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Prince Harry - something bugging me...

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StinkingCold · 24/09/2021 22:30

Sorry, another Harry thread

Anyway, couple of things have been really bugging me recently...

  1. He is getting paid 6 figures to be some advisor of a mental health charity
  1. He has had 4 years therapy and is encouraging everyone else to get help like him

Now...here's my gripes!!...

  1. What qualifications does he have to earn this salary as a mental health advisor?????? I've worked in mental health over 20 years, have an undergrad, MSc and Doctorate in a mh field, and have lectured on aspects of MH in my field. Despite my qualifications and experience, I would not consider myself qualified for a 6-figure salaried advisory post on mental health. So with zero qualifications or experience, how the hec does Harry think he is qualified to earn a six figure salary advising on the topic????? It just feels so naive and arrogant.
  1. Good for you Harry, having 4 years therapy. Now in the real world, there is not 1 single NHS trust in the entire country likely to offer 4 years of therapy, or even 2, or even 1. Very difficult to even access 6 months or 3 months. Even for people who really really need it. I'm talking high risk, or whose functioning is severely impacted by their mental.health. The reality when you "seek help" for you mental health is a massive wait list followed by 6 sessions of guided self help over the phone. If you are really 'lucky' you might also be allowed to attend a short group programme of 6 sessions, maybe 12, probably on zoom. If you miss a couple.of appointments because you didn't get the letter, or phone was broken, or you were simply too unwell to get to your appointments, you'll probably lose the offer of the group or guided self help. If you have endured long and complex, multiple trauma, are self harming frequently, and drinking alot and overdosing - you might get offered 12 or 24 sessions of (probably group, maybe online only) DBT - but only if you really beg and show you are very very keen and won't miss any sessions. For most people, there is simply nothing. Maybe a referral to a charity for 4 sessions of counselling.

What planet are you on Harry. I wish wish wish you would realise how privileged you are to indulge yourself in 4 years of therapy, and that you could recognise your privilege. Wouldn't it be great if you could use you power and privilege to actually change the mental health system (in the UK) and advocate for more availability of therapeutic services, and maybe even donate large sums of cash to making therapy more available and accessible to the masses. I don't want to hear anymore about how therapy changed you, opened your eyes etc... Most of us simply.cant afford to go private, and the NHS is at breaking point and can't offer what is needed

OP posts:
Dolphinnoises · 25/09/2021 07:56

I find it odd, given you work in mental health, that you would refer to four years of therapy as “indulging yourself”. It’s not that long for someone who had a childhood trauma.

wellards · 25/09/2021 08:02

@RandomWordGenerator I meant the concept of it. Do you just have a problem with the fact he gets paid?

wellards · 25/09/2021 08:06

Harry with zero qualifications or credibility wouldn’t even warrant a junior role and Megan is pretending / acting as a humanitarian and an author! What about all the normal folk that have studied hard and worked for years and years expanding their experiences and skill set honing their craft. These two are a joke.

Again lots of celebs write books or get gigs based on who they are as opposed to qualifications & experiences. Why is it different?

Gilmorehill · 25/09/2021 08:07

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wellards · 25/09/2021 08:07

He's paid for PR which is working judging by this thread!

wellards · 25/09/2021 08:09

@Gilmorehill so should Meghan have worn cheap clothes & no jewellery? All so we can pretend she's not rich? I mean she is so...

Is there an upper limit of what Royals or celebs should wear when meeting "poorer" people? What should it be?

wellards · 25/09/2021 08:14

Kate Middletons ring is meant to be worth nearly 1/2 million. Should she remove it for every engagement with the common folk cause it's out of touch?

KaptainKaveman · 25/09/2021 08:14

@StinkingCold

Sorry, another Harry thread

Anyway, couple of things have been really bugging me recently...

  1. He is getting paid 6 figures to be some advisor of a mental health charity
  1. He has had 4 years therapy and is encouraging everyone else to get help like him

Now...here's my gripes!!...

  1. What qualifications does he have to earn this salary as a mental health advisor?????? I've worked in mental health over 20 years, have an undergrad, MSc and Doctorate in a mh field, and have lectured on aspects of MH in my field. Despite my qualifications and experience, I would not consider myself qualified for a 6-figure salaried advisory post on mental health. So with zero qualifications or experience, how the hec does Harry think he is qualified to earn a six figure salary advising on the topic????? It just feels so naive and arrogant.
  1. Good for you Harry, having 4 years therapy. Now in the real world, there is not 1 single NHS trust in the entire country likely to offer 4 years of therapy, or even 2, or even 1. Very difficult to even access 6 months or 3 months. Even for people who really really need it. I'm talking high risk, or whose functioning is severely impacted by their mental.health. The reality when you "seek help" for you mental health is a massive wait list followed by 6 sessions of guided self help over the phone. If you are really 'lucky' you might also be allowed to attend a short group programme of 6 sessions, maybe 12, probably on zoom. If you miss a couple.of appointments because you didn't get the letter, or phone was broken, or you were simply too unwell to get to your appointments, you'll probably lose the offer of the group or guided self help. If you have endured long and complex, multiple trauma, are self harming frequently, and drinking alot and overdosing - you might get offered 12 or 24 sessions of (probably group, maybe online only) DBT - but only if you really beg and show you are very very keen and won't miss any sessions. For most people, there is simply nothing. Maybe a referral to a charity for 4 sessions of counselling.

