AIBU to think this government is taking the fucking piss?

[AmericanTie]

Low waged workers who have worked throughout the pandemic are taking an absolute hammering via UC cuts, council tax rises, the energy crisis and food shortages. What the fuck are these dickheads playing at? Fannying around with Joe Biden who couldn't give a rat's ass what's going on here (and is senile anyway) and passing laws about dognapping while distribution of essential goods grinds to a fucking halt. What are they even doing in that building while everything turns to shit outside of it?

They are doing nothing. There is no plan. They do not care.

'Mass civil disobedience, strikes and protests.'

I'm afraid that there is why Labour won't win in my view. It's absolute turn off to most of the people I know (not a massive group I'll grant you ) - they want to feed & educate their kids, put a roof over their heads and maybe go on holiday. Small, supposedly manageable dreams. They aren't interested in civil disobedience, they can barely find the time to vote.

Conservatives win because they stick together and they don't care where the votes come from as long as they vote blue. Labour loses because it's too busy judging it's own members let alone the non members who might vote.
And if you discount a vote based on that voter drinks then you've lost sight of what matters - being in power and being able to actually make change.
Without a change to the electoral system (which I don't see happening) Labour needs votes from the centre - it won't get them by
threatening civil disobedience.

We need a strong, well organised independent party to take on the Tories. Labour have too much baggage. It needs to be something else now. Not greens. Future Party. Made up of young, enthusiastic independent MPs in each region who actually grew up and live in that area, who are smart and go getting who want to put things right with better pay etc it’s going to be tough though because Brexit has proved how divided we all are. Whoever runs this country now has a shit show to deal with. Shortages aren’t going away soon.

We’ve needed a 3rd party for years and years now. The only one who has come through in that time was the raciest guy, can’t remember his name, was it Nigel? And look how well he done!! If he wasn’t raciest he would have done so well and everyone would have jumped at the chance of someone new.

I'm disgusted and working through all lock downs and seeing 12 people die of covid in the care home I worked in has resulted in me. Having ptsd and now I'm off sick with it.

@Notonthestairs Until there's a mass pushback, the Tories will keep on taking the piss. It's what they do best.

And a vote for Labour atm is just wishful thinking. People want Labour to represent them, but with the current leader it doesn't seem to know what or who it's standing for.
PRep apparently a topic at the LP conference, but if KS doesn't start kicking Boris's arse and uniting his own party, there won't be any "next Labour government" to push through on electoral reform, so the broken Tory FPTP system will limp on until democracy is completely eroded and as I said upthread, we reach rock bottom. Can anyone remember an effective, committed statement by KS about PRep?

I saw the title and thought whatever this thread is about YANBU. The trouble is there is no decent opposition and very few competent politicians.

It would not be hard to put together a set of policies that would go down well with voters but Kier Starmer can’t seem to manage it. It really depresses me because we can’t see an end to it and it’s only going to get worse because they keep cutting more.

There won't be a mass pushback.

It's easy to think if you are interested in politics that everyone is as interested and engaged as you are. But most people aren't and don't want to be.

So whilst Labour are busy pulling the party in to pieces to serve different ideologies the rest of the country will just put one foot in front of the other, read about how Labour are falling apart and vote Conservative.

Better the devil/greedy charlatan you know.

I didn't say Corbyn is an MP, he still a member of the Labour Party and should have been castigated for the election debacle.

@Dbank Corbyn is still an MP, but isn’t a Labour one because he was suspended from the party.

I mean the dog napping law needed to happen. People are being assaulted for their dogs...

@AmericanTie

Who do you suggest we vote for next time OP? And why?

To be honest mate I suggest we fuck voting over and take to the streets. I really am that pissed offe. They're fucking us royally and no cunt is doing anything about it.

I am serious.

Agree!

@Porridgealert

Is UC being cut though? Wasn't it just an extra amount to help get through the pandemic and was always said to be temporary? So now measures around the pandemic have been removed, UC has been restored to how it was before.

Which wasn’t enough in the first place.

