Prince Harry - something bugging me...

[StinkingCold]

Sorry, another Harry thread

Anyway, couple of things have been really bugging me recently...

1. He is getting paid 6 figures to be some advisor of a mental health charity

1. He has had 4 years therapy and is encouraging everyone else to get help like him

Now...here's my gripes!!...

1. What qualifications does he have to earn this salary as a mental health advisor?????? I've worked in mental health over 20 years, have an undergrad, MSc and Doctorate in a mh field, and have lectured on aspects of MH in my field. Despite my qualifications and experience, I would not consider myself qualified for a 6-figure salaried advisory post on mental health. So with zero qualifications or experience, how the hec does Harry think he is qualified to earn a six figure salary advising on the topic????? It just feels so naive and arrogant.

1. Good for you Harry, having 4 years therapy. Now in the real world, there is not 1 single NHS trust in the entire country likely to offer 4 years of therapy, or even 2, or even 1. Very difficult to even access 6 months or 3 months. Even for people who really really need it. I'm talking high risk, or whose functioning is severely impacted by their mental.health. The reality when you "seek help" for you mental health is a massive wait list followed by 6 sessions of guided self help over the phone. If you are really 'lucky' you might also be allowed to attend a short group programme of 6 sessions, maybe 12, probably on zoom. If you miss a couple.of appointments because you didn't get the letter, or phone was broken, or you were simply too unwell to get to your appointments, you'll probably lose the offer of the group or guided self help. If you have endured long and complex, multiple trauma, are self harming frequently, and drinking alot and overdosing - you might get offered 12 or 24 sessions of (probably group, maybe online only) DBT - but only if you really beg and show you are very very keen and won't miss any sessions. For most people, there is simply nothing. Maybe a referral to a charity for 4 sessions of counselling.

What planet are you on Harry. I wish wish wish you would realise how privileged you are to indulge yourself in 4 years of therapy, and that you could recognise your privilege. Wouldn't it be great if you could use you power and privilege to actually change the mental health system (in the UK) and advocate for more availability of therapeutic services, and maybe even donate large sums of cash to making therapy more available and accessible to the masses. I don't want to hear anymore about how therapy changed you, opened your eyes etc... Most of us simply.cant afford to go private, and the NHS is at breaking point and can't offer what is needed

[ssd]

Totally agree with you @StinkingCold

[Mummyoflittledragon]

@LocalHobo

I think people are being unfair to Harry, it must be difficult to be cut off financially by your dad before you're even 40

He has inherited from Diana plus around £7 million from the Queen Mother so I'm sure he can manage.
I think Harry believes he has valid opinions to be heard regarding mental health. I'm not sure he is correct.

Think that was ironic.

[DrSbaitso]

He's the poster boy. It isn't any different to any other celebrity lending their face, profile and personal back story to support or promote a cause.

[VladmirsPoutine]

It's so true. It really just pisses me right off!!! Everyone else in the Royal family are qualified in all their endeavours, infact even our entire government are qualified specialists. So why does Harry singularly think the rules don't apply to him. Why does he alone think he should benefit from basically being a Prince. Why can't he do something useful with his power/influence like some of the other Royals and leave mental health alone! I mean as it is mental health is already taken incredibly seriously and is doing ok with the funding it receives without some over-hyped prince coming in and taking over. Why can't he and his wife who is equally useless just disappear into the ether! I mean FFS!

[Ponoka7]

@MichelleScarn
" did he not say when Archie was born that he and Megan had no idea how to look for mh support now he's presumably an expert."

No, he said that they asked for support within the Palace and when they were refused asked if they could access support externally. When again refused, they didn't know were to go next.

@Derbee, Meghan said that she felt ashamed and Harry used the same word, because within the 'stiff upper lip' Stoic royal family it isn't the done thing to talk about feelings and not be coping. A lot of people who have MH issues feel shame. People should be able to be honest.

What did Princess Diana know about AIDS, or the lives of the children in Harlem when she first started her charity work? The point was to remove stigma.

[Staffy1]

Regarding point 2 he is probably addressing Americans, some of whom do seem to see shrinks for years on end. Your point 2 sums up how crap the NHS is and not fit for purpose in a lot of ways.

[VladmirsPoutine]

I wish they'd entirely drop mental health as a cause. Find something bloody useful like contributing to the World Record book for like the amount of paper straws he can fit into a cup of camomile tea without the straws bending.

[RoseRedRoseBlue]

@StinkingCold you have summed up my exact feelings on this entire pantomime. Thank you.

[Theythinkitsalloveritisnow]

@Jellycatspyjamas I was being very sarcastic, I think I may no t have got the hang of the smiley face things :) . But, being serious, he's pampered, clueless and thick. I'm getting seriously fed up of him lecturing people about being kind and getting help. As people have pointed out, there isn't any therapy to get unless you can afford to go private. The best thing he could do for my mental health is to count his blessings and enjoy the sunshine in LA and not inflict any more of his brain dead witterings on me.

[AmyDudley]

Yes I hate the 'go and get therapy it's great' crap.
I waited six months for the only therapy I was offered - a place in group of 15 people where we sat and listened while a facilitator read out a booklet about cbt we had all been given. And copied the bullet points from the book onto a white board in case we only knew how to read from white boards not booklets.
he 15 people had such widely disparate MH needs that no group session was ever going to suit everyone and in fact it helped no one - we all left feeling completely dispirited with no where else to turn as we'd used up our therapy allowance.

I find most of the royal family pretty sickening TBH. I sympathise with how Harry was treated after his mother's death, and I feel sorry for him, but he really has no idea what life is like in the real world.

