Prince Harry - something bugging me...

[StinkingCold]

Sorry, another Harry thread

Anyway, couple of things have been really bugging me recently...

1. He is getting paid 6 figures to be some advisor of a mental health charity

1. He has had 4 years therapy and is encouraging everyone else to get help like him

Now...here's my gripes!!...

1. What qualifications does he have to earn this salary as a mental health advisor?????? I've worked in mental health over 20 years, have an undergrad, MSc and Doctorate in a mh field, and have lectured on aspects of MH in my field. Despite my qualifications and experience, I would not consider myself qualified for a 6-figure salaried advisory post on mental health. So with zero qualifications or experience, how the hec does Harry think he is qualified to earn a six figure salary advising on the topic????? It just feels so naive and arrogant.

1. Good for you Harry, having 4 years therapy. Now in the real world, there is not 1 single NHS trust in the entire country likely to offer 4 years of therapy, or even 2, or even 1. Very difficult to even access 6 months or 3 months. Even for people who really really need it. I'm talking high risk, or whose functioning is severely impacted by their mental.health. The reality when you "seek help" for you mental health is a massive wait list followed by 6 sessions of guided self help over the phone. If you are really 'lucky' you might also be allowed to attend a short group programme of 6 sessions, maybe 12, probably on zoom. If you miss a couple.of appointments because you didn't get the letter, or phone was broken, or you were simply too unwell to get to your appointments, you'll probably lose the offer of the group or guided self help. If you have endured long and complex, multiple trauma, are self harming frequently, and drinking alot and overdosing - you might get offered 12 or 24 sessions of (probably group, maybe online only) DBT - but only if you really beg and show you are very very keen and won't miss any sessions. For most people, there is simply nothing. Maybe a referral to a charity for 4 sessions of counselling.

What planet are you on Harry. I wish wish wish you would realise how privileged you are to indulge yourself in 4 years of therapy, and that you could recognise your privilege. Wouldn't it be great if you could use you power and privilege to actually change the mental health system (in the UK) and advocate for more availability of therapeutic services, and maybe even donate large sums of cash to making therapy more available and accessible to the masses. I don't want to hear anymore about how therapy changed you, opened your eyes etc... Most of us simply.cant afford to go private, and the NHS is at breaking point and can't offer what is needed

For some conditions getting a psychiatrist referral is a nighfmsre. For others GP’s throw out quick diagnoses which are often inaccurate. Or not managed properly.

Apart from the fact that Harry works for a private company ( not a charity) - acknowledging that he’s going after the feel good, low hanging fruit isn’t hating him.

@Confusedandshaken

As a psychotherapist who spent a long time working in the charity sector (and has also had years in therapy) I can only dream of the sort of donations having Prince Harry on board will generate. Whatever he is being paid will be dwarfed by what his profile will bring in. They won't be scrabbling around for cash to pay for stamps and printer toner!

Also, it's all very well people saying therapy should have taught him compassion etc. That would be an ideal but you are talking about a man raised in the public eye, who lost his mother young in a very public scandal/tragedy. His dad then married the long term mistress he cheated on his mum with and bought her into the family home. He was sent to boarding school young and he was a front line soldier. His extended family is deeply dysfunctional. Any one of these things will negatively impact on a persons psyche, let alone all of them. He is probably deeply damaged. Well done to him for trying to break the cycle.
His therapy will probably have focussed on understanding his own needs and putting himself and his new family first rather than seeking to understand and forgive his family of origin. That's the most important requirement for effective change - understanding that you can't change the past or other people but can only change yourself and the future. Hopefully understanding and compassion for the people who (unintentionally I'm sure) inflicted such damage on him will come later.

I agree with this Being unintelligent is hardly his fault nor is his upbringing and wealth. Just because MH services aren’t delivering doesn’t mean he is all the nasty things being said on this thread because he is promoting the idea of seeking help.

I think it's immoral of him to accept such a huge payment from the charity concerned. He doesn't need the money and the charity does.

I find his behaviour in this respect to be blood sucking.

He isn't taking money from a charity, he has a paid role in a business.

@ allthelastgoldeneagle I am being ironic. Because literally none of the Royal family are really qualified to speak on anything and our government are a bunch of pals from Oxford. It's to highlight the curiosity over why Harry draws the ire. I suspect I might know why, it's hardly a secret but it's interesting to read how it plays out. You know that whole 'I don't like her, there's just something about her' rhetoric. Harry and Meghan haven't done anything particularly different or 'off grid'. But for whatever reason they have garnered immense hatred for doing so.

@PlusCaNameChange

He isn't taking money from a charity, he has a paid role in a business.

Never let the facts get in the way of a good character assassination.

I don’t doubt his intentions are good and he really wants to help promote mental health. However he just doesn’t understand what pressures services are under, and what a luxury it is for someone like him to be able to afford the best help money can buy.
Meghan seems to have exacerbated the problems that he already had. Telling him that she was planning to kill herslef just before a public event in my mind is extremely manipulative and grossly lacking in sensitivity for his already fragile mental state. Of course she could have seen anyone she wanted to privately , arranged by herself. There was no need to go to the Palace for permission. After all if Harry could organise it for himself, he could surely help her organise therapy? Since they met he has alienated his whole family and she only speaks to one member of hers. There is nothing functional or healthy about that.

