... To suggest you read it if you still think Mumsnet is full of meanie transphobes? If you hide any thread that mentions gender identity? If you're politically homeless because politicians like Keir Starmer are too busy arguing about 'cervix havers' to actually lead the opposition against this shitshow government?

This is not the time for ostriching or #BeKind. It's the time to wake up to the harm gender identity politics is doing to our society, democracy and free speech and to so many vulnerable individuals. Especially children with autism and dysphoria and vulnerable women and children who are being browbeaten into allowing men to access their previously semi-safe spaces.

Stop relegating this stuff to FWR. The opposition parties are devouring themselves over this and losing women voters by the thousand. Meanwhile the Tories are merrily destroying our public services.

I bought it today too and passed on the message to friends. I also contacted my County Council and asked them to stock it in the libraries a few weeks ago.

Thanks OP. Looking forward to reading this.

A last sneaky bump.

Have ordered the book on kindle.

the opposition parties are taking them by refusing to accept the reality that women have a need for the Equality Act in all sorts of ways.

Are you saying some trans activists are wanting to get rid of the same-sex exemptions in the Equality Act? Thanks.

@Zotter

Have ordered the book on kindle.

the opposition parties are taking them by refusing to accept the reality that women have a need for the Equality Act in all sorts of ways.

Are you saying some trans activists are wanting to get rid of the same-sex exemptions in the Equality Act? Thanks.

Yes @Zotter they want people to be able to access spaces on the basis of gender not biological sex and they want people to be able to self identify as their chosen gender. The issue with this is that we now have convicted sex offenders who are biologically male (including the creature who murdered Holly and Jessica) self identifying as women and being moved into women's prisons. This is the logical extreme of this kind of activism. Everything women have warned against and were told it would never happen - it's happening. Have a look at the Feminism boards for more information- and buy Helen Joyce's book for 99p in the next 32 minutes.

Sorry just saw you bought it already - yay! Enjoy the read although enjoy is the wrong word really. Prepare to be appalled.

YANBU!

Hopefully Keir Starmer and The Lancet will have peaked a lot of people this weekend.

@Zotter

womansplaceuk.org/references-to-removal-of-single-sex-exemptions/

Stonewall calls for the end to single sex spaces -

• 'A review of the Equality Act 2010 to include ‘gender identity’ rather than ‘gender reassignment’ as a protected characteristic and to remove exemptions, such as access to single-sex spaces'

www.stonewall.org.uk/cy/node/9461

And just in case people haven't seen it before, this thread is really invaluable - www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3145470-Break-it-down-for-me

Just downloaded my copy, thanks.

@sunshinesupermum

Perhaps someone should send a copy to Keir Starmer?

Along with a biology textbook

@HereticFanjo - well done for your posts tonight, I've just got in and seen this thread - you have done marvellously in bumping and explaining - bravo! I've just bought a copy. I'd been meaning to read it but 99p? Fabulous.

Keir Starmer (along with almost every MP, MSP and Member of the Welsh Assembly) has been sent a copy - sex-matters.org/take-action/sponsor-a-gift-copy-of-helen-joyces-book-trans/getting-it-read/

Two minutes to go!

It is worth it full price by the way - I promise - but we all love a bargain!

Thank you to everyone who has downloaded it or recommended it.

Apologies - Welsh Senedd

YANBU. Feels like something’s shifted this weekend. Had several WhatsApp messages from normally apolitical friends who are suddenly enraged by what they’re seeing in the media.

Been eyeing up the Helen Joyce book for a while but have finally ordered it this evening.

I see it's gone back up to £8.99 now. Sterling job OP!

Manage to get it for 99p. Been wanting to read it for ages. Thanks OP. 👍

YABU 😡😢😨😡☹️😔

Aw just seen this but it’s back up to £8.99. I’ve added it to my wish list and will keep an eye if price goes down again

@Nichebitch

Not going to respond to this. Just came to say, if you don’t want people to patronise you, don’t patronise people. Meaning “if people just read this… or if people just understood that”. Well, some of us have read, understood, and still have a very different opinion to yours. We don’t need to be educated, and we would very much like this debate to stay on the board that was made for the rest of us to carry on enjoying mumsnet without having to read about this crap any more.

But you did respond! If you don’t like the topic, then don’t open the thread.

Am sure there are other subjects you don’t agree with that pop up on here - do you demand that they all bugger off somewhere else?

And am gutted I didn’t clock this thread earlier, as have obviously missed the deal. But will keep an eye out for the future.

Thanks OP for starting the thread.

Request it at your library @Furries

I just downloaded Borrow Box - it’s a good place to start!

@Bizawit

YABU 😡😢😨😡☹️😔

But interestingly, no argument about the rights of women. Just emojis.

@Bizawit

YABU 😡😢😨😡☹️😔

Why are you worried / sad / very angry that people will read it? Seems a strange response to a request to read a book, when a no thanks would suffice.