@lovelyupnorth

Some fuckers voted for these clowns.

How bad must the alternative have been for the current shower to get such a majority!? JC with the lowest share of the vote in almost all Of living history. Sad times when what we have is considered the lesser of evils

JC with the lowest share of the vote

Which was incredible given how he did against Theresa May? Then the gloves came off and he was destroyed by the media after that as they realised he was capable of damaging the Tory majority.

I seem to remember that Theresa May had to buy the votes of the DUP after that election!

I was not a Corbyn fan, but honestly if you voted Tory at the last election you only have yourself to blame for this mess.

When you have a shitty opposition this is what you get but this is bad, vey very bad. I've never been worried so much about mine and my lo's future until these corrupted clowns came into power. Is there an alternative? I'm an idiot and guilty for voting for these incompetent corrupted group of people who I'm ashamed to be leaded by but labour is worse in my opinion. Next election I will vote for labour because we have seen very very bad and I'm wondering I might as well vote for worse to get these lunatics out the door.

To be honest this crop of Tories is incredibly incompetent. Unfortunately the bar has been so low since Labour started to put up leaders like Ed Miliband that it meant that all the Donkeys in the Tories rose to the top of the Party. People voted for the best that was available, if this is the best, it tells you a lot about the choices they have.

OP you are right about supply chain shortages and inflation, but UC was a temporarily increase and is not cut but a reversal, as planned. Wage increases are happening and the Labour market is booming, this is the time for the low paid to switch sectors and get better wages, raising welfare makes the structural problem of low pay worse.

@ichundich

I was not a Corbyn fan, but honestly if you voted Tory at the last election you only have yourself to blame for this mess.

Agree.

I voted Labour to vote against Tory.
I liked the Labour manifesto, but I didn’t think Corbyn was an effective leader.

The opposition is shit but quite frankly it’s the Tory govt dangerously fucking up the country for the past 10 years so why anyone against what they do would vote Tory for more of the same I don’t know.

Labour has their issues but I don’t see how they would be worse for the disadvantaged/low paid etc.

@Notonthestairs

There won't be a mass pushback.

It's easy to think if you are interested in politics that everyone is as interested and engaged as you are. But most people aren't and don't want to be.

So whilst Labour are busy pulling the party in to pieces to serve different ideologies the rest of the country will just put one foot in front of the other, read about how Labour are falling apart and vote Conservative.

Better the devil/greedy charlatan you know.

Bingo. I’d say the majority of people have no real interest in politics and just believe whatever the newspaper they read tells them. And given most newspapers have tories behind them it’s no surprise they get the votes.

Politics and how elections work should be something you are taught at a young age so people grow up engaged in politics, vote and understand what they are voting for. But they don’t want people to be educated in that way because then people would realise what a bunch of self-serving wankers they all are.

So basically, people have no interest in educating themselves? I don't believe that, sorry.

Vote for clowns and you get the circus you deserve. Unfortunately, lots of people love a circus and don't see the part they have played when the proverbial hits the fan. They turn on immigrants, unemployed, refugees & asylum seekers to justify their own actions.

@ChurchofLatterDayPaints

So basically, people have no interest in educating themselves? I don't believe that, sorry.

Lots of people have other things on their plate and just don’t have the mental capacity to find educating themselves on politics a priority.

I used to be exactly the same, Roominmyhouse. But with this shitshow I'd say closing your eyes to it is a luxury most people cannot afford.

From the Met police to the BBC to the RF, these institutions are falling apart and failing while paying millions to the undeserving and corrupt. Can't be ignored much longer.

@sst1234

To be honest this crop of Tories is incredibly incompetent. Unfortunately the bar has been so low since Labour started to put up leaders like Ed Miliband that it meant that all the Donkeys in the Tories rose to the top of the Party. People voted for the best that was available, if this is the best, it tells you a lot about the choices they have.

No, all the donkeys rose to the top in the Tory party because of Brexit. The vaguely competent ones were chucked out because they were “remainers”.

Which is quite telling really.