[Theythinkitsalloveritisnow]

@VladmirsPoutine

I wish they'd entirely drop mental health as a cause. Find something bloody useful like contributing to the World Record book for like the amount of paper straws he can fit into a cup of camomile tea without the straws bending.

That would be less irritating and more entertaining, I agree. Could someone suggest that to him?

[prh47bridge]

In the interests of accuracy, BetterUp is not a charity. It is a business. And neither he nor the business has revealed his salary, so the alleged 6 figure salary is a guess. It may be right but we don't know. He is not advising on mental health. As Chief Impact Officer, he is promoting a wellness app and helping the company to achieve its mission. All very different from what is said in the OP.

[StartupRepair]

This week he is an expert on global equitable distribution of vaccines. Really important cause but possibly with some complexity.

[TILFA]

@RJnomore1

1) he has lived experience and a name that makes people take notice.

Do you?

2) are you arguing he’s wrong that therapy would help?

1) no

2) how would a typical depressed commoner know if they may help?

We can't afford to pay for it and the best wee Camm get (after waiting years) it a point-scoring exercise where you are pressurised into inflating your 'wellness score' to make the therapist look good.

I could write a book on the treatment of mental health disgrace in the UK.

The only thing worse than the 6 year wait to see a psychiatrist was the gaslighting pressure he put on me to withdraw a very serious complaint about a surgeon. He didn't give a flying fuck that the surgical treatment left me paralysed in 1 limb, left with ptsd (was awandake during spinal surgery so knew what went wrong) and suicidal fromm pain and needing carers.

Harry Can go fuck himsrlf, or live with me for A week to see what us peasants have to endure.

[C8H10N4O2]

He isn't being paid for mental health expertise but for PR value and awareness raising. If you work in MH then you should know the value of any big name bringing attention to it - attention brings funding. In particular having sought help as a young man and a soldier is significant if it helps young men see psychological therapy as an option for them.

Lets face it - there is no decent public MH service in the UK. There is an emergency band aid service and CAMHS is a bad joke in most areas. Raising awareness of the importance of MH might improve that.

[Washeduponthebeach]

It’s all very well for him to advocate therapy to people. The trouble is, his own therapy has obviously been utterly crap. He has destroyed his relationship with his whole family. That doesn’t seem like the action of a man who has had good counselling.
He’s a total hypocrite, along with his awful wife.

[Theythinkitsalloveritisnow]

@C8H10N4O2

He isn't being paid for mental health expertise but for PR value and awareness raising. If you work in MH then you should know the value of any big name bringing attention to it - attention brings funding. In particular having sought help as a young man and a soldier is significant if it helps young men see psychological therapy as an option for them.

Lets face it - there is no decent public MH service in the UK. There is an emergency band aid service and CAMHS is a bad joke in most areas. Raising awareness of the importance of MH might improve that.

So many people putting in time and effort to help others for free. God knows he's already got enough cash (unearned) you'd think he could do it without being paid thousands. Noblesse oblige I guess.

[Autumngoldleaf]

Agree tea leaves.

Op he's probably had the most extensive intensive therapy on the planet due to his wealth and the horrific way he lost his mum?

What good can you even make out of that sensless car death and no seat belt?
And his dad cavorting with the mistress that ruined his mums life and marriage??

He was then shoved behind her fucking coffin on TV and made to walk for miles along side wailing strangers.

Even the most cold hearted people must agree its a pretty traumatic unusual and dreadful experience? So it's not like his millions saved his mum, made her death less painful?

[Pixxie7]

It’s a shame he won’t be seeing patients he might actually grow up and realise there people out there with real problems.

[Warmduscher]

@TILFA

[Autumngoldleaf]

Oh goodness, the" family" washed up, that devoured his mother... Forced him to walk behind her coffin like chucking him as bait for the wolves howling because Tony Blair said they must do something?
That family... Wow to be honest I'd say his therapy has worked and he's been able to stand up too and break away from arguably the most rotten fucked up slimy family in the world that happens to be the most powerful!!

[TILFA]

@RosesAndHellebores

TBF if he's helping to take away some of the stigma attached to MH issues, that's probably worth every penny.

A goldfish BTW is probably more use to an emotionally vulnerable young person than our local CAMHS team.

I don't think he is taking away the stigma. He is just highlighting the vast difference between his privilege and our fight for even a GP appointment.

This is outing to those who know, me , but during a very tearful heartwrenching of GP app where I was beggi g for help (suicidal with 3 different well planned put suicide plans) and he said it was 'beyond the scope of his experience' and and ended the appointment with no advice or plan,.

Aye Harry, wish I could get even a referral. Privileged idiot.

[CorianderAndCream]

1. Well he probably doesn't fathom people earning say £20k a year and loving off that.
   
   
2. he's not really an advisor. He's the PR placement. The charity now gets worldwide attention worth many many millions in advertising.

[x2boys]

@Washeduponthebeach

It’s all very well for him to advocate therapy to people. The trouble is, his own therapy has obviously been utterly crap. He has destroyed his relationship with his whole family. That doesn’t seem like the action of a man who has had good counselling.
He’s a total hypocrite, along with his awful wife.

He might not want a relationship with his family, nobody knows what went on apart from them

[C8H10N4O2]

So many people putting in time and effort to help others for free. God knows he's already got enough cash (unearned) you'd think he could do it without being paid thousands. Noblesse oblige I guess

OK where do I sign up to stop the portion of my hefty tax bill which funds the royals? Including the indirect costs?
Harry doesn't cost me anything. He could sit on his arse if he has enough cash and be accused of being lazy.

You might want to direct your ire at the workshy Cambridges who are taxpayer funded (indirectly as well as directly). Harry has been the key name behind more than one major project which he supports on his own dollar, rather as his father started his own projects. His brother could learn from it.