What planet are you on Harry. I wish wish wish you would realise how privileged you are to indulge yourself in 4 years of therapy, and that you could recognise your privilege. Wouldn't it be great if you could use you power and privilege to actually change the mental health system (in the UK) and advocate for more availability of therapeutic services, and maybe even donate large sums of cash to making therapy more available and accessible to the masses. I don't want to hear anymore about how therapy changed you, opened your eyes etc... Most of us simply.cant afford to go private, and the NHS is at breaking point and can't offer what is needed

It's no wonder people in the public eye become depressed and suicidal when there are people making comments about them like this, OP. Talk about sticking the knife in.

He can afford therapy - which you describe as an 'indulgence'. Your comments are bitter and spiteful. Why don't you just leave him alone?

Gilmorehill · 25/09/2021 08:17

H and M can do no wrong in some people’s eyes but in my view, it’s just crass to walk in to an event in an elementary school dripping in expensive jewellery. Dress for the occasion.

wellards · 25/09/2021 08:17

Wouldn't it be great if you could use you power and privilege to actually change the mental health system (in the UK) and advocate for more availability of therapeutic services, and maybe even donate large sums of cash to making therapy more available and accessible to the masses.

Why should only Harry be responsible for funding this? Why not other royals, rich people or celebs?

VladmirsPoutine · 25/09/2021 08:19

@wellards

Harry with zero qualifications or credibility wouldn’t even warrant a junior role and Megan is pretending / acting as a humanitarian and an author! What about all the normal folk that have studied hard and worked for years and years expanding their experiences and skill set honing their craft. These two are a joke.

Again lots of celebs write books or get gigs based on who they are as opposed to qualifications & experiences. Why is it different?

The idea is Harry basically shouldn't have married Meghan because apparently she is the reason why everything has now worked out the way it has. If you saw the Meghan threads from when they were engaged you would realise that Meghan can't even breathe for doing wrong. She is hated on MN. I have my reasons for why I suspect that to be the case but been there done that.
wellards · 25/09/2021 08:21

H and M can do no wrong in some people’s eyes but in my view, it’s just crass to walk in to an event in an elementary school dripping in expensive jewellery. Dress for the occasion.

Of course they can do wrong & I have no idea what they are like. I just find the criticisms levied at them ridiculous because they behave no different to other celebs.

PlonkyWillyWonky · 25/09/2021 08:21

@KaptainKaveman yes, it's rather an odd thread from someone who's 'qualified' isn't it

icedcoffees · 25/09/2021 08:22

@Washeduponthebeach

It’s all very well for him to advocate therapy to people. The trouble is, his own therapy has obviously been utterly crap. He has destroyed his relationship with his whole family. That doesn’t seem like the action of a man who has had good counselling. He’s a total hypocrite, along with his awful wife.
Lots of families are extremely toxic and the best thing you can do for your MH is to move as far away from then as possible.

Therapy isn't about having a good relationship with the people who fucked you up.

Skyla2005 · 25/09/2021 08:25

They are both spoilt little idiots I can't bear them. They have no clue about the real world yet they claim to want to change it. They need to shut up and go away

Plumtree391 · 25/09/2021 08:25

We don't know what any rich people donate and to whom; most of them do support charities financially without shouting about it.

Even more important is being a voice for a cause.

As for having expensive clothes, who cares? I think the media have a damn cheek putting a price on what people wear, it's nobody's business.

Rhubarbsoup · 25/09/2021 08:27

I don't think badly of Harry in particular, but celebrity and influencer culture on the whole is pretty gross. I don't blame anyone for signing up to minimal work of value for 6 figures, I would if I could though!

MsHedgehog · 25/09/2021 08:27

@Gilmorehill

H and M can do no wrong in some people’s eyes but in my view, it’s just crass to walk in to an event in an elementary school dripping in expensive jewellery. Dress for the occasion.
@Gilmorehill Oh I didn’t realise Kate took off all her jewellery and wore clothes from Primark when she attended her community visits…
wellards · 25/09/2021 08:28

@VladmirsPoutine It's mental. Even if they are what people say they are eg spoilt, entitled etc who fucking cares it hardly makes them an exception compared to other royals/celebs.

Washeduponthebeach · 25/09/2021 08:28

@wellards

Kate Middletons ring is meant to be worth nearly 1/2 million. Should she remove it for every engagement with the common folk cause it's out of touch?
She inherited it. She’s not buying it whilst complaining her fa the in law isn’t giving them more money. Harry is the mouthpiece but she’s doing a fair amount of spending. She doesn’t even have a job.
EmeraldShamrock · 25/09/2021 08:29

He has experience with fronting charities and has had MH issues himself.
Poor MH isn't exclusive to normal people.
He could reduce his wage or give extra to charity to balance it out.
Harry struggled through his rebellious nature, he is a more genuine person than lots of celebrities who get involved with fronting MH considering the change he made leaving the RF.

wellards · 25/09/2021 08:30

They need to shut up and go away

Why are you so bothered what strangers do & why should they disappear because you say? It's batshit!

whoopsnomore · 25/09/2021 08:30

@wellards

Wouldn't it be great if you could use you power and privilege to actually change the mental health system (in the UK) and advocate for more availability of therapeutic services, and maybe even donate large sums of cash to making therapy more available and accessible to the masses.

Why should only Harry be responsible for funding this? Why not other royals, rich people or celebs?

Or even, our government!
MsHedgehog · 25/09/2021 08:31

The posters repeating Daily Mail headlines without using their brains are absolutely laughable and say it all about the hate M&H get. As another poster put it, they’re all sheep!

Disfordarkchocolate · 25/09/2021 08:32

It's sad to see that with all your experience you don't value the voice of the patient.

Public and patient involvement /service user engagement offers a different perspective on living with mental health conditions. Good for Harry on using his experience in a positive way. I unfortunately know lots of people who have had more than fours years of therapy.

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