I know it's a thread about H and not M, but I did find the outfit M wore to the school an odd choice. Almost like a shield from the people she would encounter there.
I doubt her outfit was a shield against WC DC. 🤣
I don't see anything snobby about Meghan she is a tough cookie, who I'm sure has encountered financial hardship in her childhood.
I know she is a princess now but still holds the same values for helping those in need.

@Snog

I think it's immoral of him to accept such a huge payment from the charity concerned. He doesn't need the money and the charity does.

I find his behaviour in this respect to be blood sucking.

Do you elusive everything you read without any critical thinking? Have you RTFT?

*believe

I don't understand why people can not understand that Prince Harry need some therapy.

From the age he could understand he has had to put up with rumours that he's not Prince Charles son, then his parents giving 'tell all interviews' about their lives.

And then his mother dying and people in this country and the world being too selfish to allow a 12 year old to grieve in private and had to be on show for the world. Not to mention what he saw in the army.

And even now it doesn't matter what he does people only want to spin it that he doing something selfish.

Wearing a winter coat on a hot day was an odd choice.

@HHSchultz

I know it's a thread about H and not M, but I did find the outfit M wore to the school an odd choice. Almost like a shield from the people she would encounter there.

Oversized shirts as jackets is the current fashion. You sound like a peach.

@Clutterbugsmum

I don't understand why people can not understand that Prince Harry need some therapy.

From the age he could understand he has had to put up with rumours that he's not Prince Charles son, then his parents giving 'tell all interviews' about their lives.

And then his mother dying and people in this country and the world being too selfish to allow a 12 year old to grieve in private and had to be on show for the world. Not to mention what he saw in the army.

And even now it doesn't matter what he does people only want to spin it that he doing something selfish.

If he’d married a Kate he’d be getting plenty of sympathy.

In answer to Q1, he gets a 6 figure salary purely for being Prince Harry, it's a great advertisement for whoever he signed a contract with (presumably a private company with high end rich people that pay to use it), I doubt Harry will do anything other than photo shoots and media slots.
Q2 you are right, the NHS is underfunded, Harry would be better to fundraise to open low cost/free therapy sessions

@wellards

I know it's a thread about H and not M, but I did find the outfit M wore to the school an odd choice. Almost like a shield from the people she would encounter there.

Didn't she wear a trouser suit?

Yes she wore a 5k trouser suit with stilettos. It looked stiff and out of place.

M4j4, How do you mean, I sound like a peach?

@EmeraldShamrock

I know it's a thread about H and not M, but I did find the outfit M wore to the school an odd choice. Almost like a shield from the people she would encounter there. I doubt her outfit was a shield against WC DC. 🤣 I don't see anything snobby about Meghan she is a tough cookie, who I'm sure has encountered financial hardship in her childhood. I know she is a princess now but still holds the same values for helping those in need.

I didn't say she was snobby or that she wanted shielding from WC? Working class? Children.

Which charity is it?

If he’d married a Kate he’d be getting plenty of sympathy.

Precisely. If he'd married a Kate2.0 and still pursued charitable mental health work and indeed even stepped back from the RF he'd be getting showered with praise. His choice of Meghan has really irked a lot of people.

The problem as I see it is that H and M are simultaneously trying to make money for themselves and raise money/awareness for charity. It is confusing. I found it weird seeing them on a quasi royal visit to NY. Who were they representing?

@Theythinkitsalloveritisnow

I think people are being unfair to Harry, it must be difficult to be cut off financially by your dad before you're even 40

But seriously, totally agree OP, I know he's being paid for the PR and not for having any knowledge, but yes, it is grating.

Really unfair, poor Harry. Most adults fend for themselves the minute they leave the parental home.

Harry isn't a pauper and wasn't when he left, and will never be.

@StartupRepair

The problem as I see it is that H and M are simultaneously trying to make money for themselves and raise money/awareness for charity. It is confusing. I found it weird seeing them on a quasi royal visit to NY. Who were they representing?

That's what I thought. Convoys of cars and protection everywhere. They are just ordinary people in the US.

@VladmirsPoutine

If he’d married a Kate he’d be getting plenty of sympathy.

Precisely. If he'd married a Kate2.0 and still pursued charitable mental health work and indeed even stepped back from the RF he'd be getting showered with praise. His choice of Meghan has really irked a lot of people.

Exactly.

@VladmirsPoutine

@ allthelastgoldeneagle I am being ironic. Because literally none of the Royal family are really qualified to speak on anything and our government are a bunch of pals from Oxford. It's to highlight the curiosity over why Harry draws the ire. I suspect I might know why, it's hardly a secret but it's interesting to read how it plays out. You know that whole 'I don't like her, there's just something about her' rhetoric. Harry and Meghan haven't done anything particularly different or 'off grid'. But for whatever reason they have garnered immense hatred for doing so.

to be fair if you look at any thread regarding the goverment you will find plenty of ire being drawn out , iv seen boris johnson called a cunt and all sorts , same of threads about the royal family plenty of people saying they are all useless freeloaders , its not just harry and meghan singled out to be poor victims that get hate or nasty comments about them they have left the royal family , gone to live in another country and then proceeded to make money off that family they left whilst attacking and slandering them , i do think thats just a little bit different and off grid to what members of the royal family usually do